Dan Wesson CCO.
Oh, wait...cheap? Glock 30.
I saw a 1903 over at my local shop and considered buying it, just for the lulz. Then realized I cant be pissing away that kind of money until I get a job.
Asking "What is the best gun for concealed carry?" is like asking "What is the best car to go fast in?"
You need to add some criteria. What kind of experience do you have? Where do you plan to carry it on your person (inside the waist band, pocket, ankle holster, etc.)? Does recoil bother you? Do you prefer pistols or revolvers? Etc.
Personally, my vote goes to the Smith & Wesson Bodyguard .380. It's small enough for pocket carry, slim, has a safety (my preference), is DAO (no hammer to get caught on the pocket lining), decent sights, and holds 6+1 rounds of .380. .380 is no powerhouse, but it packs enough of a punch, unless you're planning to go up against bears, mountain lions, or the Incredible Hulk.
For something with more stopping power, it's a trade-off with size and weight. My next purchase is most likely going to be a Smith & Wesson M&P Shield in 9mm. I have carried a full-frame 1911 and a service-size double-stack 9mm before, and they're not fun to conceal. Even my Bodyguard in an IWB holster gives me more issues with everyday clothes (jeans and T-shirt) than just sticking it in a pocket holster. I hate having to worry about whether or not my shirt rode up and flashed my gun to anyone around me when I bend down to get an item off a bottom shelf.
Koenigsegg CCXR
Just buy a .22
...and never be able to dry fire the weapon without damaging it! Empty draw and fire exercises? Nope!
Oh, and then there's the issue of the bullet and ballistics. It's not even that good for coyote and you're recommending it for the best CCW carry? Someone might want to stick to recommending anime and video cards, just sayin...
Now, I've heard the .22Mag (.22WMR) makes an adequate backup gun, but I have serious reservations about trusting my life to rimfire initiation.
There are plenty of concealable options out there in 9mm and larger that will serve you well, so there's no reason to opt for the baby round unless you are an anemic midget more interested in annoying attackers than stopping them.
Shit this thread is idiotic, we need to find inspiration and insights from the real experts.
After all, the experts short list includes Lee Harvet Oswalt, Dylon Clevebolt, the VMI shooter, Gerald Laughner, Brevek, and now we can add in a new Guru Joker from Colorado. And apologies to the nuts I ignored. As the concision is almost unmistakable. Guns kill people, and does it really matter which gun nuts choose?
As for me, I hate loud noises, why be penny ante, use nerve gas and anthrax and be able to kill so many more people.
But that is my dilemma on this forum, I can send a PM to all my forum critics,
but I still have not figured out how to pack nerve gas or anthrax along with the PM. But I am working at it, trust me, last man standing alive on this forum wins.
Shens. You can dry fire the Mark III provided you dont go crazy with it.
Or get snap caps dirt cheap, thats fine too.
Dry fire is not recommended by manufacturers for rimfire. It won't be immediately catastrophic, but it isn't exactly harmless either. Some models are more tolerant of it than others. Snap caps are the way to go though, I agree, not sure why I didn't think of that.
Guns kill people
And forks cause obesity, and cars make people drive drunk
It won't annoy them, it will put a hole in them exactly the same as a .45 or 9mm
google the videos of .22LR shots going straight through various thicknesses of solid pine boards or baseballs, which are a lot tougher than your chest or skull. If you hit vital organ/center mass/head it will incapacitate them regardless of caliber unless something truly freakish happens. If you miss vital organ/center mass/head, you likely won't incapacitate them regardless of caliber unless something truly freakish happens.
I own a Mark III.
I read the manual.
You can dry fire it once in a while.
You cannot sit around for hours on end constantly dry firing.
Pardon the colloquial term for "underpowered" Still, false! If you can't see the difference between a .45 hollowpoint and .22LR in soft tissue tests I don't know what to tell you. Different kind of wound entirely.
I have reservations about effectiveness with heavy clothing too, maybe not a concern for Floridians but up here in the snowy North Woods a good chunk of the year has most people wearing many layers.
Actually I know I am tougher than pine, it's not that hard - kinda why we refer to it as softwood. I started breaking pine boards with various body parts (head included) when I was 10. A lot of kids do. Definitely not as durable as a baseball, but it doesn't really matter: you seem to be operating under the premise that I don't hold shot placement as paramount, even though if you've read the thread you know I do. I've never said it's impossible to drop someone with a .22.
I suppose the difference in rimfire and centerfire initiation doesn't mean much to you either, which I find odd. I think reliability is pretty important in self-defense, don't you?
Whatever. I'll restate my main point in that I see no reason for any average sized man to opt for a .22LR as a primary weapon. If greater recoil is really too much for you to shoot effectively then maybe it's time to invest in a Dobermann.