Best Debut Album of all time

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Lifer
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Jeez, some of you need to look up the definition of "debut" and/or some of these bands' discographies.

Weezer - Blue Album
 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
First off, YES was voted best new group of 1969, and their debut album was also rated over Led Zep's debut. No big surprise. Zep couldn't shake the Yardbirds-wannabe tag, esp. with a wannabe like Page on guitar (and he still wishes he were as good as Jeff Beck ... never happening).

As for Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell, I don't know if it's fair to credit him with that or not. Steinman wrote a lot of the lyrics, and Todd Rundgren (with some help from his band at the time, Utopia) wrote and performed most of the music, as well as all male background vocals.

P.S. - As for best debut, I'll have to give the nod to Cream. I'd have to mention Todd's album "Something/Anything" as well ... technically not his first album, but it was his first solo album, and he did everything himself save a few studio musicians who joined in on a couple tracks.
That is one of the most ill-informed things I have heard in a long time.

History lesson for the noobs:

Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were the last 2 guitarists for the Yardbirds. The band broke up for various reasons and Jimmy Page wanted to put another band together with Jeff Beck and called it: The New Yardbirds. He checked out new singers and found Robert Plant. He checked out bass players and found a studio musician named John Paul Jones. And finally found Jon Bonham for a drummer. This band name was considered a bad idea by some and, including Entwistle, said it would go over like a lead zepplin. Intrigued by that name and changing the spelling so Americans wouldn't pronounce it leed zepplin; Led Zepplin was born. What is not widely known is that Jeff beck contributed to the first LZ album.

Jeff Beck is better than Page. This I agree with, but calling Page a Jeff Beck wannabe is stupid. As for the Yardbirds wannabe tag, I think I have explained that one.

History lesson is over now.
 

NL5

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
First off, YES was voted best new group of 1969, and their debut album was also rated over Led Zep's debut. No big surprise. Zep couldn't shake the Yardbirds-wannabe tag, esp. with a wannabe like Page on guitar (and he still wishes he were as good as Jeff Beck ... never happening).

As for Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell, I don't know if it's fair to credit him with that or not. Steinman wrote a lot of the lyrics, and Todd Rundgren (with some help from his band at the time, Utopia) wrote and performed most of the music, as well as all male background vocals.

P.S. - As for best debut, I'll have to give the nod to Cream. I'd have to mention Todd's album "Something/Anything" as well ... technically not his first album, but it was his first solo album, and he did everything himself save a few studio musicians who joined in on a couple tracks.
That is one of the most ill-informed things I have heard in a long time.

History lesson for the noobs:

Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were the last 2 guitarists for the Yardbirds. The band broke up for various reasons and Jimmy Page wanted to put another band together with Jeff Beck and called it: The New Yardbirds. He checked out new singers and found Robert Plant. He checked out bass players and found a studio musician named John Paul Jones. And finally found Jon Bonham for a drummer. This band name was considered a bad idea by some and, including Entwistle, said it would go over like a lead zepplin. Intrigued by that name and changing the spelling so Americans wouldn't pronounce it leed zepplin; Led Zepplin was born. What is not widely known is that Jeff beck contributed to the first LZ album.

Jeff Beck is better than Page. This I agree with, but calling Page a Jeff Beck wannabe is stupid. As for the Yardbirds wannabe tag, I think I have explained that one.

History lesson is over now.

Thats about as funny as John Fogerty being sued because his songs sounded like CCR.....DUH!

 

Iron Woode

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Originally posted by: NL5
Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
First off, YES was voted best new group of 1969, and their debut album was also rated over Led Zep's debut. No big surprise. Zep couldn't shake the Yardbirds-wannabe tag, esp. with a wannabe like Page on guitar (and he still wishes he were as good as Jeff Beck ... never happening).

As for Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell, I don't know if it's fair to credit him with that or not. Steinman wrote a lot of the lyrics, and Todd Rundgren (with some help from his band at the time, Utopia) wrote and performed most of the music, as well as all male background vocals.

