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LOUISSSSS

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if i had to get two mice today, i'd get the Razer Deathadder for gaming, and something that fits your hand with many buttons and wireless for general usage maybe a g5 or a g7. The logitech MX revolution looks cool but complicated and heavy
 

Psynaut

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I just found this thread in a search as I am looking for a new mouse and I have a couple questions. Alot of people seem to like the Deathadder better than the Copperhead and the Diamondback for righthanded users.

1) Is it much of a disadvantage in gaming to have the 5 side buttons of the Deathadder rather than the 7-buttons on some of the other mice?

2) Do the drivers work in Vista 64? (My Razer Barracuda has unsinged drivers and Razer CS will not even tell me if they are targeting 2008 to have drivers signed.)

3) Is there a better recommendation for gaming and regular use for a right hander?

 

lloydxd

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Diamondback for gaming and Logitech MX1000 for daily use but I'm starting to like the dell optical mouse (for some reason it feels nice and can do both gaming and daily usage).

Another great mouse is the MX700 blue tooth edition. Its heavy and feels solid. My friend has the non-blue tooth one and its been over 3 years.
 

bunnyfubbles

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Originally posted by: Psynaut
I just found this thread in a search as I am looking for a new mouse and I have a couple questions. Alot of people seem to like the Deathadder better than the Copperhead and the Diamondback for righthanded users.

1) Is it much of a disadvantage in gaming to have the 5 side buttons of the Deathadder rather than the 7-buttons on some of the other mice?

2) Do the drivers work in Vista 64? (My Razer Barracuda has unsinged drivers and Razer CS will not even tell me if they are targeting 2008 to have drivers signed.)

3) Is there a better recommendation for gaming and regular use for a right hander?

1) Mice like the Copperhead and Diamondback, even though they have 7 buttons, are essentially 5 button mouse as well (or the 9 button Lachesis is more a 7 button...) - their ambidextrous designs make it all but impossible to use the two buttons opposite of the thumb operated buttons during intense/precise mouse use - I'll even disable those two buttons to keep from something negative happening should I accidentally press one.

I find that more buttons on mice is only truly useful in games such as RTS or RPG or MMO games where precise movements of the mouse might not be as necessary as mapping lots of commands or macros to your peripherals.

However I still place almost all of the value in a 'gaming mouse' for its primary function off controlling the cursor (or reticle or whatever depending upon the game) as quickly and accurately as possible. Teamed up with a compatible surface, nothing can beat Razer's 3G infrared optical (DeathAdder/Diamondback 3G/Boomslang CE 2007) - that being said, it is my opinion that the DeathAdder is still easily one of the best out there despite having fewer buttons. Razer has a new mouse coming out (the Salmosa - which appears to be their upgraded replacement for the Krait) that has only three buttons/scroll wheel that I'd still be interested in for gaming use as long as it performs as well as the DeathAdder (and it should because it appears to have the same guts).

2) As long as the drivers work, it doesn't matter whether or not they're signed - the whole signed BS started by Microsoft is just to cover their own ass if your system becomes unstable from a 3rd party's drivers.

3) No, I don't think there is a better alternative for a typical right handed palm user. Keep in mind that just because a mouse has a particular form factor orientation doesn't necessarily make it the best for all users of that particular orientation (right or left handed). Smaller/ambidextrous mice far more typical of Razer (the DeathAdder is actually one of the only exceptions) also tend to be better suited to users who use a different grip than one where the entire hand and palm rests upon the mouse
 

Psynaut

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Originally posted by: bunnyfubbles
Originally posted by: Psynaut
I just found this thread in a search as I am looking for a new mouse and I have a couple questions. Alot of people seem to like the Deathadder better than the Copperhead and the Diamondback for righthanded users.

1) Is it much of a disadvantage in gaming to have the 5 side buttons of the Deathadder rather than the 7-buttons on some of the other mice?

2) Do the drivers work in Vista 64? (My Razer Barracuda has unsinged drivers and Razer CS will not even tell me if they are targeting 2008 to have drivers signed.)

3) Is there a better recommendation for gaming and regular use for a right hander?

1) Mice like the Copperhead and Diamondback, even though they have 7 buttons, are essentially 5 button mouse as well (or the 9 button Lachesis is more a 7 button...) - their ambidextrous designs make it all but impossible to use the two buttons opposite of the thumb operated buttons during intense/precise mouse use - I'll even disable those two buttons to keep from something negative happening should I accidentally press one.

I find that more buttons on mice is only truly useful in games such as RTS or RPG or MMO games where precise movements of the mouse might not be as necessary as mapping lots of commands or macros to your peripherals.

However I still place almost all of the value in a 'gaming mouse' for its primary function off controlling the cursor (or reticle or whatever depending upon the game) as quickly and accurately as possible. Teamed up with a compatible surface, nothing can beat Razer's 3G infrared optical (DeathAdder/Diamondback 3G/Boomslang CE 2007) - that being said, it is my opinion that the DeathAdder is still easily one of the best out there despite having fewer buttons. Razer has a new mouse coming out (the Salmosa - which appears to be their upgraded replacement for the Krait) that has only three buttons/scroll wheel that I'd still be interested in for gaming use as long as it performs as well as the DeathAdder (and it should because it appears to have the same guts).

2) As long as the drivers work, it doesn't matter whether or not they're signed - the whole signed BS started by Microsoft is just to cover their own ass if your system becomes unstable from a 3rd party's drivers.

