Best AMD-based laptop for gaming?

MotoMan

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I'm thinking Acer AS7552G-6436 - ~$700 with 17.3" screen and 6550M video card.

Anyone know of anything better?
 

ikachu

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I don't have an exact date or initial reviews, but my impression is that some laptops could be available any week now. From the demos I've seen, Llano IGP beats SB IGP pretty handily. If you end up spending on a discrete card then Llano in Dual Graphics mode (crossfire) beats SB + discrete.

In addition Llano should have better battery life and run cooler than current 45nm AMD parts.
 

SolMiester

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6550m is bottom of the barrel, and I dont think Llano will be much better TBH...Integrated GPU dont make for good gaming, neither do notebooks (which a few exceptions) and certainly not Mobile AMD CPU..
 

beginner99

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The best AMD gaming laptop? The one you trade in for an Intel based laptop.

Right now, buying a Laptop with AMD cpu is just plain retarded. Less performance and less battery life + more heat.
 

MotoMan

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The best AMD gaming laptop? The one you trade in for an Intel based laptop.

Right now, buying a Laptop with AMD cpu is just plain retarded. Less performance and less battery life + more heat.

But supporting a convicted criminal recently fined to the tune of billions of dollars because they don't think they have to abide by the law is a good idea?

Right.

And for what it's worth, I'm looking for a new laptop for a friend and asking this advice - I currently have the next-step down Acer laptop from the one I mentioned, which has the 5650 graphics part...and it plays WoW completely maxed out just fine.

So you might want to pull your head out and stop talking smack when you clearly haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about. Hope you at least own stock in Intel...that might explain your toxic fanboyism at least a little...
 
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SolMiester

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But supporting a convicted criminal recently fined to the tune of billions of dollars because they don't think they have to abide by the law is a good idea?

Right.

And for what it's worth, I'm looking for a new laptop for a friend and asking this advice - I currently have the next-step down Acer laptop from the one I mentioned, which has the 5650 graphics part...and it plays WoW completely maxed out just fine.

So you might want to pull your head out and stop talking smack when you clearly haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about. Hope you at least own stock in Intel...that might explain your toxic fanboyism at least a little...

For what it is worth I have no idea what you are talking about there....and as for the last line...
You do realise of course that ONLY an AMD fanboy would try to defend the current pile of poos that is AMD cpus against Intel when comparing perf\watt...
 
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Yeah; my experience with AMD mobile has been lackluster, to say the very least. WOW isn't really designed to be a benchmark-setter compared to say, Crysis or Shogun or what-have-you, so that's a point against you so far.

What I'd suggest, as many others have noted, is wait a few weeks until Llanos comes out (at least for the CPU portion) and go from there. It night not hurt to list what kind of games you and your buddies typically play.
 

MotoMan

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For what it is worth I have no idea what you are talking about there....and as for the last line...
You do realise of course that ONLY an AMD fanboy would try to defend the current pile of poos that is AMD cpus against Intel when comparing perf\watt...


...you have "no idea" about how Intel was recently forced to cough up billions of dollars because they were finally convicted of abusing their monopoly position in the 90s and 00s by blackmailing OEMs into not buying AMD CPUs? That is pretty much unbelievable. There's no way you could be a fan of technology and have missed those headlines.

As for the last line - sure, I'm a fan of AMD - if for no other reason than, as stated, I refuse to support a criminal organization. But I'm not the one being "toxic" - that other guy came in and got his crazy Intel fanboi mouth-foam all over everything.

As for comparing perf/watt - don't care. You can keep your benchmarks...in the real world it doesn't make any difference. My laptop wouldn't be perceptibly any faster with a quad-core Intel CPU than it is with the quad-core AMD CPU that's in it now. I'm not going to try to pretend that any AMD CPU is "Better" than any Intel CPU, because in the current generation Intel has the technical upper hand. That doesn't matter - I'm never giving Intel any money ever again on ethical grounds.
 

MotoMan

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Yeah; my experience with AMD mobile has been lackluster, to say the very least. WOW isn't really designed to be a benchmark-setter compared to say, Crysis or Shogun or what-have-you, so that's a point against you so far.

What I'd suggest, as many others have noted, is wait a few weeks until Llanos comes out (at least for the CPU portion) and go from there. It night not hurt to list what kind of games you and your buddies typically play.


Uh, not playing Crysis or Shogun is a point against me? Sorry for not playing whatever games the cool kids are playing at the moment...

Pretty much WoW and similar stuff. DDO, maybe Rift. That's about it. I don't really know anyone that has any interest in FPSs. I used to be really into RTSs, like the C&C stuff, but WoW pretty much took over all my gaming time and, for better or worse, that's pretty much all I ever play now.
 

Puddle Jumper

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As for comparing perf/watt - don't care. You can keep your benchmarks...in the real world it doesn't make any difference.

Sure it does, my ThinkPad X220 has over 10 hours of battery life with a Intel Core i5 2410m. You'd be lucky to get half that battery life with the triple or Quad core AMD processor you would need to match the i5's performance, assuming it even had a low enough TDP to fit into an ultraportable in the first place.
 

