Best 120Hz LCD?

[ability]

Further researching 120hz LCD monitors, I've come across the following:

1) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824009222
2) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824236092
3) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16824001311
4) http://www.viewsonic.com/products/desktop-monitors/lcd/x-series/vx2265wm-fuhzion-lcd.htm
5) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824005181&Tpk=LG W2363D

I'm curious of input from you guys, any recommendations for one over the others? Thanks. I'm leaning towards the ASUS one, only because I'm partial to ASUS, but I know they are all good brands.

 

[zerocool84]

The Alienware one seems to be the best but you don't have that listed.

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/pro...etail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-8846

I have the Acer and it has some text sharpness issues but is great.

 

[Sylvanas]

I have the Alienware (see my thread here) and it's been a great monitor, no complaints. Anandtech also reviewed the Asus one and they seem to like it aswell, I don't have any experience with the Asus but I can definitely recommend the Alienware :thumbsup:

 

[ability]

Didn't know of any others, that's why I made this thread! Thanks guys, I'll look into that one too.

 

[Imperceptible]

Some reviews on the recently announced BenQ XL2410T should start to come out soon. That one has 120Hz, 2ms and LED back-lighting. So if it performs well and you don't mind the looks, it could be a good choice. Sadly it still follows the TN/16:9 norm, but that doesn't bother everyone.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1284993011

EDIT: There also seems to be a 24" 120Hz ViewSonic (V3D241wm-LED) which seems to also have LED back-lighting.

http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/uk/products/desktop-monitors/led-lcd/v3d241wmled.htm

 

[MagickMan]

The Alienware one seems to be the best but you don't have that listed.

http://accessories.dell.com/sna/prod...9&sku=320-8846

I have the Acer and it has some text sharpness issues but is great.

$500 for a 23" TN panel? Really?

 

[brxndxn]

Is there a single LED array 1920*1200 (or higher res) monitor available yet? It amazes me how the monitor manufacturers have so much catching up to do compared to hdtvs..

Imo, 1080 is just not enough vertical resolution.

 

[Schadenfroh]

$500 for a 23" TN panel? Really?

I guess they have found a way to charge IPS prices for TN displays... impressive.

 

[TonyB]

Some reviews on the recently announced BenQ XL2410T should start to come out soon. That one has 120Hz, 2ms and LED back-lighting. So if it performs well and you don't mind the looks, it could be a good choice. Sadly it still follows the TN/16:9 norm, but that doesn't bother everyone.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1284993011

EDIT: There also seems to be a 24" 120Hz ViewSonic (V3D241wm-LED) which seems to also have LED back-lighting.

http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/uk/products/desktop-monitors/led-lcd/v3d241wmled.htm

Interesting, do you know of any 27" LED's with 120hz?

 

[exar333]

Is there a single LED array 1920*1200 (or higher res) monitor available yet? It amazes me how the monitor manufacturers have so much catching up to do compared to hdtvs..

Imo, 1080 is just not enough vertical resolution.

Catch-up to what HDTVs? There are only a handful of true-120hz HDTVs (not interpolated frames) out there. Not that different than the current selection of monitors.

Also, LED backlighting (white, not RGB) isn't really better than good traditional CCFL backlighting anyway, really just for power reduction. RGB LED backlights can be found, but they are expensive.

Sounds like you are buying the marketing gimmiks.

 

[Ben90]

I guess they have found a way to charge IPS prices for TN displays... impressive.

$500 for a 23" TN panel? Really?

Yes, and for good reason; IPS panels are not ready to handle a completely ghost free image at 120hz. Some colors such as grey or blue transitions may be okay, but a customer that wants to run 3d is going to be pissed when a brown/brownish transition gets the scene turned into a washed out mess.

While I personally do not care for the 3D capabilities of current monitors, the 3D requirement is keeping a lot of the marketing at bay regarding response times for now at least. Slight ghosting on a monitor is incredibly difficult to perceive until it hits a certain threshold. The same does not hold true for active shutter 3D. Any amount of ghosting will be perceived as a different color than what is supposed to be shown.

I bought a 2233RZ a while back when there were only two 120hz contenders. Growing up on high-end CRTs, I have become very sensitive when it comes to refresh rate. I entered the LCD market with a 75hz panel and had to get rid of it due to the relatively slow refresh rate. During 60hz/180hz side by side tests with my FW900 only one of my friends could tell a difference, so not everyone needs a panel like this. Likewise I can't really tell the difference between an IPS and TN on any test not concerning viewing angles.

With every display technology there are tradeoffs. CRTs suffer from being large and nearly impossible to have a perfect image. Plasmas suffer from pixel pitch and a tough manufacturing process. IPSs suffer from reletively long response times and a lame economy of scale. TNs suffer from viewing angles and being manufactured using cheap-non-panel-parts.

