Best Debut Album of all time

[nakedfrog]

Tenacious D

 

[Deeko]

*shrug* I can think of hundreds better than them. But I don't listen to that genre.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Iron Woode

Originally posted by: GT578
Oasis's Definitely Maybe has Pearl Jam beat.....Ten is a great debut album but saying that Appetite for Destruction has only two good songs??...please....might as well say Ten only has Alive and Evenflow as the only good songs on the album.

There are no good songs by Pearl Jam.

GnR AFD pwn Pearl Jam any day.

Oasis sucks the big one as well. (beatles wannabes)

How do you call DM a Beatle Wannabe album? You never listened to it, have you? Yes, Oasis does suck the big one now (they suck the really big one now). That said, Oasis' first two albums were phenominal and no one rips off musicains better than Noel Gallagher (sp?).

Nirvana's first relase: Bleach! Not Nevermind. Aaaaaa, it's such a pet peeve of mine.

 

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Pretty Hate Machine.

Winnar!

(although the single came out before the album)

 

[thomsbrain]

Originally posted by: BannedTroll

Originally posted by: thomsbrain

Originally posted by: Actaeon
Green Day's Dookie was pretty good.

are you fvcking retarded? that was like their 3rd or 4th album.

my vote goes to Boston or Pearl Jam's Ten. Although I think for sustained quality from song 1 to the last song, Pearl Jam's Ten will beat any album anyone has mentioned. Yeah, so Appetite For Destruction had two really KILLER songs but the rest was filler at best and utter crap at worst.

Smashing Pumpkin's Gish is close, though. It looks worse in comparison because their later stuff was even better, whereas most of the bands in this thread never matched their first albums.

Whooaah...now I have to ask if you are fvcking retarded. The only song that may even be mediocre on Appetite is Anything Goes.

i take it back, it had three good songs. but i have owned this album and was so dissappointed at its lack of value that i sold it within a week. just because they had a cool sound doesn't mean all the songs were quality. the rest of the album was bland, boring, and completely forgettable. that's what happens when you have a group of talented guys that are completely sh!tfaced on a wide variety of substances. they waste so much time and energy on the drugs and booze that they don't have very much time left over to be brilliant.

i'm sorry, but GNR have maybe 5-6 good songs in their entire catalog. granted, they are really really good songs, absolutely top notch. but consistency was not their strong suit. and i think "civil war" counts as minus one good song. they would be perfect candidates for a greatest hits album, let's put it that way.

 

[toekramp]

Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Weezer - the blue album

 

[CVSiN]

Metallica.. KILL THEM FVCKING ALL!

 

[Kev]

ugh, Dookie and Nevermind are NOT debuts dammit!!

how about Offspring - Smash. I still listen to that

 

[Kev]

for something a little more recent...

The Killers - Hot Fuss. Just released this year and already one of my favorites

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: troytime

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Pretty Hate Machine.

Winnar!

(although the single came out before the album)

Wrong. There's actually a different version of Pretty Hate Machine that Trent Reznor recorded pretty much by himself. Same song line up and everything, but every song sounds completley different then the Pretty Hate Machine album you probably know of. This came out before any singles on the TVT label.

 

[Gibson486]

Originally posted by: Kev
ugh, Dookie and Nevermind are NOT debuts dammit!!

how about Offspring - Smash. I still listen to that

you just owned yourself.....smash was not offsrpring's debut album.....

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: HomeBrewerDude

Originally posted by: boggsie
The BEST is too hard to choose, but I know the one at the other end of this argument.

Nirvana's - Nevermind

bingo

BLEACH you tools, BLEACH!!

Thank You!!!

 

[Pepsi90919]

Originally posted by: Kev
ugh, Dookie and Nevermind are NOT debuts dammit!!

how about Offspring - Smash. I still listen to that

THAT's not even a frigging debut!

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: troytime

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Pretty Hate Machine.

Winnar!

(although the single came out before the album)

Wrong. There's actually a different version of Pretty Hate Machine that Trent Reznor recorded pretty much by himself. Same song line up and everything, but every song sounds completley different then the Pretty Hate Machine album you probably know of. This came out before any singles on the TVT label.

If your going to use that criteria, EVERY band had releases before their "major label debut". I believe that is what the OP meant - Major Label Debut. About the only exception would be when new bands form out of old bands that already had a major lable debut - ie Pearl Jam's Ten was preceded by "Apple".

 

[Hankerton]

Originally posted by: fs5
lauren hill's first solo album

That's her only solo album besides unplugged (but that doesn't count)

 

[gsellis]

Originally posted by: glen
Boston: Boston 1976 11th best selling album of all time, and highest début album for anyone.
16 million copies have been sold in the USA alone.

:thumbsup:

edit - friend blew out 2 sets of 200w speakers on this album. But then again, he used to crank it and get in the canoe to go fishing on their lake while listening.

 

[jonnyGURU]

Originally posted by: NL5



If your going to use that criteria, EVERY band had releases before their "major label debut". I believe that is what the OP meant - Major Label Debut. About the only exception would be when new bands form out of old bands that already had a major lable debut - ie Pearl Jam's Ten was preceded by "Apple".

