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BigSmooth

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Aug 18, 2000
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I currently have subscriptions to AutoWeek, Automobile, and C&D. Of those, C&D is my favorite. Autoweek is great for the most current info, but you can get basically the entire magazine online for free if you're willing to wait a fwe days.

Automobile isn't bad but I prefer the layout and the articles of C&D. R&T is also good, but C&D leans more towards vehicles I can actually afford.
 

boyRacer

Lifer
Oct 1, 2001
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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: SuperGroove
I usually hate European Car magazines, including Car and Top Gear. I don't like the way the articles are written, and I don't like their "Comparison tests". They need to quit the wishy washy, "if you like this feature, get this, but the other cars are just as competent" crap, and just stick with their ratings and clearly point out that one car is head and shoulder above all.

And the way they rag on US cars...gah. How can ANY self-respecting car magazine say that the Corvette is a BAD car, like CAR magazine has done? How can any car magazine fail to realize that the Z28's main saving grace is the LS1?

I'll take C&D over every car rag out there.the guys there still know how to have fun, and I love John Phillips.

Paul
-hundreds(maybe even a thousand?) of dollars spent on CAR, Top Gear, Excellence, European Car, Car and Driver, Grassroots Motorsports, Sport Compact Car, Chevy High Performance, Max Power UK, Performance VW.

Thats because they have a totally different philosophy and preference to the type of cars as opposed to the people here. The rest of the world generally thinks that american cars are bloated... no not just domestics... but all cars sold in the US market... they're most likely heavier...and have softer suspension compared to their European counterparts. They're not so obsessed with tire smoking torque either... and even if they were... they would much prefer a TVR over a Viper.

What they think about American cars doesn't mean jack, because the Corvette outperforms 95% of sports cars today, and does so while still being comfortable and practical (in comparison). That's always been the European trait - sporty while still being liveable. The Corvette IS a good car; it doesn't matter what the rest of the cars we buy in America are like.

Well don't you think that their view of american cars in general tend to taint their views of the corvette? the corvette is a nice car... but like i said... they already have a torquey car with a much better interior and livability in the TVR. you make it look like i make the corvette look bad when im merely pointing out a probably reason why europeans usually dont like american cars.
 

NutBucket

Lifer
Aug 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Sport Compact car.. awesome mag

The big grin means you're joking, right? 75% of that magazine is advertisements for rice products.

But they actually have useful tech articles and such. There's an issue with an article outlining the engine swap I have in it, for example. For import tuners (no pun intended) its one of the better ones.
 

Chadder007

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Oct 10, 1999
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I used to like C&D before their rating for some of the cars became to bias.
They rate 3 cars.....all within 1 point of each other most of the time now. Usually knocking down the probable best car for its cup holder style or something by several points.
 

Triumph

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: SuperGroove
I usually hate European Car magazines, including Car and Top Gear. I don't like the way the articles are written, and I don't like their "Comparison tests". They need to quit the wishy washy, "if you like this feature, get this, but the other cars are just as competent" crap, and just stick with their ratings and clearly point out that one car is head and shoulder above all.

And the way they rag on US cars...gah. How can ANY self-respecting car magazine say that the Corvette is a BAD car, like CAR magazine has done? How can any car magazine fail to realize that the Z28's main saving grace is the LS1?

I'll take C&D over every car rag out there.the guys there still know how to have fun, and I love John Phillips.

Paul
-hundreds(maybe even a thousand?) of dollars spent on CAR, Top Gear, Excellence, European Car, Car and Driver, Grassroots Motorsports, Sport Compact Car, Chevy High Performance, Max Power UK, Performance VW.

Thats because they have a totally different philosophy and preference to the type of cars as opposed to the people here. The rest of the world generally thinks that american cars are bloated... no not just domestics... but all cars sold in the US market... they're most likely heavier...and have softer suspension compared to their European counterparts. They're not so obsessed with tire smoking torque either... and even if they were... they would much prefer a TVR over a Viper.

What they think about American cars doesn't mean jack, because the Corvette outperforms 95% of sports cars today, and does so while still being comfortable and practical (in comparison). That's always been the European trait - sporty while still being liveable. The Corvette IS a good car; it doesn't matter what the rest of the cars we buy in America are like.

Well don't you think that their view of american cars in general tend to taint their views of the corvette? the corvette is a nice car... but like i said... they already have a torquey car with a much better interior and livability in the TVR. you make it look like i make the corvette look bad when im merely pointing out a probably reason why europeans usually dont like american cars.

I'm not bashing you, I'm bashing them. It is completely unreasonable to judge the Corvette based on what other American cars are like. One has nothing to do with the other. It's like saying, "Well I drove the Corvette, and it isn't any good because it came from the same company that brought us the Le Mans and Cavalier."

Those euro rags can stuff it, if they're going to be snobby like that. No logical person can deny the performance of a C5.
 

BigSmooth

Lifer
Aug 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Chadder007
I used to like C&D before their rating for some of the cars became to bias.
They rate 3 cars.....all within 1 point of each other most of the time now. Usually knocking down the probable best car for its cup holder style or something by several points.
You know, that annoyed me for a while too. But then I thought, isn't that what it has always come down to? Just because we might not have seen the points before, the personal favorites of the writers/editors have always been the cars that win the tests. It wouldn't be interesting if the cars were rated solely on measurable data.
 

Mingon

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Apr 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: bR
Originally posted by: SuperGroove
I usually hate European Car magazines, including Car and Top Gear. I don't like the way the articles are written, and I don't like their "Comparison tests". They need to quit the wishy washy, "if you like this feature, get this, but the other cars are just as competent" crap, and just stick with their ratings and clearly point out that one car is head and shoulder above all.

