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Kabob

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It's the art style that makes Blizzard games look good...even now. Besides, WC3 came out in 2001. It's easy to look back at a nine year old game (dang WC3 is almost a decade old?!) and say the graphics are "pretty shoddy".

I'd put texture quality (I know you can't compare an FPS to a RTS) for WC3 about on part with UT99.

I didn't realize it was that old either, I thought it was an early '02 game.
 

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I hear this all the time. Guess what if you're not maxing AA then you're not maxed. I doubt that rig will run any of the crysis games "truly" maxed and not drop below 30fps.

To me something like AA is strictly optional when talking about maxing a game out...at my resolution AA really honestly isnt even noticeable as it is on a LCD or lower resolution. In my case I consider having my resolution maxed as well as in game graphics settings to all enthusiast as being MAXED out...because if counting out AA (again optional) having every thing being the the best visually is running it at the best it can.

BACK ON TOPIC!!!

Again, as Ive said, current playable engine is the Cryengine 2. id Tech 5 is already a bit behind although this has to be proven with in game playing. Cryengine 3 will most likely be the best future engine if the changes from Cryengine 3 really are the prominent, if not the Metro 2033 engine looks absolutely stunning!
 
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Nik

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Can your PC run CRYSIS ON MAXIMUM SETTINGS?! Can any PC?!

The CPU I have in my box right now can, sure. I just don't have the video to back it up. I recently saw two GF100's in SLI on display by some nvidia folks and I was at what it can do. I'm sure one of those and my cpu would run crisis at max just fine.
 

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I for one am extremely curious to know what a face pussy is.

Oh god, I am straining to hold back tears of laughter in my office right now, just lost it when I read this. Thanks for making my day.

On topic, I haven't seen anything that has impressed me the way Crysis did at 1920x1200 on max detail (no custom tweaking/settings). It was slow at parts (chugged on the ice part/final boss) but was spectacular. Never bothered with Warheads. Currently, Mass Effect 2 has impressed me, more so because of the art style and attention to detail rather than technical achievement.
 

HeXploiT

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To me something like AA is strictly optional when talking about maxing a game out...at my resolution AA really honestly isnt even noticeable as it is on a LCD or lower resolution. In my case I consider having my resolution maxed as well as in game graphics settings to all enthusiast as being MAXED out...because if counting out AA (again optional) having every thing being the the best visually is running it at the best it can.

BACK ON TOPIC!!!

Again, as Ive said, current playable engine is the Cryengine 2. id Tech 5 is already a bit behind although this has to be proven with in game playing. Cryengine 3 will most likely be the best future engine if the changes from Cryengine 3 really are the prominent, if not the Metro 2033 engine looks absolutely stunning!

If you have a trained eye, there is a huge difference between no AA and 16x AA even at 1920x1200..
 

mmntech

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Nothing has wowed me lately other than Uncharted 2, which is pretty impressive considering the age of the GPU in the PS3. Haven't played Crysis. Far Cry, Oblivion, and Doom 3 definitely wowed me when they first came out. Actually, quite a boom of pretty games during those years. Not so much anymore.

A lot of PC games are console ports now, which is why graphics aren't showing huge leaps like they used to. Not a lot of people developing on the PC as the dominant platform. Graphics are sort of secondary to me now. The hardware needed to give those games, like Crysis, justice is just too expensive. As long as it has good gameplay and doesn't look ugly, I can do without the bleeding edge.
 

aigomorla

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Can your PC run CRYSIS ON MAXIMUM SETTINGS?! Can any PC?!

mine can with ini optimizations.

Then again, im running a 4.4ghz hexcore+ 12gb DDR3 + quad-fire.
^ Is that enough monster of a gaming system for you guys?

I like the unreal engine.. i think its pretty badass for what it can do, and the hardware required for what it does.

Im sure DX11 will change games and the way they are visually presented.
Im even tempted to step up to eyefinity once more games are supported for it.
 
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CP5670

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I was impressed by Cryostasis's graphics. It's not quite Crysis, but I think it's better than anything else I have seen, probably edging out UT3. The is more due to the game's artwork than the engine itself though, and the performance is as bad as Crysis.

I'd put texture quality (I know you can't compare an FPS to a RTS) for WC3 about on part with UT99.

UT99 actually has exceptional texture quality if you use the S3TC packages for it, better than just about any modern game. Some of those textures go up to 4096x4096 and remain very sharp when you get close to them, especially combined with the game's aggressive detail texturing.
 

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gramboh

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If you have a trained eye, there is a huge difference between no AA and 16x AA even at 1920x1200..

Fully agree. MASSIVE difference at 1920x1200 in every game I have played between no AA and even 4A XX let alone 16. On a CRT maybe it is less noticible, but on a 24in LCD it's blatant. I don't think you would ever not notice AA, jaggy edges will always been evident.
 

