Best GPU that doesn't need a pcie power slot.

[moneer]

Hello AT.
I'm trying to bring back to life my old pc. Currently it's rocking an EVGA 750ti SC, which is a mATX or ITX size, not sure.

Are there any GPUs out there worth the upgrade over this one, which are the same form factor and do not require a 6 or 8-pin?

The PSU in my pc is proprietary and irreplaceable, and doesn't support the 6 or 8 pins.

I do have a free sata power slot, however, and I heard somewhere there are cables that convert that power to a 6 pin but are they practical and safe?

Thanks in advance!!!!

 

[ConsoleLover]

reference RX 460 or even some custom versions.

 

[A5]

Your options are get an RX460 or wait for the GTX 1050. I wouldn't trust one of those SATA adapters, personally.

 

[96Firebird]

RX 460 or GTX 950 have connector-less options, and are similar performance-wise.

I wouldn't use the SATA adapter either...

 

[Painman]

Your options are get an RX460 or wait for the GTX 1050. I wouldn't trust one of those SATA adapters, personally.

Molex says hello.

 

[krumme]

RX 460 or GTX 950 have connector-less options, and are similar performance-wise.

I wouldn't use the SATA adapter either...

No they are not similar if you compare connector less vs connector less. 460 is faster here.

 

[SPBHM]

I don't see a problem with using a 6pin adapter, specially not for lower power cards with the connector like a GTX 960.
it really depends on how much load you PSU can handle on 12v and how much the rest of the components is using in the end.

 

[krumme]

I don't see a problem with using a 6pin adapter, specially not for lower power cards with the connector like a GTX 960.
it really depends on how much load you PSU can handle on 12v and how much the rest of the components is using in the end.

Agree. Look at specs at the ps. A 1060 3GB will fit in most cases.

A have run a 7850 from an old fanless 300w psu via adapter. Lol.

 

[Bryf50]

I have this card in my HTPC. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...0446076&PID=6163686&SID=it1jo5jvj5011rh100053

 

[nerp]

This segment is in between generations, for the most part. Lots of new cards will be out at some point. There are some options but I'd personally wait for some time.

 

[Arachnotronic]

wait for the 1050 and decide between that and the rx 460.

 

[antihelten]

No they are not similar if you compare connector less vs connector less. 460 is faster here.

Actually it's the other way around, the connectorless 950 is faster than the connectorless 460:

Connectorless 950 is 14% slower than the 950 Strix:

On the other hand, the connectorless RX 460 (the 2GB version) is 24% slower:

In other words the connectorless 950 is 13% faster than the connectorless RX 460.

 

[96Firebird]

No they are not similar if you compare connector less vs connector less. 460 is faster here.

Disagree. GTX 950 without connector is about 3% slower than standard 950 @ 1080p:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_950/23.html

RX 460 (WITH connector) is even with standard 950 @ 1080p:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_460_STRIX_OC/24.html

Edit - Or see above. TPU didn't review a connector-less RX 460.

 

[krumme]

Disagree. GTX 950 without connector is about 3% slower than standard 950 @ 1080p:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GTX_950/23.html

RX 460 (WITH connector) is even with standard 950 @ 1080p:

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/RX_460_STRIX_OC/24.html

Edit - Or see above. TPU didn't review a connector-less RX 460.

Yep by tpu games selection.
I will tend to do the mix far differently.

But anyway even if your game selection is older vs biased for the newest and comming games at eg 3% difference going for the new card is a nobrainer.

Go look at old pitcairn at tpu. Its faster than 680 today and more efficient. Crazy stuff.

 

[antihelten]

Yep by tpu games selection.
I will tend to do the mix far differently.

But anyway even if your game selection is older vs biased for the newest and comming games at eg 3% difference going for the new card is a nobrainer.

Go look at old pitcairn at tpu. Its faster than 680 today and more efficient. Crazy stuff.

Also by Computerbase.de's games selection (see my post above).

And no it's not just a 3% difference for the new card. The card in 96Firebirds link is the 4GB RX 460 with a connector, the connectorless RX 460 is significantly slower (including slower than the connectorless 950).

 

[s44]

There *are* higher-performing cards, but none are worth the upgrade. I'd wait for a 1050 or use the adapter on a 1060.

 

[krumme]

Also by Computerbase.de's games selection (see my post above).

And no it's not just a 3% difference for the new card. The card in 96Firebirds link is the 4GB RX 460 with a connector, the connectorless RX 460 is significantly slower (including slower than the connectorless 950).

Yeaa.
"Counter-Strike: GO, DOTA 2, League of Legends, Overwatch, World Tanks sowie World of Warcraft sind es heute, die stellvertretend getestet werden."
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08/radeon-rx-460-test/4/


Give me a break. So 950 is 13% faster than 460 non connector in games from the stone age. Agree.

If your purpose is to solely play a 132 fps dota 2 and the like by all means go for a 950.

If you also buy to play comming games at 60fps get a 460.

Did you get the memo: A 7870 beats a 680 today and is even more efficient as per tpu bm. A 680 that was even faster than 7970 back then. Its a hell of a difference.

A maxwell 950 will tank in the comming games vs a 460. We have already seen maxwell do worse over time vs gcn.

Its a damn stupid buy vs a semilar priced 950.