3) No, I don't think there is a better alternative for a typical right handed palm user. Keep in mind that just because a mouse has a particular form factor orientation doesn't necessarily make it the best for all users of that particular orientation (right or left handed). Smaller/ambidextrous mice far more typical of Razer (the DeathAdder is actually one of the only exceptions) also tend to be better suited to users who use a different grip than one where the entire hand and palm rests upon the mouse


Thanks fopr the reply, I really appreciate it. After much reading I have narrowed it down to either the Deathadder or the G9; I think I will go to Frys and see how they feel in my hand.

The only reason I asked about the signed drivers is because in Vista 64, (unlike Vista 32) you can't choose to install the drivers anyway and then boot normally. Because of my unsigned Soundcard driver I have to boot from F8 every single time to get sound from the card. Not the end of the world, but an inconvenience I wish I didn't have to live with.
 

yours truly

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i bought 4 different mice since last summer; g7, deathadder, g9 and mx revolution. gave my g7 to my bro, lagged during counterstrike. imo deathadder sux balls. had driver issues? didnt track well, continued to fire after i stopped pressing mouse1. problems when my hand used to sweat, couldnt hold mouse properly. horrid mouse. using g9 and mx revolution now. g9 hands down best mouse ive ever used. not one issue at all, in what 8 months..

mx revolution is also excellent wireless mouse btw
 

Jax Omen

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I had lag issues with my G7 until I realized that the thing really doesn't have much wireless range. Just set the receiver up right next to my monitor (actually, in between my two monitors, underneath them >_>) and it works like a dream. I love that thing.
 

Edge1

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I just got the DeathAdder, so I guess I'm officially a gaming geek now. First ever gaming mouse and its quite fabulous. Smooth, quick, comfortable...zero complaints. Had a wireless Logitech LX7 before this. Very happy, and though its hard to part with $60 or so for a mouse, it actually feels worth it.
 

octopus41092

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I have a Lachesis, and it is the best mouse I've ever used and worth every penny. Its a little bit longer then other mice so it's good for bigger hands. Also, it's got individual sensors for the X, Y Axis, 4000 DPI, 1000Hz polling rate, and can take 60-100 inches of acceleration. Also its got 5 profiles which I find useful. Spec wise its the best mouse out there, but as for comfort goes some people don't like it but I actually think its really comfortable.
 

Jephph

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I've used the MX510 for a long time, but it started double right clicking in CoD4, so I got a G9. The MX510 was defintely very comfortable. The G9 has sort of a foward lean design to it. It's definitely more gaming oriented than other mice and the MX510, but I've gotten pretty used to it for general use as well. The customization (weight, on the fly DPI, two choices for grips) is nice too.
 

bassoprofundo

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I've found my personal mousing Nirvana with the new Razer Boomslang CE I've been using for a couple of weeks now. I loved the original Boomslang 2000, and the new model is a godsend if you like the BS form-factor. When my BS2Ks finally gave up and the ghost and/or stopped getting driver support, I switched over to Boomslang 2100s. They were like cheap knock-offs of the original as all 3 had some issue or another with tracking, imbalance, buttons, etc. I've been using a Diamondback Plasma ever since, which was great except that it felt like it was made for "little people." The Boomslang CE combines the form-factor and beauty of the BS2000 with the technology of the later models. It even manages to one up the attractiveness of the originals with a nice titanium finsh and LED highlights on the scroll wheel and bottom of the mouse. Not for the cheap, but worth every penny to me...
 

dino26

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"imo deathadder sux balls"

I think you must have received a defective product. I love my deathadder and have had no such problems. I also researched it quite a bit and it seemed to get pretty much all good reviews without any review sites claiming to have the problems you had.
 

kylef

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Originally posted by: Commontone
Maybe your old motherboard is USB 1.1 rather than USB 2.0?

99.5% of USB HID devices (mice and keyboards) are "low-speed" USB 1.1, not "high-speed" or "full-speed" USB 2.0 devices, so backwards compatibility shouldn't be an issue.

However, there could always be a physical problem with the USB ports themselves... Power is a possibility, as USB ports utilize separate current supply/limiter chip, which usually supplies power to all of the ports on a motherboard. You could rule this out if you have a self-powered USB hub (i.e., one with an AC adapter). Plug the hub into the motherboard, and plug the mouse into the hub.
 

bfdd

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Feb 3, 2007
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Razer Deathadder - The only Razer mouse I can actually stomach to hold in my hand.
Steelseries Ikari Lazer - AWESOME mouse insane build quality, 1-3200 dpi controllable by 1dpi incriments so you can find your "perfect" high and low settings
MS Explorer 3.0 - The OG great great great gaming mouse.
 

Sketcher

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Aug 15, 2001
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Razer Deathadder.
I tried the Lachesis but it just didn't feel comfortable to me; went back to the Deathadder.
 

jamminj606

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Ive used the G5 before and it was ok, but I prefer the Razer Deathadder. It just seems smoother. Also my g5 right click went out during a dota game...
 

bfdd

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Not a big fan of the G9 I don't like the way it feels in my hand and I use to game with one of the 3 button old Logitechs with a similar shape before. I totally agree with Sketcher the Lachesis doesn't feel right none of the Razers really do imo except the Deathadder it feels great. I'm using a Steelseries Ikari atm.
 

bfdd

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Originally posted by: Throckmorton
Originally posted by: Dangerer
many counter-strike 1.6 and source pro's still use microsoft explorer 3.0

And they still play CS 1.6, hahahah!

The Explorer 3.0 is a great mouse, extremely light, good dpi, high samples per second. Personally the extremely light thing and the light buttons turn me a way. I actually prefer a really heavy mouse, maybe cause I'm not a sissy but *shrug*. When I played competitive CS I was one of the first people to start showing up with the newer Logitech MX lines at local tournaments because I liked the weight better. The design on the Explorer 3.0 is top notch though, fits your hand so nicely.
 
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