Bernie's out

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Bitek

Lifer
Aug 2, 2001
10,676
5,237
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Already talked to a few of my GOP friends - they are not fans of Trump and have already stated that they will be voting for Biden. First non-GOP vote of their lives. So that's at least promising in my eyes. To quote one of them directly (and to summarize the other two): "The choice is bigger than policy. "

Biden has a chance to win some of the marginal GOP votes. He just can't afford to lose the far left votes.

Yup, I got family and friends who voted Trump that will vote for Joe (but wanted nothing to do with Bernie.)

I like parts of what Bernie was saying, but other parts were cracked. I don't think it's correct to say Bernie and his platform was universally popular with the party but everyone just voted defensively for Biden.

Bernie's platform had some good, but also some things based magical thinking, incorrect facts and misreads of the American public.

He also put forward things at times and held onto them just be a curmudgeon, but that didn't make it a good idea.
Rather it was unpopular and dumb, and helped him lose the nomination.
 

eelw

Diamond Member
Dec 4, 1999
9,486
4,699
136
So much for unifying behind the presumptive nominee. But yeah the never Biden people are just closet MAGA.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
58,677
13,034
136
So much for unifying behind the presumptive nominee. But yeah the never Biden people are just closet MAGA.
That is absolutely not an accurate statement, most of them think Sanders wasn't far enough left.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
50,879
4,266
126
Looks like you didn't give a fuck about the environment then you fucking hypocrite.

Now feel free to start listing all the excuses why it doesn't matter.

You are being irrational so let's get some facts into play.

Hillary absolutely destroyed Trump in NY and there was zero doubt about that

I could have voted for her or Trump and the statistics show it would not have changed a thing, therefore your whole angst response is moot.

But Hillary isn't much if any better than Biden, the Vote for Someone Else candidate.

She was going to go for 33 percent renewables by 2027, whoop de doo. It seems that you won't let the fatal stand in the way of the needed.

To summarize, I could not have impacted the election in any way, something laughingly easy to foresee, and she wasn't good enough for our survival.

Now rant and have a stroke, but none of what I say can be factually denied. You can scream but I could have voted for an alien or sat home, but I voted in protest of shit candidates, especially regarding the ones obstructing NECESSARY measures.

And now you own global warming as much as anyone else.

I'll vote for Joe, but not for your apology rant.
 
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JEDIYoda

Lifer
Jul 13, 2005
33,982
3,318
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Keep telling yourself that, it'll pay off. Especially now that the weakest Candidate has indeed been selected.
That is the truth! Hard to accept? huh! But in reality Biden does have a chance...in fact I would say more of a chance than Bernie had....why? Because Bernir said he could get out the youth the young people. How did that go? My opinion is the people will get what they vote for! If Trump wind there is no excuses as he bends the american people over and ass rapes them!
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
Keep telling yourself that, it'll pay off. Especially now that the weakest Candidate has indeed been selected.

By popular vote, no less! Maybe we should have picked the guy who got fewer votes in the Primary because he has a better chance to win the General, or something. Makes perfect sense.

At this point, tearing down Biden only makes sense if you want Trump to win, again. I doubt the sincerity of anybody who claims to see it differently.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,141
5,662
126
By popular vote, no less! Maybe we should have picked the guy who got fewer votes in the Primary because he has a better chance to win the General, or something. Makes perfect sense.

At this point, tearing down Biden only makes sense if you want Trump to win, again. I doubt the sincerity of anybody who claims to see it differently.

Trump has already won. You can boost Biden all you want, but people have eyes and ears.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
You are being irrational so let's get some facts into play.

Hillary absolutely destroyed Trump in NY and there was zero doubt about that

I could have voted for her or Trump and the statistics show it would not have changed a thing, therefore your whole angst response is moot.

But Hillary isn't much if any better than Biden, the Vote for Someone Else candidate.

She was going to go for 33 percent renewables by 2027, whoop de doo. It seems that you won't let the fatal stand in the way of the needed.

To summarize, I could not have impacted the election in any way, something laughingly easy to foresee, and she wasn't good enough for our survival.

Now rant and have a stroke, but none of what I say can be factually denied. You can scream but I could have voted for an alien or sat home, but I voted in protest of shit candidates, especially regarding the ones obstructing NECESSARY measures.

And now you own global warming as much as anyone else.

I'll vote for Joe, but not for your apology rant.

Your words, and those of others like you, undoubtedly influenced a lot of voters who could have made a difference. "Crooked Hillary!" was a whole movement, and it worked. Putin is very proud of his boys, rightfully so. It worked so well that millions of Americans are still fucked in the head.
 