 

[krumme]

Instead of Dota 2 what about Doom?
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-radeon-rx-460-strix-gaming-4gb-review,14.html

The difference vs playable and not. I cant see if the 950 was with pin here and its the 4gb 460 but its 30 vs 47 fps.
Nearly 50% faster.
Fps where it matters and not in dota 2.

 

[Bryf50]

Actually it's the other way around, the connectorless 950 is faster than the connectorless 460:

Connectorless 950 is 14% slower than the 950 Strix:

On the other hand, the connectorless RX 460 (the 2GB version) is 24% slower:

In other words the connectorless 950 is 13% faster than the connectorless RX 460.

Connectorless RX 460 != 2GB RX 460. See my link above.

 

[Ken g6]

I wouldn't trust one of those SATA adapters, personally.

I wouldn't say a SATA adapter is bad in and of itself. However, if your power supply doesn't have even one 6-pin connector, it's likely a weak power supply that can't handle a high-end graphics card, no matter the connector.

Molex says hello.

I used a Molex on a GTX 460 once, because I knew my Corsair PSU could handle it. But most current power supplies that can handle a graphics card have at least one 6-pin or 8-pin. Even that power supply had one 6-pin; it merely lacked a second.

 

[Leyawiin]

To summarize without all the red/green rancor, there are two options - GTX 950 (a few models) or some RX 460 models. Performance is very similar and should be predicated upon what your intended games are going to be. Either will be about 50% faster than your GTX 750 Ti.

If you want to wait for the GTX 1050 to see if it does't need a six pin its almost assuredly going to be significantly faster than an RX 460 (given the previous gen GTX 950 is matching it). But, given it will be a new Nvidia model it will almost certainly be more expensive.

 

[sm625]

You can use a SATA/Molex adapter. Just dont overclock the card. Dont pick a card that pulls a lot of current from the 6 pin. This basically means you need to go with an nvidia card. A GTX 1060 would be just fine.

 

[antihelten]

Yeaa.
"Counter-Strike: GO, DOTA 2, League of Legends, Overwatch, World Tanks sowie World of Warcraft sind es heute, die stellvertretend getestet werden."
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08/radeon-rx-460-test/4/

Give me a break. So 950 is 13% faster than 460 non connector in games from the stone age. Agree.

If your purpose is to solely play a 132 fps dota 2 and the like by all means go for a 950.

If you also buy to play comming games at 60fps get a 460.

Why are you ignoring all the other games they tested?

Here's the full list of games they tested beyond the ones you listed:

• Anno 2205
• Ashes of the Singularity
• Assassin's Creed: Syndicate
• CoD: Black Ops 3
• Dirt Rally
• DOOM
• F1 2015
• Fallout 4
• Far Cry Primal
• GTA V
• Hitman
• Just Cause 3
• Metal Gear Solid 5
• Might and Magic: Heroes 7
• Mirror's Edge: Catalyst
• Rainbow Six: Siege
• Rise of the Tomb Raider
• Star Wars: Battlefront
• The Division
• Talos Principle
• The vanishing of Ethan Carter
• Witcher 3
• Total War: Warhammer
• XCOM 2

I really don't understand how you could possibly have missed these, seeing as they are right there on the previous page of the review you just linked.

Did you get the memo: A 7870 beats a 680 today and is even more efficient as per tpu bm. A 680 that was even faster than 7970 back then. Its a hell of a difference.

A maxwell 950 will tank in the comming games vs a 460. We have already seen maxwell do worse over time vs gcn.

Its a damn stupid buy vs a semilar priced 950.

Did you already forget what you wrote? You didn't claim that the 460 would be faster than the 950 in the future you claimed that it was faster right now. Stop moving the goalposts

Connectorless RX 460 != 2GB RX 460. See my link above.

I didn't mean that all connectorless RX 460 was equal to the 2GB, I simply meant that the connectorless RX 460 was equal to the 2GB version in the graph I linked, since there was also a 4GB version in said graph which does have a 6-pin connector.

But by all means if you know of another site that has tested both the connectorless 950 and a connectorless RX 460 (including the card you own), I would love to see it.

 

[Phynaz]

To summarize without all the red/green rancor, there are two options - GTX 950 (a few models) or some RX 460 models. Performance is very similar and should be predicated upon what your intended games are going to be. Either will be about 50% faster than your GTX 750 Ti.

If you want to wait for the GTX 1050 to see if it does't need a six pin its almost assuredly going to be significantly faster than an RX 460 (given the previous gen GTX 950 is matching it). But, given it will be a new Nvidia model it will almost certainly be more expensive.

Listen to this.

 

[krumme]

"moving goalpost"

Its semantics and i dont intend to move goal post. The question is what is the fastest but what we want to give advice about is what is the smart and best card to buy.
We live life forward and the gfx we buy will play both old and comming games.
Comming high perf aaa games is where the gfx is stressed. Bm and reviews should reflect that. They seldom do.
I will always recommend eg a standard 1070 instead of a very high clock 980ti. And a 460 to a 950.
Maxwell will eg get nothing that will even resemble asynch capability in games and in one year it will hurt it like we see in Doom. It will only go one way.

Personally i would never bother upgrade for like 50% so i would either wait for 1050 or better take the chance with a 1060 6gb. Or a voltage underclocked ref 470 if budget is tight and more nerd fun is needed.