P.S. - As for best debut, I'll have to give the nod to Cream. I'd have to mention Todd's album "Something/Anything" as well ... technically not his first album, but it was his first solo album, and he did everything himself save a few studio musicians who joined in on a couple tracks.
That is one of the most ill-informed things I have heard in a long time.

History lesson for the noobs:

Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were the last 2 guitarists for the Yardbirds. The band broke up for various reasons and Jimmy Page wanted to put another band together with Jeff Beck and called it: The New Yardbirds. He checked out new singers and found Robert Plant. He checked out bass players and found a studio musician named John Paul Jones. And finally found Jon Bonham for a drummer. This band name was considered a bad idea by some and, including Entwistle, said it would go over like a lead zepplin. Intrigued by that name and changing the spelling so Americans wouldn't pronounce it leed zepplin; Led Zepplin was born. What is not widely known is that Jeff beck contributed to the first LZ album.

Jeff Beck is better than Page. This I agree with, but calling Page a Jeff Beck wannabe is stupid. As for the Yardbirds wannabe tag, I think I have explained that one.

History lesson is over now.

Thats about as funny as John Fogerty being sued because his songs sounded like CCR.....DUH!
LOL

I heard about that one.
 

thraxes

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I am also going to go with Led Zeppelin I and Jimi Hendrix - Are You Experienced.

My dad was kind enough to give me his old vinyl collection and there are few gems in it... those two are among my favorites
 

UglyCasanova

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Some more that I like:

Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun
Modest Mouse - This is a Long Drive for Someone With Nothing to Think About
Nick Drake - Pink Moon
 

packmule

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Originally posted by: Iron Woode
Originally posted by: Midnight Rambler
First off, YES was voted best new group of 1969, and their debut album was also rated over Led Zep's debut. No big surprise. Zep couldn't shake the Yardbirds-wannabe tag, esp. with a wannabe like Page on guitar (and he still wishes he were as good as Jeff Beck ... never happening).

As for Meatloaf's Bat Out of Hell, I don't know if it's fair to credit him with that or not. Steinman wrote a lot of the lyrics, and Todd Rundgren (with some help from his band at the time, Utopia) wrote and performed most of the music, as well as all male background vocals.

P.S. - As for best debut, I'll have to give the nod to Cream. I'd have to mention Todd's album "Something/Anything" as well ... technically not his first album, but it was his first solo album, and he did everything himself save a few studio musicians who joined in on a couple tracks.
That is one of the most ill-informed things I have heard in a long time.

History lesson for the noobs:

Jimmy Page and Jeff Beck were the last 2 guitarists for the Yardbirds. The band broke up for various reasons and Jimmy Page wanted to put another band together with Jeff Beck and called it: The New Yardbirds. He checked out new singers and found Robert Plant. He checked out bass players and found a studio musician named John Paul Jones. And finally found Jon Bonham for a drummer. This band name was considered a bad idea by some and, including Entwistle, said it would go over like a lead zepplin. Intrigued by that name and changing the spelling so Americans wouldn't pronounce it leed zepplin; Led Zepplin was born. What is not widely known is that Jeff beck contributed to the first LZ album.

Jeff Beck is better than Page. This I agree with, but calling Page a Jeff Beck wannabe is stupid. As for the Yardbirds wannabe tag, I think I have explained that one.

History lesson is over now.



IMHO I don't think Jeff Beck is better than Jimmy Page, Jimmy Page produced most of Zepplins albums and is way talented, think of him with the firm.



Also it apears that Pearl Jam Ten and Boston are really up there. To be truthful I had forgotten all about Boston's debut. (Prolly because they waited 15 years or more to release a follow up.) I am more surprised by some of the RAP or Country or R&B artists are not getting more posts. While I am a fan of all types of music I am more partial to the late 60's -70's rock. Could be the fact I grew up in Detroit listening to the WRIF during those years.

I was expecting some of the following to pop up in posts;

RUN DMC
NWA
Tim McGraw
Eminem
Garth Brooks
Billy Ray Cyrus (Laugh but it was a great debut)
Big -n- Rich

Again I like all music and hate to be tied to just one category.