Blackjack200

Lifer
May 28, 2007
15,995
1,685
126
Your words, and those of others like you, undoubtedly influenced a lot of voters who could have made a difference. "Crooked Hillary!" was a whole movement, and it worked. Putin is very proud of his boys, rightfully so. It worked so well that millions of Americans are still fucked in the head.

lol, my god you are an absolute imbecile.
 
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ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
32,444
15,256
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Your words, and those of others like you, undoubtedly influenced a lot of voters who could have made a difference. "Crooked Hillary!" was a whole movement, and it worked. Putin is very proud of his boys, rightfully so. It worked so well that millions of Americans are still fucked in the head.

Had he not contributed to the Hillary disinformation campaign, his 2016 vote and his 2020 opinion wouldn’t have mattered. Instead he was out here front and center repeating the bull shit and here he is complaining about the consequences of people’s actions. He’s not even slightly aware of his own hypocrisy. He justified and excused his actions just like everyone else did who voted for trump or didn’t vote for Hillary.
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
50,879
4,266
126
Your words, and those of others like you, undoubtedly influenced a lot of voters who could have made a difference. "Crooked Hillary!" was a whole movement, and it worked. Putin is very proud of his boys, rightfully so. It worked so well that millions of Americans are still fucked in the head.
I wasn't aware I had a national following to influence so many. Hillary being crooked or not was as irrelevant to me as what color pantsuit whe likes best.

Your post is irrelevant as far as I am concerned. I had no influence on the election as I already demonstrated with the facts from the NY results and Hillary's policies on warming were not good, they were damning to the future generations.

To make this easier, Trump wants to take the climate car and drive it into a cliff at the speed of sound. Hillary and Joe are much better, ramming it at only 500mph.

That will be so much better for the passengers. /s
 
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Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
50,879
4,266
126
Had he not contributed to the Hillary disinformation campaign, his 2016 vote and his 2020 opinion wouldn’t have mattered. Instead he was out here front and center repeating the bull shit and here he is complaining about the consequences of people’s actions. He’s not even slightly aware of his own hypocrisy. He justified and excused his actions just like everyone else did who voted for trump or didn’t vote for Hillary.

Yes, I'm a god among men. Thank you /s
 

Hayabusa Rider

Admin Emeritus & Elite Member
Jan 26, 2000
50,879
4,266
126
Hypocrite will suffice.

Ok Trump Fox type, you use that word and I provide proof that nothing I could do would change the outcome of the election and Hillay's global warming are damning.

So you can neither understand simple numbers and are supportive of policies that guarantee warming continues, perhaps irreversibly.

Hypocrite indeed that would be you since you can't even come up with facts disproving what I said.

Let's go easy

2,819,534- Trump voters
4,556,124- Hillary voters

I have one vote, make Hillary NOT win
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
32,444
15,256
136
Ok Trump Fox type, you use that word and I provide proof that nothing I could do would change the outcome of the election and Hillay's global warming are damning.

So you can neither understand simple numbers and are supportive of policies that guarantee warming continues, perhaps irreversibly.

Hypocrite indeed that would be you since you can't even come up with facts disproving what I said.

Let's go easy

2,819,534- Trump voters
4,556,124- Hillary voters

I have one vote, make Hillary NOT win

I’m not sure why vote count matters when your hypocrisy is directly tied to your actions and the opinions you post on this forum.

Perhaps the issue is that you don’t understand the word hypocrite since you used it incorrectly in your reply.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
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I wasn't aware I had a national following to influence so many. Hillary being crooked or not was as irrelevant to me as what color pantsuit whe likes best.

Your post is irrelevant as far as I am concerned. I had no influence on the election as I already demonstrated with the facts from the NY results and Hillary's policies on warming were not good, they were damning to the future generations.

To make this easier, Trump wants to take the climate car and drive it into a cliff at the speed of sound. Hillary and Joe are much better, ramming it at only 500mph.

That will be so much better for the passengers. /s

You might as well have been one of the people chanting "Lock her up!" at a Trump rally. You're doing much the same today. I could appreciate it more in 2016. I mean, you know, she was gonna win anyway, right? So y'all could just disconnect from reality, stew in contrived discontent & self righteousness. So cheated. Blah, blah, blah. Even today, the whole movement refuses to examine squarely the part they played in Trump's election & the disastrous results that will dog libs & progressives alike for the next 30 years. The federal judiciary is now packed to the rafters with right wing ideologues. Packed 'em into the federal civil service, too, I'm sure. It'll be a long time before our international friends start to see us as a reliable partner again, if they ever do.

Just keep tearing down the only person who can beat Trump in November if you really want more of the same, harder & deeper. Just don't try to pretend it's something else.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
67,979
12,402
126
www.anyf.ca
Sucks, but sadly not surprised. I kinda wished I had posted this somewhere for the record but my prediction was pretty much that it would go between Trump and Biden, and that trump wins and gets 4 more years. Looks like at least the first part of that is true.
 
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