Don't you mean the American traitors that worked for and colluded with them. One would expect the Russians would want her to lose. One doesn't expect or anticipate the kind of swine who would work with a known enemy to get their party's candidate to win an election. We used to put a large number of bullets in people like that, before that is, one party became scum sucking slime.But but but.. it was the Russians that caused her to lose and not her stupid campaign decisions.
Let's say you are right, that she lost because Sanders democrats were too propagandized to listen. What was it they were propagandized by? It wouldn't have by any chance been Sanders message would it? And it wouldn't have been a propaganda message from Trump that won him his votes now would it? It would seem then, that when running a campaign one ought to have a propaganda message that appeals to voters and causes them to stick with you. When I looked at the 2016 presidential race I saw a Trump with a powerful propaganda message that went straight to the issue of voter rage but from a negative direction, appealing to hate and a desire for vengeance and when I looked at Sanders I saw a message of rage against the fact that wealth now owns our political system, and when I looked at Clinton I saw a campaign of stay the course. That it seems to me is the one thing that Sanders and Trump voters didn't want. That you and other Clinton apologists couldn't see this tells me you are ideological in your bias and have a brain defect. You think that what you call intelligence matters. I see a different kind of intelligence, I guess. You can say Sanders wouldn't have won but we sure as fuck know that Clinton didn't. Can you see that has nothing to do with hate. It's a factual statement about the importance of knowing what message is important and what is important to the liberal brain is fairness and equity. Anybody with a shred of analytical objectivity should be able to see there is only one real issue and that's the death of out democracy, I only participate in this war of words with you because I think it's important and that democrats are not in touch with what people are feeling and campaign on ideas that have no real appeal, emotional appeal to a sufficient extent to win national elections. The emotional Zombie Obama didn't help. The guy led with his chin.
I see Bernie is blaming Democrats for failing to pass the Republican Health Care act.
Sad Bernie.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...e-sanders-donald-trump-health-care/index.html
Blame? I think congratulate is a better word.
The centrist approach by definition means meeting opponents' positions halfway. The calculation is that it peals off more center-align folks (eg rinos) than looses loyalists, and it's what kept the democrats afloat in the sea of american degeneracy. In your opinion, should Clinton have met Trump halfway instead of the R establishment?
Those calculations are ignoring the plight of the American people and their desperate need for a revolutionary change in American policy.
In which case... Left, Right, but never Middle... is a growing voting block.
The fact you need to ask...............What is this plight you speak of? Well, other than a weakness for doom, gloom & self pity?
The fact you need to ask...............
There you go with the cold dead logic. Don't you think I can see the truth in what you are saying? As a party whose job it is, in my opinion, to look out for the great majority of Americans, including white men, you should know that telling people they should be happy with what they have when their fear is that they have lost what they had, is an exercise in futility. Maybe you life in an ivory tower and can't feel what millions of ordinary people feel, but I myself am the a very ordinary nobody, and I feel very sad for the suffering of such people. I want to give them hope that we can get our democracy back so their voices will have a chance to be heard in the political system. I don't want to exclude women or blacks or Latinos, gay people or anybody else, but I don't want my political message to be about little else. I am just going to say it. Too many democrats are out to lunch and I can see who is what. You don't get it. You are defending because you see criticism as an attack on a party bias that is reactive rather than constructive. Get over the bias. A party without principle sucks no matter its name. Democrats suck if they alienate non college men. By the way, you're lucky to be alive and here you are defending Clinton. You should be at the beach making sand castles with children, or dancing with fairies under moonbeams.The fact that this so-called plight is defined in such nebulous terms gives me pause, not to mention that it defies reality. Despite our problems our lifestyles are the envy of most of the world. We attract droves of immigrants. It wouldn't be that way if things were nearly as bad as the Chicken Littles would have us believe.
The fact that this so-called plight is defined in such nebulous terms gives me pause, not to mention that it defies reality. Despite our problems our lifestyles are the envy of most of the world. We attract droves of immigrants. It wouldn't be that way if things were nearly as bad as the Chicken Littles would have us believe.
What is this plight you speak of? Well, other than a weakness for doom, gloom & self pity?
You seem to be having trouble with facts. These deaths don't defy reality, they define it. And you demonstrate why Hillary lost because she thinks like you.
Better luck finding someone more human next time.
What part of what you quote isn't true? A weakness for doom, gloom & self pity can easily result in suicide.
The part that true is just what bshole said. He's liberal and intelligent, has it made, and yet he's miserable in ways because he suffers existentially. The point, if it's still lost on you is that our inner truth, the unconscious assumptions that run our lives are how we feel about ourselves. That is our deepest truth and the truth is that we are dissatisfied because we lack the one and only thing the matters, real empathetic self respect. We had our natural self joy in being stolen by being told we were worthless, and nothing the intellect thinks or says can reach down deep enough to change that. In order to change our deepest feelings requires the Hero's journey into the underworld, armed with a mirror in which to see the real enemy and a sword with which to slay it, In more modern terms, a person in group therapy uses his feelings about others in the group as a mirror. What he feels about them is the mirror of what he feels about himself. Expressing that feeling, letting it all hang out there, going with it will take you back to where you first felt that feeling. Then and only then can the intellect analyze the real situation and see that as children we had to buy into the lie that we were worthless in order to survive. You want to project a truth you can't reach because you don't want to get your feet wet. Consider that all those nut case right wing delusional and paranoid fanatics are closer to their feelings than you are and it is that fact in addition to the fact they are crazy, that makes them even more scary. The other is us. Use it as a mirror.What part of what you quote isn't true? A weakness for doom, gloom & self pity can easily result in suicide.
