That is one of the most ill-informed things I have heard in a long time.Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
First off, YES was voted best new group of 1969, and their debut album was also rated over Led Zep's debut. No big surprise. Zep couldn't shake the Yardbirds-wannabe tag, esp. with a wannabe like Page on guitar (and he still wishes he were as good as Jeff Beck ... never happening).
As for Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell, I don't know if it's fair to credit him with that or not. Steinman wrote a lot of the lyrics, and Todd Rundgren (with some help from his band at the time, Utopia) wrote and performed most of the music, as well as all male background vocals.
P.S. - As for best debut, I'll have to give the nod to Cream. I'd have to mention Todd's album "Something/Anything" as well ... technically not his first album, but it was his first solo album, and he did everything himself save a few studio musicians who joined in on a couple tracks.
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
That is one of the most ill-informed things I have heard in a long time.Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
First off, YES was voted best new group of 1969, and their debut album was also rated over Led Zep's debut. No big surprise. Zep couldn't shake the Yardbirds-wannabe tag, esp. with a wannabe like Page on guitar (and he still wishes he were as good as Jeff Beck ... never happening).
As for Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell, I don't know if it's fair to credit him with that or not. Steinman wrote a lot of the lyrics, and Todd Rundgren (with some help from his band at the time, Utopia) wrote and performed most of the music, as well as all male background vocals.
P.S. - As for best debut, I'll have to give the nod to Cream. I'd have to mention Todd's album "Something/Anything" as well ... technically not his first album, but it was his first solo album, and he did everything himself save a few studio musicians who joined in on a couple tracks.
History lesson for the noobs:
Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were the last 2 guitarists for the Yardbirds. The band broke up for various reasons and Jimmy Page wanted to put another band together with Jeff Beck and called it: The New Yardbirds. He checked out new singers and found Robert Plant. He checked out bass players and found a studio musician named John Paul Jones. And finally found Jon Bonham for a drummer. This band name was considered a bad idea by some and, including Entwistle, said it would go over like a lead zepplin. Intrigued by that name and changing the spelling so Americans wouldn't pronounce it leed zepplin; Led Zepplin was born. What is not widely known is that Jeff beck contributed to the first LZ album.
Jeff Beck is better than Page. This I agree with, but calling Page a Jeff Beck wannabe is stupid. As for the Yardbirds wannabe tag, I think I have explained that one.
History lesson is over now.
LOLOriginally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
That is one of the most ill-informed things I have heard in a long time.Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
First off, YES was voted best new group of 1969, and their debut album was also rated over Led Zep's debut. No big surprise. Zep couldn't shake the Yardbirds-wannabe tag, esp. with a wannabe like Page on guitar (and he still wishes he were as good as Jeff Beck ... never happening).
As for Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell, I don't know if it's fair to credit him with that or not. Steinman wrote a lot of the lyrics, and Todd Rundgren (with some help from his band at the time, Utopia) wrote and performed most of the music, as well as all male background vocals.
P.S. - As for best debut, I'll have to give the nod to Cream. I'd have to mention Todd's album "Something/Anything" as well ... technically not his first album, but it was his first solo album, and he did everything himself save a few studio musicians who joined in on a couple tracks.
History lesson for the noobs:
Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were the last 2 guitarists for the Yardbirds. The band broke up for various reasons and Jimmy Page wanted to put another band together with Jeff Beck and called it: The New Yardbirds. He checked out new singers and found Robert Plant. He checked out bass players and found a studio musician named John Paul Jones. And finally found Jon Bonham for a drummer. This band name was considered a bad idea by some and, including Entwistle, said it would go over like a lead zepplin. Intrigued by that name and changing the spelling so Americans wouldn't pronounce it leed zepplin; Led Zepplin was born. What is not widely known is that Jeff beck contributed to the first LZ album.
Jeff Beck is better than Page. This I agree with, but calling Page a Jeff Beck wannabe is stupid. As for the Yardbirds wannabe tag, I think I have explained that one.
History lesson is over now.
Thats about as funny as John Fogerty being sued because his songs sounded like CCR.....DUH!
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
That is one of the most ill-informed things I have heard in a long time.Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
First off, YES was voted best new group of 1969, and their debut album was also rated over Led Zep's debut. No big surprise. Zep couldn't shake the Yardbirds-wannabe tag, esp. with a wannabe like Page on guitar (and he still wishes he were as good as Jeff Beck ... never happening).
As for Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell, I don't know if it's fair to credit him with that or not. Steinman wrote a lot of the lyrics, and Todd Rundgren (with some help from his band at the time, Utopia) wrote and performed most of the music, as well as all male background vocals.
P.S. - As for best debut, I'll have to give the nod to Cream. I'd have to mention Todd's album "Something/Anything" as well ... technically not his first album, but it was his first solo album, and he did everything himself save a few studio musicians who joined in on a couple tracks.
History lesson for the noobs:
Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were the last 2 guitarists for the Yardbirds. The band broke up for various reasons and Jimmy Page wanted to put another band together with Jeff Beck and called it: The New Yardbirds. He checked out new singers and found Robert Plant. He checked out bass players and found a studio musician named John Paul Jones. And finally found Jon Bonham for a drummer. This band name was considered a bad idea by some and, including Entwistle, said it would go over like a lead zepplin. Intrigued by that name and changing the spelling so Americans wouldn't pronounce it leed zepplin; Led Zepplin was born. What is not widely known is that Jeff beck contributed to the first LZ album.
Jeff Beck is better than Page. This I agree with, but calling Page a Jeff Beck wannabe is stupid. As for the Yardbirds wannabe tag, I think I have explained that one.
History lesson is over now.
Originally posted by: yellowfiero
1. The Doors - The Doors
2. Cream - Fresh Cream
3. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin I
4. Crosby Stills and Nash - Crosby Stills and Nash
5. Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
6. Blind Faith - Blind Faith
7. The Byrds - Mr. Tamborine man
Yeah if you like one song played ten different ways.Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon
Originally posted by: glen
Boston: Boston 1976 11th best selling album of all time, and highest début album for anyone.
16 million copies have been sold in the USA alone.
Oh my god, it took this long for someone to mention, without a doubt, the BEST debut album of all time (and one of the best albums of all time)???
Originally posted by: RedRooster
August and Everything After - Counting Crows
Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Some more that I like:
Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun
Modest Mouse - This is a Long Drive for Someone With Nothing to Think About
Nick Drake - Pink Moon
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
There are no good songs by Pearl Jam.
Originally posted by: psiu
Pearl Jam Ten
Originally posted by: aplefka
Originally posted by: wfbberzerker
radiohead ok computer
Are you a fvcking idiot?