And the way they rag on US cars...gah. How can ANY self-respecting car magazine say that the Corvette is a BAD car, like CAR magazine has done? How can any car magazine fail to realize that the Z28's main saving grace is the LS1?

I'll take C&D over every car rag out there.the guys there still know how to have fun, and I love John Phillips.

Paul
-hundreds(maybe even a thousand?) of dollars spent on CAR, Top Gear, Excellence, European Car, Car and Driver, Grassroots Motorsports, Sport Compact Car, Chevy High Performance, Max Power UK, Performance VW.

Thats because they have a totally different philosophy and preference to the type of cars as opposed to the people here. The rest of the world generally thinks that american cars are bloated... no not just domestics... but all cars sold in the US market... they're most likely heavier...and have softer suspension compared to their European counterparts. They're not so obsessed with tire smoking torque either... and even if they were... they would much prefer a TVR over a Viper.

What they think about American cars doesn't mean jack, because the Corvette outperforms 95% of sports cars today, and does so while still being comfortable and practical (in comparison). That's always been the European trait - sporty while still being liveable. The Corvette IS a good car; it doesn't matter what the rest of the cars we buy in America are like.

Well don't you think that their view of american cars in general tend to taint their views of the corvette? the corvette is a nice car... but like i said... they already have a torquey car with a much better interior and livability in the TVR. you make it look like i make the corvette look bad when im merely pointing out a probably reason why europeans usually dont like american cars.

I'm not bashing you, I'm bashing them. It is completely unreasonable to judge the Corvette based on what other American cars are like. One has nothing to do with the other. It's like saying, "Well I drove the Corvette, and it isn't any good because it came from the same company that brought us the Le Mans and Cavalier."

Those euro rags can stuff it, if they're going to be snobby like that. No logical person can deny the performance of a C5.

Ooh someone hit a nerve, its not snob value at all, european cars in general have better suspension setups, performance just aint everything. Personally I just dont like its looks, but to say their opinion doesnt mean jack is just being insular. Given a choice between a TVR and a Corvette though is difficult as good as a tvr is (and a corvette cant match its straight line speed) a corvette would likely last 10x as long making it a better buying proposition.
 

m2kewl

Diamond Member
Oct 7, 2001
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i visit B&N usually on a weekend and read them all. good hour or two spent.
 

Achtung

Senior member
Jul 31, 2001
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USA: Road and Track
UK: evo

I used to get Motor Trend, but can't stand it now. Car and Driver has always sucked, IMO, with the whole "if its Toyota or BMW it wins hands down" slant.
 

JYDog

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Feb 17, 2003
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I like the brit mags like EVO and Car just because it's a larger print format than the US mags. The best car magazine I've seen is one printed in ITALY, gigantic prints, larger than CAR, and no product catalogs of mufflers etc....
 

CraigRT

Lifer
Jun 16, 2000
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Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: CraigRT
Sport Compact car.. awesome mag

The big grin means you're joking, right? 75% of that magazine is advertisements for rice products.

no, i really do like the mag
yeah a lot of ads, but they have the cars i am interested in sometimes... not just like your average family sedans, and exotics like car and driver.. but WRX's, turbo projects, that kind of cool stuff.
I do realize that C&D does do that sometimes, but its just not normally filling my interest points that's all.
 

BigSmooth

Lifer
Aug 18, 2000
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Originally posted by: Mingon
Given a choice between a TVR and a Corvette though is difficult as good as a tvr is (and a corvette cant match its straight line speed)
Depends on which TVR you're talking about. A new 'Vette Z06 will definitely outrun some (like the Chimaera) and it would give even fast TVRs like the Cerbera 4.5 a run for their money.

I really wish TVR would sell at least a few cars over on this side of the pond. Saw a few in London when I was over there.
 

Atlechnik

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Aug 23, 2003
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I currenty subscribe to Automobile Magazine. Its pretty good in terms of pictures and news on the new cars comming out, reviews. The articles are well written. with some good deals you can find it for $5 usd for 12 issues.
 

KokomoGST

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Nov 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: slikmunks
for me i'd have to go w/ grassroots motorsports... but then that's for hands on information for racing/tracking applications


Yup... I'd follow that with Turbo with that followed by SportCompactCar for US publications. If you can read Japanese, there are good mags to be found there too. Even though SCC doesn't have too much real content sometimes, it sometimes is a very good read.

I'm a serial modifier so I like Options just for the pretty parts in it.
 

Demon-Xanth

Lifer
Feb 15, 2000
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I perfer Car and Driver. They seem to be the best at leaving thier bias at the door, and aren't afraid to critisize a car that needs it.
 

pcmodem

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Feb 6, 2001
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Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
OK, so I enjoy all the small tips and tricks as well as the occasional car reviews I get from all the YACTs on here...


What's a YACT?



Thanks,
PCM
 

NutBucket

Lifer
Aug 30, 2000
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Originally posted by: pcmodem
Originally posted by: RaynorWolfcastle
OK, so I enjoy all the small tips and tricks as well as the occasional car reviews I get from all the YACTs on here...


What's a YACT?



Thanks,
PCM

Yet Another Car Thread....
 

Mingon

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Apr 2, 2000
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Originally posted by: BigSmooth
Originally posted by: Mingon
Given a choice between a TVR and a Corvette though is difficult as good as a tvr is (and a corvette cant match its straight line speed)
Depends on which TVR you're talking about. A new 'Vette Z06 will definitely outrun some (like the Chimaera) and it would give even fast TVRs like the Cerbera 4.5 a run for their money.

I really wish TVR would sell at least a few cars over on this side of the pond. Saw a few in London when I was over there.

I doubt it would get near the new zagaris (sp) 4litre straight six, supercharged for 500bhp in a car weighing 1 tonne!
 
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