CP5670

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I can see a big difference between those options even at 2048x1536 on a 20" screen. It's actually the dot pitch that matters here, not the resolution, but current displays are nowhere near a point where the dot pitch is small enough for AA not to be noticeable.
 

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Not to get off topic here, but those saying Crysis at max blah blah...I dont know if my computer is magical or something...but just now playing Crysis Warhead at MAX settings 1800x1440 WITH 8X AA at 30+ FPS...this is a genuine concern here...the AA is working, I can tell...but how the hell am I getting 30+FPS on average (granted theres those times that I get below 30FPS)...usually around 45fps or so...how the HELL is this possible?

I guess I CAN play Crysis at max settings...
 

NoSoup4You

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I no longer care about which game 'taxes my system with its uber l33t graphics'. I want a game taht looks great AND runs smoothly on my hardware. I don't typically run out-dated or slow hardware so it's not like I'm looking for something to run on 4 year old components.

I find the graphics of MW2 to be extremely appealing on pc, and pc only. I have it for X360 too and it's digusting on consoles. That game's the total package on pc. Sure, I loved Crysis back when it came out. It's still the 'gold standard' for pc games but it's just old news to me at this point. Unfortuantely the consoles have sort of killed the advancement of pc graphics, Empire Total War was nice but pc exclusives are few and far between...
 

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WITH 8X AA at 30+ FPS...this is a genuine concern here...the AA is working, I can tell...but how the hell am I getting 30+FPS on average (granted theres those times that I get below 30FPS)...usually around 45fps or so...how the HELL is this possible?

I guess I CAN play Crysis at max settings...

there asking for 60fps+

On quadfire i can pull it off with ini optimizations for Ati cards.
 

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Not to get off topic here, but those saying Crysis at max blah blah...I dont know if my computer is magical or something...but just now playing Crysis Warhead at MAX settings 1800x1440 WITH 8X AA at 30+ FPS...this is a genuine concern here...the AA is working, I can tell...but how the hell am I getting 30+FPS on average (granted theres those times that I get below 30FPS)...usually around 45fps or so...how the HELL is this possible?

I guess I CAN play Crysis at max settings...

How did you get your 4890s at that temp?
 

AndroidVageta

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How did you get your 4890s at that temp?

On stock cooling (reference design) It sits at (currently) 45 idle on card 1 (primary) and 41c on secondary card. Load (using 3DMark Vantage max settings 8x AA 16x AF) after both main GPU tests card 1 is at 62c and card 2 is at 59c. This is at 50% fan speed...rather quiet among rest of PC fans.

Ive read online and have see idle/load temps MUCH higher. It is currently (as of time of test) 73F in my house according to thermostat. I dont know what I got in these 4890's but they seem to be golden or something. And to mention on top of it all that the secondary 4890 is running a 4870 fan (dont know if theres a difference) as I needed a replacement (thanks JaYp146 @ [H]!).

Really odd I must say, I know some guy here said "60fps" but honestly, considering what Im running here...even if 30fps average at 8x AA that is still quite impressive none the less!
 

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If you have a trained eye, there is a huge difference between no AA and 16x AA even at 1920x1200..


I run 25x16, I absolutely cannot tell 4x from 8x. There may be that staircase that is 1 pixel shifted to the LEFT. AND it can only be seen if you put your eyes right infront of the staircase from 3 inchs away.

4x AA is all you'll ever need
 

bunnyfubbles

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If you have a trained eye, there is a huge difference between no AA and 16x AA even at 1920x1200..

There's a huge difference between no AA and any AA, no trained eye required.

I run 25x16, I absolutely cannot tell 4x from 8x. There may be that staircase that is 1 pixel shifted to the LEFT. AND it can only be seen if you put your eyes right infront of the staircase from 3 inchs away.

4x AA is all you'll ever need

I can tell the difference from 4x to 8x. Granted, its nothing compared to 0x to 2x, or 2x to 4x. 4x is a good standard, and an excellent compromise to keep performance up.
 
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i just switched from an intel based core 2 duo E6750 system running a single bfg 8800gt to an AMD based unlocked 550 BE phenom II and a single visiontek 5770 card. never had anything by AMD or ATI before. will i notice any differecne in say COD Modern warfare or COD 2 play.? i mainly built it to see if i could unlock the BE 550 cpu to a quad core. didn't really have any expectations beyond that. no i do not own a copy of crysis.
 

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Best graphics ever (taking time factor into account)?

Games with great graphics have come out since then, but none has reproduced the "wow" factor of seeing Unreal for the first time for me.
 

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Yea lol even on my system I still can't run Crysis maxed on it on highest settings. Maxed anti-aliasing and filtering kill it.

Its extremely rare for me to play a game and almost be forced to smile at the engine's awesomeness for the first time. Watching all the trees fall in the middle of a firefight for the first time, or driving a truck through a building and watching it get owned... just cracked me up for some reason.
 
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