Question Best budget (under $300) X570 mobo for Ryzen 3600(X)? Now that initial prices have subsided.

[VirtualLarry]

Noticed that there are now a number of "budget X570" offerings from the major mfgs. (Meaning, under $200.)

My only real requirements are:
ATX
2x GPU (or more)
1x PCI-E x1, x4 a bonus, for a 2.5GbE-T (x1) or a 10GbE-T card (x4)
1x PCI-E 4.0 x4 NVMe, though 2x and RAID 0/1 support preferred.
4x usable SATA6G (after all of the above), more as bonus.

Integrated Wifi a bonus, but not a requirement.
Integrated 2.5 / 10 GbE-T a bonus too, but not if it costs more than an add-in card costs. (2.5GbE-T RealTek 8125 chipset PCI-E x1 cards are $20 from China.)

The ASRock Phantom Gaming 4 ticks pretty-much all the boxes on my list, and has an integrated M.2 wifi socket. (I can get a Fenvi AX200 kit with bracket / antenna, and heatsink, for ~$31.)

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[Fanatical Meat]

So people here have Ryzen builds that take 10 - 20 seconds longer to boot than Intel systems?

AMD released a BIOS update that should have made a difference to most users: www.tomshardware.com/amp/news/amd-ryzen-new-firmware-microcode-msi-agesa-1004-boot-times

I've never timed my boot times with my different builds, but main system is in my signature, and I've never turned it on or restarted it, and thought that it was slow. Maybe using SATA SSDs are slower? I use NVMe drives in all my PCs (outside of my new Intel laptop), and they are all fast. However, my laptop isn't as fast resuming from things like hibernation.

I’m on 2.2 b *something* version 2.
i assume that has the start up fix but I haven’t noticed a difference.

 

[AnandThenMan]

I have not experienced the reported slow boot times on any X570 board. Anyway the Asus Tuf Gaming is a quality mobo but quite bare bones visually if you care about that kind of thing. It has one LED strip near the SATA connectors that's it. The VRMs stay cool it's a board that "just works" it's my pick for a lower end X570.

I can tell you what mobo to avoid the GigaByte Aorus Elite this board has cold boot issues for many people I'd avoid it completely. Shame because it's a good board otherwise.

 

[Topweasel]

Everyone is comparing Sata to NVME. So the real test bed is Z390 vs x570, inter swapping NVME drives and Sata drives. Is a Sata is drive with no NVME drives on X570 "slow" to boot? Is a Z390 with a NVME drive that much quicker?

I think a lot of people going from one to the other are doing 2+ year old machines doing Sata 3/Msata/or Sata 3 M.2, to NVME and maybe this is just a detection and intialization issue.

 

[VirtualLarry]

Hmm, my Ryzen R5 3600 CPU rig w/Asus B450-F ROG STRIX Gaming ATX board, and 32GB of DDR4-3600, doesn't take TOO long to boot, but yeah, it probably boots a little slower than my Skylake / Kaby Lake rigs did. There is a pause of a few seconds, but that might be a controlled option in the BIOS for the hotkeys. I'm not a fan of "zooming through boot" (aka "Fast Boot") that prevents being able to utilize boot hotkeys. I do have RAID-0 of NVMe, might take a couple extra seconds for the RAID BIOS, etc., to kick in too, not sure. Also lots of USB peripherals, which I suppose have to be scanned individually at boot-time as well. All in all, it's not a problem for me, but I can see how some people (prior Intel users) might get a tiny bit annoyed. (But, remember the double-boot that Core2-era and some later rigs did with Intel chipsets, to set the chipset straps, when overclocking. So, Intel's rigs weren't super-fast booters either, back in the day.)

Also, what's with the pic of that GPU, it has heatsinks on the backside, for the VRAM? Are those custom additions? I suppose that they must be, I've not really seen that before, except on GPUs with a back-plate, and those don't have fins that take up half a PCI-E slot width on the back-side.

 

[UsandThem]

All in all, it's not a problem for me, but I can see how some people (prior Intel users) might get a tiny bit annoyed.

Possibly, I guess. I only used Intel for my builds from 2006 through this year, and when I switched over to my 2700X / X470 build, I really didn't see any difference with boot times. Heck, until I looked after seeing some posts in this thread, I really couldn't tell as I've never thought the boot time was slow. That and I really only reboot my system around once a month (usually after Windows updates), so I guess I don't even see it that often to begin with.

It really comes down to what options / settings are enabled in the BIOS. Things like fast boot being on or off (I choose off so I have time to hit F2 if I need to go into the UEFI), secure boot, legacy options, etc.

 

[tracerbullet]

X570 w/ 3900 and Gen 4 NVME. Spent a few nights trying everything I could read about (BIOS settings, unplugging other drives, etc.) to get it as fast as possible, and the lowest I ever achieved was about 15 seconds per the Windows Task Manager - roughly agrees with a stop watch as well. I'm back to about 18 with everything plugged in, USB keyboard support, and a 1 second delay to allow a shot at getting into the BIOS if needed.

Definitely not the end of the world, very happy w/ the rig overall, but had expected something stellar like single digit seconds. My ~ 7 year old laptop is faster though to be fair it has a lot less to look at or control during the boot up.