qft. Granted, the software DOESN'T do what it's supposed to (at least, not as well as it could), but it works well enough for stereo headphones to work fine in games. Besides, "5.1 headphones" don't do what they're supposed to either, and decent stereo headphones will work perfectly with surround sound processors (and sound good with music).Aren't the 5.1 headphones really just a gimmick? You only have two ears, so a pair of standard headphones with a decent gaming soundcard like an Audigy (configured for headphone use, of course) ought to be able to give you perfect surround sound if the software is doing what it is supposed to in terms of sonic imaging. I'd forget the Zalmans and either go with some Senns or some Grado SR-60 headphones. I personally lean towards the Grados just because I like their old school looks. They've got personality.
Originally posted by: 0roo0roo
nothing beats the 497 at 39 dollars. only grado 60 in its normal price range of up to 80ish and higher really. its generally known the next jump in quality requires quite a huge jump in price. plus the 497 comes with a nice detachable cord on both ends and is very long ..great for pc use.
39 at amazon right now
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B000065BPC/qid=1119788467
lucky you
i am cool as ice, you gotta try harder to piss me off your reply seemed somewhat offensive, but thats not to say i hold a grudge or anythingCalm down, I'm not trying to "enlighten" a member who is obviously better than I am (as evidenced by the fact that they have contributed so many more posts!).
at least i tried to keep my rants and replies short (before you started quoting word for word, giving me an impression that you are here to argue) and combined it in few replies editting my post. try not to bump it too many times if not necessary."Stop hijacking the thread", you say, following that with three paragraphs of argument.
nope, you dont quite seem to get it yet. your point was smiley does not change the meaning, which i never questioned or argued against. what i said instead, was it changes the tone of the voice the messages are written. in contrast to my smiley which was my attempt to hint that i was saying my last sentence in a teasing way, yours only came way after the whole smiley argument started, and thus comes my accusation of "trying to cover it up after the whole thing is over".I attempted to point out that a smiley does not change the basic meaning, then you rambled on for several paragraphs while agreeing with my point. Sheesh.
you are probably right on that, but your reply coming just a 3 posts below mine seems to go directly against my lighthearted tease. that combined with your strongly opinonated "trust me" type of reply, seemed somewhat assertive.I had the probably in there to imply that there ARE those who wouldn't on these forums ('probably' doesn't mean the same thing as 'definitely'), but that most would.
that was an obvious joke, as you could tell.HD650s
now, did you find that any offensive? perhaps capitalizing NEVER was unneeded, but i was careful enough choose the word "for me", not for everyone.why is that? i am a poor college student and still using hd-650/ppx3. i would NEVER trade my rig for any super computer. music >> FPS for me.
why settle with R-10, you could always go with orpheus
hd650 is cream of the crop as far as "consumer grade" goes and doesnt cost a thousand with a very decent amp. realistically, it does cost you a fortune. but what irks me is "those who can would probably rather buy a new high-end computer". if one knows enough about good headphone rig, he would be a damned fool to give it up for some pansy FPS game
now, maybe thats just the way you like to post things.. but was such a enormous hyperbole necessary, considering someone else already made a reference highly impractical suggestion questioning the logic in my reply, and i explained my standpoint on that? all you achieved there, if anything, was repeating what Muscles already said except with much more exaggeration. "better way to spend money" is subjective, and i could argue spending couple hundred extra on ergonomics of LCDs is not a very wise choice. but thats totally beside the point, i wasnt trying to tell people how to spend their hard earned money.Cream of the crop as far as "consumer grade" goes isn't really cream of the crop.
I'd rather have an HE90/HEV90 (or HE60+somethingelse) than a high-end computer, but do you REALLY think most people on these forums agree with us? If so, run a poll. The results would surprise you.
I'd also rather have a $8k speaker rig than an HE90/HEV90. I'd take a similarly priced used car, too. Most of us DO have better things to spend our money on.
