Best budget gaming card?

Modus

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I'm looking for a new budget 3D card to replace my aging GF2MX. The criteria are performance and price. Visual quality (2D) is important, but I spend most of my time at 1024x768x85Hz on a 19", and most cards look fine at that resolution. DirectX support, 7, 8, or 9 doesn't matter to me since games never require the latest features to run. Overclocking is irrelevant since I won't bother doing it, and most cards would achieve similar boosts anyways.

At the moment I can locally find a Radeon 7500 64M DDR for $60, a GF4MX440 64M DDR for $70, and a Radeon 9000 (non Pro) for $90. I'm also looking at the SiS XSabre400, which is supposed to outperform the MX440, but it seems like it's not currently available in enough quantities to bring the price down. Plus SiS doesn't have the driver maturity of ATi or nVidia.

I need recent benchmarks of these cards, and so far I've looked at Anand's Radeon 9000 Pro Review and Tom's Radeon 9000 series review.

Problem is, most reviews just show the Radeon 9000 Pro, not the more common 9000. And I expect the 200 vs 275 memory clock would make a visible difference. That's over 25% less memory bandwidth, so maybe. . . 15-20% less performance? I dunno. If anyone has a few good links, lemme have 'em.

I'm leaning toward the R7500 for a few reasons:

- cheapest
- faster than GF4MX440 under UT2003 (indicating fitness for future game engines) and seemingly equal or better on most other titles
- compared to the R9000, the drivers are more mature, and if you knock 15-20% of the 9000Pro's scores, you're pretty much left with the 7500 in many titles

Or, I could wait for the Xabre 400 and R9000 to become more plentiful and affordable. But I have time off this summer and I'm itching for some 3D action.

Thoughts?

Modus
 

ElFenix

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quick, get an 8500 at newegg before ATi stops makign them!
 

bluemax

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If not the Radeon 8500, the 9000 is still a good bet. DX8.1 compliance is a good thing.
 

Modus

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I'm looking for stuff available locally: the US/Canadian exchange rate coupled with shipping and duty charges really discourages purchases from online US stores. And around here the R8500 can't be found very cheap. Plus I have dealer acounts with local Vancouver wholesalers.
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ElFenix

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oh... canada eh? nm then. unless you have a friend in the US who would smuggle it across
 

CrazySaint

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Of the choices you mentioned, the Radeon 7500 and Radeon 9000 are the two fastest. I'm not sure that the 9000 is sufficiently faster to warrant the addition cost, but it does support DX 8.1 which will become increasingly important. Also, if you plan on playing UT2K3, I would definitely recommend the 9000, as it seems to excel at that game (the 9000 Pro actually beats the 8500 at that one game).
 

dexvx

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Watch out for the SiS XP4

They're the talk of the town claiming 80% of ti4600 performance at prices around the $100 mark.
 

nortexoid

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u mean TRIDENT XP4...not SIS.

anyway, the 8500LE is definitely the best bang for the buck...hurry while supplies last!
 

Modus

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Bluemax,

<<In Canada, THE deal is NCIX. $135. Radeon 8500LE. Buy one now.>>

NCIX now lists it at $154 for the 64M 8500LE, or about $100 US, to compare with the prices I listed in my original post. I dunno, that seems a little high. The 9000 is probably almost as fast as a 64M 8500LE, and cheaper in Canada.

Modus
 

nortexoid

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Originally posted by: spankyOO7
Originally posted by: nortexoid
you want mega low prices??

i just got back from canada... r those prices really low? or were u just messing around? btw... i already did the CA to US conversion (about 1.5CA = 1US).

i would think that 159 CDN for a 128MB 8500 OEM is pretty cheap...and that's not an LE, though it is OEM...

if u can find it cheaper, sheeat....lemme know.

btw, the sapphire brand is quite good too - just picked up their 128MB LE and the 2d is excellent on my Flatron @ 1280x1024, 85hz.
 

CrazySaint

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Originally posted by: tdas2
Originally posted by: CrazySaint
Of the choices you mentioned, the Radeon 7500 and Radeon 9000 are the two fastest. I'm not sure that the 9000 is sufficiently faster to warrant the addition cost, but it does support DX 8.1 which will become increasingly important. Also, if you plan on playing UT2K3, I would definitely recommend the 9000, as it seems to excel at that game (the 9000 Pro actually beats the 8500 at that one game).

Gimme link caus i think your talking ********

Er, well, it looks like I only half right. The 64MB 9000 Pro beats the 128MB 8500 on the Asbestos map, but not the Antalus.
 

spanky

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Originally posted by: nortexoid

i would think that 159 CDN for a 128MB 8500 OEM is pretty cheap...and that's not an LE, though it is OEM...

if u can find it cheaper, sheeat....lemme know.

btw, the sapphire brand is quite good too - just picked up their 128MB LE and the 2d is excellent on my Flatron @ 1280x1024, 85hz.


u're right. i wasn't looking at that one... i was looking at $259 for the retail 8500 :Q
 

bluemax

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Originally posted by: Modus
Bluemax,

<<In Canada, THE deal is NCIX. $135. Radeon 8500LE. Buy one now.>>

NCIX now lists it at $154 for the 64M 8500LE, or about $100 US, to compare with the prices I listed in my original post. I dunno, that seems a little high. The 9000 is probably almost as fast as a 64M 8500LE, and cheaper in Canada.
Modus

That's what NCIX *lists* it as... if you're on the mailing list or go through redflagdeals, you'll get it much cheaper.
 
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