 

[ability]

Some reviews on the recently announced BenQ XL2410T should start to come out soon. That one has 120Hz, 2ms and LED back-lighting. So if it performs well and you don't mind the looks, it could be a good choice. Sadly it still follows the TN/16:9 norm, but that doesn't bother everyone.

http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1284993011

EDIT: There also seems to be a 24" 120Hz ViewSonic (V3D241wm-LED) which seems to also have LED back-lighting.

http://www.viewsoniceurope.com/uk/products/desktop-monitors/led-lcd/v3d241wmled.htm

What a bummer that viewsonic is not available in the United States, at least from my research. I think I'm going to end up going with the ASUS over the Alienware due to the faster response time. I just hope it's bright enough!

 

[Petey!]

Asus and LG are the best out right now. The Alienware is good but so expensive its stupid.

The BenQ is getting awesome feedback, but isnt out here yet.

 

[Dribble]

Got the LG W2363D, if you are the sort of person that really cares about IPS it's not for you. If you just want to make it easier to hit things in fps's it's great. Stand is basic, buttons are rubbish, text readability is only ok, but once I got it set-up and put it on a stand to make it the correct height been very happy.

My ut2004 aim is considerably better then it was with my old laggy 60hz screen. To me that's more important then great viewing angles, colours etc - which my other screen has (MVA panel), not that there's anything really wrong with the colours on the LG anyway tbh.

 

[Docnasty]

I too have the LG 120hz monitor. The touch buttons for OSD are garbage and the bezel gets a lot of fingerprints, but it has definitely improved my performance in 3d shooters.

 

[snuuggles]

Interesting, do you know of any 27" LED's with 120hz?

I'd be very interested in an answer to this. I suspect the answer is "no". If so, any est on when the larger-format 120hz disaplays willl appear?

 

[daRkKon]

ha i just bought a 40" samsung lcd 60hz for 500

 

[toyota]

ha i just bought a 40" samsung lcd 60hz for 500

500 bucks for a 60hz tv doesn't sound like something to be happy about. that kind of money can get you a better 120hz tv especially this time of year.

 

[solofly]

I'll be getting a 3D ready screen this week. Once I get it I'll tell you which one I got...

 

[daRkKon]

500 bucks for a 60hz tv doesn't sound like something to be happy about. that kind of money can get you a better 120hz tv especially this time of year.

true 120hz is not available in my size

only... 60hz + 60hz dual dvi capability, i have done extensive research before i bought however i do not need a 3d tv.. nevertheless, there are only like 3 models that have true 120hz capability and those are viewsonic and another brand but none come higher than 25".

and even so, 1080p 500 bucks, great deal. if i dont want to have it as a monitor i can use it for a tv and 60hz is good for dvds, actually the human eye cant see more than 30fps or something like that. but some can notice a difference between 30 and 60, i can in a video game but not dvd unless its a fast action scene possibly.

 

[toyota]

true 120hz is not available in my size

only... 60hz + 60hz dual dvi capability, i have done extensive research before i bought however i do not need a 3d tv.. nevertheless, there are only like 3 models that have true 120hz capability and those are viewsonic and another brand but none come higher than 25".

and even so, 1080p 500 bucks, great deal. if i dont want to have it as a monitor i can use it for a tv and 60hz is good for dvds, actually the human eye cant see more than 30fps or something like that. but some can notice a difference between 30 and 60, i can in a video game but not dvd unless its a fast action scene possibly.

I am not talking about true 120 either since its a tv and not a monitor. if you bought this for tv viewing then you should still get 120hz because 60hz looks like ass for sports and fast moving scenes. please not the "what the human eye can see debate", lol. anybody can tell the difference between 60hz and 120hz tv side by side because of the way it is handled. and no that really isn't a good price with all the sales going on. my parents bought a 42 inch 120hz tv for 500 bucks in summer 2009.

 

[imaheadcase]

But the alianware, its 23inches. wtf would you pay that for a 23inch monitor when it should be 24inch. 1920 x 1080 is sucky once you used 1920x1200.

 

[Swampthing]

i have the asus. The picture is great. The viewing angles suck balls though. Even just a little bit above or below and the screen fades BADLY. If i even slouch in my chair it gets faded. Almost worth it though the picture really is great.

 

[tomoyo]

It seems bs to me that 120hz can't work on ips/pva/etc. Because all big screen tvs use ips/pva/etc similar tech. None of them use tn-film at all. And they're all 120hz or "240hz" screens. Obviously it can be done. Just lcd makers are fucking cheap.

 

[toyota]

It seems bs to me that 120hz can't work on ips/pva/etc. Because all big screen tvs use ips/pva/etc similar tech. None of them use tn-film at all. And they're all 120hz or "240hz" screens. Obviously it can be done. Just lcd makers are fucking cheap.

how many times does it have to be said that the 120 and 240 used in tvs is NOT the same as the 120 we are talking about for monitors??????