The Grado SR60 is only $69 from a decent retailer, actually, and if you shop around it can be as low as $60. It's not necessarily better than the 497, though, so the HD497 stands as a great value.nothing beats the 497 at 39 dollars. only grado 60 in its normal price range of up to 80ish and higher really.
Err... that implies that my replies have been long and that I've bumped the topic several times, neither of which are true (with post length in relation to you, at least). Did you mean to imply that, or was it accidental?at least i tried to keep my rants and replies short (before you started quoting word for word, giving me an impression that you are here to argue) and combined it in few replies editting my post. try not to bump it too many times if not necessary.
Right, it does change the tone. No argument here. But changing the tone for the statement that people would be fools to pick high-end rigs over high-end headphones just says that you mean the same thing in a lighthearted-but-still-truthful manner. My objection is partly to your reaction afterwards, which consisted solely of you asking me if I knew what a smiley meant. I did, which is why I saw that you still at least BELIEVED as you did (although obviously you didn't actually think people who bought $2k rigs instead of $2k headphones were fools).nope, you dont quite seem to get it yet. your point was smiley does not change the meaning, which i never questioned or argued against. what i said instead, was it changes the tone of the voice the messages are written. in contrast to my smiley which was my attempt to hint that i was saying my last sentence in a teasing way, yours only came way after the whole smiley argument started, and thus comes my accusation of "trying to cover it up after the whole thing is over".
And your posts coming just 1 or 2 below mine, combined with the length of the replies, makes them seem somewhat assertive.you are probably right on that, but your reply coming just a 3 posts below mine seems to go directly against my lighthearted tease. that combined with your strongly opinonated "trust me" type of reply, seemed somewhat assertive.
HD650s aren't a jokethat was an obvious joke, as you could tell.
Uh... where's the hyperbole? $8k is a pretty accurate price for the HE90/HEV90, maybe even a little on the low side. If you're referring to the headphone itself, it really is just "the best," the "cream of the crop," no exaggeration involved there. Remember, the OP originally said that he wanted the best out there, and the HE90 is that.now, maybe thats just the way you like to post things.. but was such a enormous hyperbole necessary, considering someone else already made a reference highly impractical suggestion questioning the logic in my reply, and i explained my standpoint on that? all you achieved there, if anything, was repeating what Muscles already said except with much more exaggeration. "better way to spend money" is subjective, and i could argue spending couple hundred extra on ergonomics of LCDs is not a very wise choice. but thats totally beside the point, i wasnt trying to tell people how to spend their hard earned money.
You seem to be somewhat confused on the definition of agreement. Two parties don't have to actively get together and say "I agree" for them to agree with each other; if they share the same views on something, they are said to agree on that (or be in agreement, whichever).to sum it up... we werent talking about the same aspect of the smiley use, so your claim of me agreeing with you on that is clearly false. i will stop agruing about it, but just let me know why you started out getting so defensive with such a cynical reply.
Generalizations are extremely dangerous. Some Sony headphones are better than some Sennheiser headphones, some Sony headphones are worse than some Sennheiser headphones. The only case where you can go on manufacturer is Grado, because all modern Grados have a similar sound signature.Sony headphones are so much better than Sennheiser.. either Sony or Grado would get my vote.
The Grado SR60 is only $69 from a decent retailer, actually, and if you shop around it can be as low as $60. It's not necessarily better than the 497, though, so the HD497 stands as a great value.
The difficulty with that comparison is that people are very unlikely to own both-- very few people own $1xx hi-fi headphones and high-end "gaming headphones." I've heard both and owned the 595 (VERY similar to the 555, only a little better across the board), but I haven't heard the Siberia for long enough to feel comfortable giving you a full comparison, and I certainly haven't heard it for long enough to want to insult happy owners.icemat siberia vs hd555 anyone?
Originally posted by: veloc1ty
icemat siberia vs hd555 anyone?