Do you think this is maliciousness or blindness? I hear contempt in your words as if it were intentional. Personally, I see a person driven by a desire to do right by people that created a driving ambition to achieve something good along the way, to become President, the first woman president, to open that door to women, and to do those things she believes in that are good. I think it is easy to see the ambition and to find it difficult to decipher whether is is simply ego driven or driven by noble purpose or some combination. But if I felt that people who do not emphasize can never emphasize, that we are all doomed by some genetic fate or something, I wouldn't bother to post here. In my opinion when a person loses everything that was put into them by way of false ideas, one is stripped of everything that isn't real and that what is left is the one thing that truly exists, the sure realization that there is only love.People are dying from many causes, not just suicide. Chronic stress related diseases are disproportionately on the rise. But they weren't any concern of Hillary's because those people weren't an important demographic in her calculated pandering. Hillary and her minions could and cannot empathize with people, just classes and it cost her.
I subscribed just to like this d@mn post. Holy fallacy Batman.I believe George Bush's popularity is up as well. Who the fuck cares?
You guys keep putting your faith into politicians you like instead of politicians who get things done or have comprehensive plans to address complex issues. Its why we are in the mess that we are in. It could have been much worse, luckily Obama was not only popular but also competent.
People are dying from many causes, not just suicide. Chronic stress related diseases are disproportionately on the rise. But they weren't any concern of Hillary's because those people weren't an important demographic in her calculated pandering. Hillary and her minions could and cannot empathize with people, just classes and it cost her.
Do you think this is maliciousness or blindness? I hear contempt in your words as if it were intentional. Personally, I see a person driven by a desire to do right by people that created a driving ambition to achieve something good along the way, to become President, the first woman president, to open that door to women, and to do those things she believes in that are good. I think it is easy to see the ambition and to find it difficult to decipher whether is is simply ego driven or driven by noble purpose or some combination. But if I felt that people who do not emphasize can never emphasize, that we are all doomed by some genetic fate or something, I wouldn't bother to post here. In my opinion when a person loses everything that was put into them by way of false ideas, one is stripped of everything that isn't real and that what is left is the one thing that truly exists, the sure realization that there is only love.
Isn't that a mental health issue? I believe she addressed that-
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/mental-health/
She addressed a broad range of issue but not everybody paid attention. They were too caught up in the bullshit of Can't trust Hillary! Crooked Hillary! Cheater! Wall St! Clinton Foundation! Emails! & the general dissembling Benghazification of discourse.
You're still falling for it, too.
It's a health issue in that every organism which suffers stress is more liable to illness. Diabetes is not a mental disorder and yes stress is a main cause of problems with glucose metabolism, and people didn't give a crap about Hillary, they were concerned about themselves and their loved ones. What they got is blame like you are doling out now. People have real problems and despair and you are "screw them, Hillary was the real victim". Well that came through loud and clear and the vermin didn't support their betters.
Again, better luck next time.
Healthcare? Oh my-
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/
You still don't get it. We're all victims of propaganda this election, a new synthesis of right wing & Russian methods in the new medium of social media. And it works. Your refusal to truly examine what they convinced you to believe about Clinton is proof of that.
Your basic attitude is based on alternative facts. What? You think this campaign was merely intended to con the Trumpsters? It's a lot more sophisticated than that. They got you, too.
Those calculations are ignoring the plight of the American people and their desperate need for a revolutionary change in American policy.
In which case... Left, Right, but never Middle... is a growing voting block.
Ah, so we're all victims of Russian propaganda and social media. Maybe next time I warn you the democratic message isn't addressing that you'll listen. It wasn't Russian propaganda or social media, you see, that warned me she could very well lose. I looked at the propaganda, how effective it is and said to my self, we're screwed. We're not addressing what matters to people. Perhaps you see Hay as not getting it because you don't. I see nothing wrong with what you say. It's just in my opinion insufficient and fails to address the deeper problem of the liberal brain defect, a lack of appreciation for the fact that morality is emotional and conservatives are concerned about a much bigger bag of moral issues than liberals are. It is the inability to see and appreciate those moral issues as moral issues that caused democrats to offer ivory towers instead of gut appealing moral clarity. It's really hard to demonize people who it's clear as shit are on your side. And the only way to genuinely come across as being on somebody's side is to really be on their side. People are not stepping stones to power.
Healthcare? Oh my-
https://www.hillaryclinton.com/issues/health-care/
You still don't get it. We're all victims of propaganda this election, a new synthesis of right wing & Russian methods in the new medium of social media. And it works. Your refusal to truly examine what they convinced you to believe about Clinton is proof of that.
Your basic attitude is based on alternative facts. What? You think this campaign was merely intended to con the Trumpsters? It's a lot more sophisticated than that. They got you, too.