I'm not using that criteria for the very reason that you stated, but it was stated that the single came out before the album and you know what, that's true for about 99% of the groups out there. It's just a dumb thing to say. But either way, pre major label and post major label, both NIN debut albums were still Pretty Hate Machine. It's not like the album that came out before Pretty Hate Machine was a different album. It wasn't. It was just the same album recorded at a different time.

 

[bGIveNs33]

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: troytime

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Pretty Hate Machine.

Winnar!

(although the single came out before the album)

Wrong. There's actually a different version of Pretty Hate Machine that Trent Reznor recorded pretty much by himself. Same song line up and everything, but every song sounds completley different then the Pretty Hate Machine album you probably know of. This came out before any singles on the TVT label.

If your going to use that criteria, EVERY band had releases before their "major label debut". I believe that is what the OP meant - Major Label Debut. About the only exception would be when new bands form out of old bands that already had a major lable debut - ie Pearl Jam's Ten was preceded by "Apple".

"Apple" was Mother Love Bone..... NOT Pearl Jam. Only Gossard and Ament were a part of that band... no vedder, mccready or irons. Actually, to be technical about Pearl Jam... Vs. was the first album that Eddie was a part of the writing process on every song... not Ten, alot of it was already written when he auditioned.

 

[NL5]

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: troytime

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Pretty Hate Machine.

Winnar!

(although the single came out before the album)

Wrong. There's actually a different version of Pretty Hate Machine that Trent Reznor recorded pretty much by himself. Same song line up and everything, but every song sounds completley different then the Pretty Hate Machine album you probably know of. This came out before any singles on the TVT label.

If your going to use that criteria, EVERY band had releases before their "major label debut". I believe that is what the OP meant - Major Label Debut. About the only exception would be when new bands form out of old bands that already had a major lable debut - ie Pearl Jam's Ten was preceded by "Apple".

"Apple" was Mother Love Bone..... NOT Pearl Jam. Only Gossard and Ament were a part of that band... no vedder, mccready or irons. Actually, to be technical about Pearl Jam... Vs. was the first album that Eddie was a part of the writing process on every song... not Ten, alot of it was already written when he auditioned.

If you read my post, it says the exception is when a new band forms out of an old band. MLB had a major lablel debut, then two members formed PJ. That is why PJ has no releases before Ten.

BTW - Ten was written by gossard and ament with eddie doing the lyrics. So, they are still more or less MLB w/o Andy. PJ has had like eight drummers now - the drummer is not really part of PJ.

 

[RedRooster]

August and Everything After - Counting Crows

 

[PanzerIV]

I am not going to pinpoint just one of all times because each genre has several contenders but two that come to mind are Hendrix and Van Halen. I could listen to both for ages.

 

[bGIveNs33]

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: bGIveNs33

Originally posted by: NL5

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: troytime

Originally posted by: n0cmonkey
Pretty Hate Machine.

Winnar!

(although the single came out before the album)

Wrong. There's actually a different version of Pretty Hate Machine that Trent Reznor recorded pretty much by himself. Same song line up and everything, but every song sounds completley different then the Pretty Hate Machine album you probably know of. This came out before any singles on the TVT label.

If your going to use that criteria, EVERY band had releases before their "major label debut". I believe that is what the OP meant - Major Label Debut. About the only exception would be when new bands form out of old bands that already had a major lable debut - ie Pearl Jam's Ten was preceded by "Apple".

"Apple" was Mother Love Bone..... NOT Pearl Jam. Only Gossard and Ament were a part of that band... no vedder, mccready or irons. Actually, to be technical about Pearl Jam... Vs. was the first album that Eddie was a part of the writing process on every song... not Ten, alot of it was already written when he auditioned.

If you read my post, it says the exception is when a new band forms out of an old band. MLB had a major lablel debut, then two members formed PJ. That is why PJ has no releases before Ten.

BTW - Ten was written by gossard and ament with eddie doing the lyrics. So, they are still more or less MLB w/o Andy. PJ has had like eight drummers now - the drummer is not really part of PJ.

, sorry, completely misread that

 

[aplefka]

Why argue about being right? Good music is still good music.

 

Originally posted by: jonnyGURU

Originally posted by: NL5



If your going to use that criteria, EVERY band had releases before their "major label debut". I believe that is what the OP meant - Major Label Debut. About the only exception would be when new bands form out of old bands that already had a major lable debut - ie Pearl Jam's Ten was preceded by "Apple".

I'm not using that criteria for the very reason that you stated, but it was stated that the single came out before the album and you know what, that's true for about 99% of the groups out there. It's just a dumb thing to say. But either way, pre major label and post major label, both NIN debut albums were still Pretty Hate Machine. It's not like the album that came out before Pretty Hate Machine was a different album. It wasn't. It was just the same album recorded at a different time.

i know about the pre-release pretty hate machine....but it was more of a demo
it never really made production

and the "down in it" single came out before pretty hate machine

 

[pmoa]

weezer - blue album