 

grrl

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Originally posted by: yellowfiero
1. The Doors - The Doors
2. Cream - Fresh Cream
3. Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin I
4. Crosby Stills and Nash - Crosby Stills and Nash
5. Traffic - Mr. Fantasy
6. Blind Faith - Blind Faith
7. The Byrds - Mr. Tamborine man


Mr. Fantasy wasn't Traffic's debut and Blind Faith was their only album, so I don't know if that one counts either.
 

josedawg

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While it is really hard to say one debut album that is the best of all time, I will list a few that I really enjoyed.

Boston
Led Zeppelin
Nas - Illmatic
2Pac - 2Pacalypse Now
Foo Fighters - Foo Fighters
Wu-Tang - Enter the Wu-Tang (36 Chambers)
Lauryn Hill - Miseducation of Lauryn Hill


Not the best, but definitely good debut albums:

Gza - Liquid Swords
Cunninlynguists - Will Rap for Food
Ben Folds Five - Ben Folds Five
Cannibal Ox - Cold Vein
Cyndi Lauper - She's So Unusual
DMX - It's Dark and Hell Is Hot
Jurassic 5 - Jurassic 5 EP or Quality Control (the EP was before QC, both were good, but QC would probably fall under the "debut" album)
Outkast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik (a few fillers, but overall great debut album)
Radiohead - Pablo Honey (not OK Computer like someone before said, which was their 3rd album I believe)
Snoop Doggy Dogg - Doggystyle
Stone Temple Pilots - Core (I always play the intro to the first song whenever I wanna rev myself up to do something)
The Get Up Kids - Four Minute Mile (Woodson was the EP before this, so I dont think it counts as a debut album)
The Stryder - Masquerade in the Key of Crime
Weezer - Weezer (Blue Album)


The above is the opinion of josedawg.
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: OREOSpeedwagon
Originally posted by: glen
Boston: Boston 1976 11th best selling album of all time, and highest début album for anyone.
16 million copies have been sold in the USA alone.

Oh my god, it took this long for someone to mention, without a doubt, the BEST debut album of all time (and one of the best albums of all time)???
Yeah if you like one song played ten different ways.
Of those 16 million copies I'm sure 12 million were bought by adolescent girls.

I'll pick Jimi Hendrix's "Are you experienced"

BTW, the members of Cream are back in the studio working on an album as is Rod Stewart and Jeff Beck. Hope they can capture some of their old magic.
 

madogvt

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Led Zeppelin I
Crosby,Stills and Nash

And if Layla is considered Derek and the Dominoes' debut album, I'd include that.
 

Xenon

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Originally posted by: RedRooster
August and Everything After - Counting Crows

Good call on this one. I listened to this all the time back when it was released.

 

luv2chill

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Originally posted by: UglyCasanova
Some more that I like:

Sigur Ros - Agaetis Byrjun
Modest Mouse - This is a Long Drive for Someone With Nothing to Think About
Nick Drake - Pink Moon

All awesome albums, except 1 & 3 are not debuts. Sigur Ros's debut album was called Von. Nick's debut is Five Leaves Left.

l2c


 

OCNewbie

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Disturbed's debut album "The Sickness" kicks ass. Also really like Shinedown's debut "Leave a Whisper", probably not in the running, but 2 really good debut albums IMO that came out recently.

I really like Ten by PJ though, great album.
 

renierh

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Originally posted by: psiu
Pearl Jam Ten

:beer:

to me this is the best debut ever.

appetite for destruction wasnt that great imho. i liked the albums after that better.


 

elbosco

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My votes go for:

Boston: Boston
The Doors: The Doors
Hootie & The Blowfish: Cracked Rear View
Skid Row: Skid Row (debuted at #1 if i recall correctly)
Oasis: Definately Maybe
Gun N' roses: Appetite For Destruction
Mars Volta: De-Loused In The Comatorium
Ozzy Osbourne: Blizzard Of Oz

I can probably thinkof some more but it's 3:30 in the morning and I need to catch some sleep.
 
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