how many times does it have to be said that the 120 and 240 used in tvs is NOT the same as the 120 we are talking about for monitors??????
Apparently a lot. People are generally clueless and misinformed.
how many times does it have to be said that the 120 and 240 used in tvs is NOT the same as the 120 we are talking about for monitors??????
I know this must have been answered somewhere, but I cannot find anyone that can tell me when a 27" or 30" 120hz input monitor will be available. I'm very interested in 120hz refresh, don't care about viewing angles, high resolution (1920x1080 is fine), accurate colors etc. Just want a *large* low-input lag, 120hz monitor for mostly gaming and a little light web browsing/general computer use.
How is it possible this is not available?!?!
Everyone wants to know. Asus and I think Viewsonic made mention of 27", and Asus had one planned to release like forever ago, and last anyone heard from Asus they said it's been pushed back to Q2 2011.
Thanks Petey! Arrrrg. So annoying. Have you heard if any of the 3d tvs will actually take and display a 120hz feed. I'd settle for a 42 inch plasma or something like that if these monitors are just not coming out. I just cannot seem to get a clear answer. Surely the new tvs with hdmi 1.4 *could* take a 120hz input, at least theoretically.
Is it even worth waiting for this stuff? I cannot believe the lack of information *anywhere* on the subject of 120hz input displays.
TVs currently do 3D for movies by doing 24hz each eye over HDMI, as opposed to a monitor doing it @ 60hz each eye.
I think technically every pin should be there to be able to do 120hz over HDMI, but I may be wrong, I'd have to look up 1.4a specs vs Duallink DVi cables. I think there is just no incentive for TV manufacturers to do it since 99% of TV use is for TV and consoles, and none would use the 120hz.
1.4a supports a 120hz feed, which is what a lot of the newer "3D ready" LEDs have.
If the newer 3D tvs supported 120hz feeds, then we'd be able to game on them like the monitors, but they don't.
The HDMI 1.4 source device outputs a 60Hz or less video signal. When 3-D is active the framebuffer in the PS3 doubles in size and two frames are packed into, (timing) at double the transfer rate, the timing window that represents the 60-24 Hz frame rate associated with TV. The HDMI 1.4 TV recognizes this and pulls the two frames out of this "window" and displays the two frames alternately at 120Hz resulting in two 60 HZ (right and left) images for 3-D appearing to occur simultaneously because of persistence in the eye. The double 1080P resolution also supported by HDMI 1.4 is possible because the frame buffers in a HDMI 1.4 device have to be twice as large for 3-D so why not make these buffers available for double res if you are not doing 3-D.
i just re-read the spec on how 1.4 works with frame-packing. i guess it's still not a true 120hz signal. this shit gets so confusing
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then how does Nvidia 3D work with it?DLPs use checkerboard, which again, as confusing as it is, is not 120hz :/
then how does Nvidia 3D work with it?
Everyone wants to know. Asus and I think Viewsonic made mention of 27", and Asus had one planned to release like forever ago, and last anyone heard from Asus they said it's been pushed back to Q2 2011.
Yea its driving me nuts too. Clearly the manufacturers don't believe enough of a market exists but I, for one, have been waiting and waiting for a 120Hz 27" or 30". My dream would probably be a Dell 30" refresh at 2560x1600x120Hz.
It's worth noting though that true 120Hz and even moreso true 240Hz requires a lot of interface bandwidth but that now with Displayport 1.2 in all the 6xxx series of AMD cards that shouldn't be an issue anymore.
Is there a single LED array 1920*1200 (or higher res) monitor available yet? It amazes me how the monitor manufacturers have so much catching up to do compared to hdtvs..
Imo, 1080 is just not enough vertical resolution.