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herm0016

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these are things people settle for when the cost of healthcare is thousands, the cost of higher education is tens of thousands if not more... so pointing the finger in the wrong direction is going no where.

wasteful spending by the masses has helped us get where we are. no one needs cable/sat and a plasma or lcd tv. no person needs to have many of the things we think are necessities.
I save thousands per year not having a TV, cooking for myself and riding my bike in nice weather. Every person has ways to save money for the things they need, like food, shelter and clothing.

the cost of healthcare and education is just more incentive to live cheaply!
 

Triumph

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Yes, because everyone in the world has the ability to figure out what is a good used laptop and what is terrible. And yes, it helps a kid in school if they can type up reports or do research.

You're right, it's much better that they impulse buy a laptop on BF rather than research how they spend their money. Isn't your argument that these people are trying to stretch their dollars? Shouldn't researching what you buy be a part of that?
 

zinfamous

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I think Black Friday is going to die out (or be legislated away) because of these incidents (and the eventual resulting lawsuits) and the Internet.

MotionMan

I wouldn't be surprised...

now I wonder if people that agree with this, can also manage to agree that a University needs to dissolve its football program for sheltering a child rape ring?

no, people will never agree with that: Think of the poor athletes!

It's never: Think of the poor retailers! waaaa!
 

shortylickens

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Yeah the whole point of black friday (for the consumer) is to fuckin SAVE money. If you dont know what stuff costs or dont care, why did you wait until that one special day to go shopping?

Also, its not really a sale any more than other so-called sales throughout the year. If you actually watch prices for a while, they slowly rise up to sale day and then when they are marked down x% you are really just getting the same or nearly similar price.
 

Bignate603

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You're right, it's much better that they impulse buy a laptop on BF rather than research how they spend their money. Isn't your argument that these people are trying to stretch their dollars? Shouldn't researching what you buy be a part of that?

And you're assuming that they don't do any research at all. It's fairly easy to compare currently available PCs. The OS is the same, you can easily compare specs and costs (just pull up some other ads, all that info is there), etc.

There's more to it for buying used systems. Is the OS set up correctly? Does it have all its patches? Is something on it broken or nonfunctional? Is it a good deal (can't just look at ads from stores to compare prices)? How do its specs compare to modern things (most comparisons won't compare current hardware with stuff a few years old)?

Sure you can save money but it takes more knowledge and it involves more risk. You can more easily research a new system and if something goes wrong you bring it back to the store. For non-techies it makes it much easier and more likely they'll actually get something that works.
 

BUTCH1

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wasteful spending by the masses has helped us get where we are. no one needs cable/sat and a plasma or lcd tv. no person needs to have many of the things we think are necessities.
I save thousands per year not having a TV, cooking for myself and riding my bike in nice weather. Every person has ways to save money for the things they need, like food, shelter and clothing.

the cost of healthcare and education is just more incentive to live cheaply!

What, no TV in your house? I guess it saves on the cable bill but you can always get OTA for free so what's that point?. I usually cook but once or twice a week if I'm bushed stop and get some take out on the way home.
Back on topic the news had someone waiting in a BF line deep-frying a turkey, awesome!!..
 

chubbyfatazn

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What, no TV in your house? I guess it saves on the cable bill but you can always get OTA for free so what's that point?. I usually cook but once or twice a week if I'm bushed stop and get some take out on the way home.
Back on topic the news had someone waiting in a BF line deep-frying a turkey, awesome!!..

I don't have a TV either. I would rather stream the shows online than pay for a bunch of channels I'm not going to watch. If I like the show enough, I'll support it by buying the box set when it comes out.
 

MegaVovaN

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I looked at the BB BF ad. Nothing I really want. Usually I go hiking on BF anyway but I went hiking on Tuesday and brought home a big-ass blister on the back of my heel. To be more precise, the blister is completely gone and there is nothing but tender, red flesh where the blister used to be. I turned in my sleep last night and inadvertently clawed the spot with the big toe nail of my other foot, ripping a hole through the newly forming skin. I whimpered/winced/screamed like a little girl loud enough to wake my wife. So I probably won't go hiking tomorrow. Maybe go for a drive instead. Anyway the hike was awesome, one of the prettiest trails near Tucson, 3100ft and down over 11.5 mile round trip.

Very nice, but I think you should go to Academy and buy yourself some hiking boots
 

BUTCH1

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I don't have a TV either. I would rather stream the shows online than pay for a bunch of channels I'm not going to watch. If I like the show enough, I'll support it by buying the box set when it comes out.

We got this new thing called "hi-def" and you can get some channels FREE OTA!, watching crappy quality streams on a tiny monitor is no way to live..
 

Fingolfin269

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I don't have a TV either. I would rather stream the shows online than pay for a bunch of channels I'm not going to watch. If I like the show enough, I'll support it by buying the box set when it comes out.

I'm going to guess there's a very good chance you're a single guy.
 

chubbyfatazn

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We got this new thing called "hi-def" and you can get some channels FREE OTA!, watching crappy quality streams on a tiny monitor is no way to live..

Really? I've never heard of it. Care to elaborate?

To the other guy who said I'm single, you're right. I pay my way through college. I don't need to drop what could be a month's worth of food on a TV, especially when I already have a 28" monitor (thank you Black Friday 2009) sitting a few feet in front of me.

And by stream, I mean download
 

0roo0roo

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wasteful spending by the masses has helped us get where we are. no one needs cable/sat and a plasma or lcd tv. no person needs to have many of the things we think are necessities.
I save thousands per year not having a TV, cooking for myself and riding my bike in nice weather. Every person has ways to save money for the things they need, like food, shelter and clothing.

the cost of healthcare and education is just more incentive to live cheaply!

no one needs anything. you think the first americans to buy cars or refrigerators had parents that had the same? you talk as if people always lived so cheaply they got by on almost nothing, no, the fact was for a long time standards of living and income distribution were going up and far more fair in this country, now the cost of healthcare and more importantly the cost of higher education is increasing so fast, they are outstripping inflation by several fold, I forget the exact figure but if anything else had increased at the same rate as education cost it would be truly insane to see. americans are having it worse and worse now and you somehow think that is normal or something to strive for? You also forget things like plasmas cost very little these days, the cost of a radio back in the day when inflation is taken into account would make your eyes bleed, but americans had those.


http://www.freakonomics.com/2011/10/27/cost-of-college-on-the-rise-again/
 
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shortylickens

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Thats not inflation. The economics have changed. Shit like clothing and high end electronics have come DOWN in price, cuz we use chinese slave labor.

But some businessman figured out that with insurance and student loans, they can milk people for CONSIDERABLY more money on certain things than ever before.
 

WhoBeDaPlaya

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We got this new thing called "hi-def" and you can get some channels FREE OTA!, watching crappy quality streams on a tiny monitor is no way to live..
There are also these things called HTPCs, media players and vid game consoles to play content on TVs...
Also, you're a hypocrite if you proclaim yourself to be ultra-frugal (look ma, no TV!) but have dual 27" monitors (or some such), which are essentially TVs with a complex tuner (boxen).
 
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rh71

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We got this new thing called "hi-def" and you can get some channels FREE OTA!, watching crappy quality streams on a tiny monitor is no way to live..

I bought modern-day rabbit ears and I got zilch for a signal. It's too sensitive as far as what you need to consider/do to even get a signal - and I never got one. At a friend's place, theirs kept cutting in & out during a football game which made it really frustrating to watch. Get what you pay for.

We pay for internet, and use torrents to get tv "free". It is obviously not live, but I can [and easily have] lived with that. I don't even watch the tv we do pay for - wife does.
 
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