MotoMan

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Sure it does, my ThinkPad X220 has over 10 hours of battery life with a Intel Core i5 2410m. You'd be lucky to get half that battery life with the triple or Quad core AMD processor you would need to match the i5's performance, assuming it even had a low enough TDP to fit into an ultraportable in the first place.


...what? You're comparing a 12.5" netbook with, I presume, Intel integrated graphices to a 17.3" laptop with an ATI 5650? Are you under the impression that such a comparison makes any sense? The reason you tried to change this to an ultraportable discussion is...?

And at any rate, I also couldn't care less about battery life. There are no cases in which I need to use my laptop for any appreciable amount of time where I'm not plugged in. Primary use would be for playing WoW at some hotel room when I'm on the road and therefore don't have access to my desktop. I really can't imagine any period of time when I'd need to use a laptop for more than maybe an hour on battery power - and I sure as hell wouldn't be gaming then anyway.
 

Puddle Jumper

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...what? You're comparing a 12.5" netbook with, I presume, Intel integrated graphices to a 17.3" laptop with an ATI 5650? Are you under the impression that such a comparison makes any sense? The reason you tried to change this to an ultraportable discussion is...?

And at any rate, I also couldn't care less about battery life. There are no cases in which I need to use my laptop for any appreciable amount of time where I'm not plugged in. Primary use would be for playing WoW at some hotel room when I'm on the road and therefore don't have access to my desktop. I really can't imagine any period of time when I'd need to use a laptop for more than maybe an hour on battery power - and I sure as hell wouldn't be gaming then anyway.

I used that as a example because it shows just how much performance /watt does matter. AMD is so far behind they don't offer anything that can match a Sandy Bridge dual core's performance without completely sacrificing battery life.

It's funny that you called the X220 a netbook though, you can get it with a Core i7 2xxx that's faster than your 17.3" Acers Phenom II.
 

MotoMan

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I used that as a example because it shows just how much performance /watt does matter. AMD is so far behind they don't offer anything that can match a Sandy Bridge dual core's performance without completely sacrificing battery life.

It's funny that you called the X220 a netbook though, you can get it with a Core i7 2xxx that's faster than your 17.3" Acers Phenom II.

What's funny is that you think that would make any difference, granted the graphics capability of the thing compared to an ATI/AMD 5650 or 6550.

At any rate, sorry for stepping into what's cleary an Intel fanboi snakepit. Thanks to ikachu, who is the *only* person who actually said anything relevant to the question I asked. As for the rest of you - sorry I opened the wrong door. You kids get back to whatever it is you do here in your secret Intel fanboi club.
 

fffblackmage

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As for comparing perf/watt - don't care. You can keep your benchmarks...in the real world it doesn't make any difference.
It sure does matter. More performance/watt means you can do more work with whatever limited energy is stored in the battery.

At any rate, sorry for stepping into what's cleary an Intel fanboi snakepit. Thanks to ikachu, who is the *only* person who actually said anything relevant to the question I asked. As for the rest of you - sorry I opened the wrong door. You kids get back to whatever it is you do here in your secret Intel fanboi club.
Most of us here are enthusiasts. We only care about who does it better. And right now, Intel does it better.

When AMD decides to turn things around in the mobile market, you'd be accusing most of us here for being AMD fanboys.
 

Puddle Jumper

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What's funny is that you think that would make any difference, granted the graphics capability of the thing compared to an ATI/AMD 5650 or 6550.

At any rate, sorry for stepping into what's cleary an Intel fanboi snakepit. Thanks to ikachu, who is the *only* person who actually said anything relevant to the question I asked. As for the rest of you - sorry I opened the wrong door. You kids get back to whatever it is you do here in your secret Intel fanboi club.

Going with the best option doesn't make someone a fanboy, heck my primary system is AMD+ ATI.
 

wirednuts

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That doesn't matter - I'm never giving Intel any money ever again on ethical grounds.

i understand your reasoning, but i would be shocked if truth be told that amd has never played dirty.

its not like intel killed people... they cheated and broke the rules, and now they have to pay up for it.

news like this sure sways my favor in the way of amd, but i wouldnt rule out intel completely just because of this. i mean, i still use windows and microsoft has been one of the dirtiest players ever....

i agree with above, that i just like the best value i can get. lately that has been intel. even if its a few dollars more, the product really is that much better.
 

beginner99

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But supporting a convicted criminal recently fined to the tune of billions of dollars because they don't think they have to abide by the law is a good idea?

Right.

And for what it's worth, I'm looking for a new laptop for a friend and asking this advice - I currently have the next-step down Acer laptop from the one I mentioned, which has the 5650 graphics part...and it plays WoW completely maxed out just fine.

So you might want to pull your head out and stop talking smack when you clearly haven't got the slightest idea what you're talking about. Hope you at least own stock in Intel...that might explain your toxic fanboyism at least a little...

You are funny.

If he really is you friend you should suggest him an Intel based laptop.
vaguely remembering those 1000$ Athlon days...
 
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