The Accord hybrid has inflated fuel economy numbers. When it comes down to it, its fuel economy is the same as the Camry Hybrid while being more expensive. Toyota knows how to make a good, reliable hybrid.
Car and Driver achieved 41 MPG in their instrumented testing of the Accord Hybrid (including acceleration and top speed tests).
They achieved 31 MPG in the Camry Hybrid. Even the non-hybrid Accord sport earned 29 MPG in their testing.
These two cars aren't even in the same league. Please pack your things and go home.
In a way you are comparing apples to oranges. The Volt, for example, is designed for those with a short commute and short daily usage. After you burn through the electric only range you are running on premium gas (to run a generator).
The Prius (regular version) is an all around commuter car. Rock solid Toyota reliability-I drive one 30k plus miles a year (60/40 highway), the only repair I've ever had to do was replace the ICE's water pump. The Prius is a light, relatively large car and will get blown around some. Not so much that an observant driver can't easily handle, but a condition you have to stay on top on windy days.
The C-Max is substantially larger than the regular Prius, more comparable to the Prius-V. Lower mileage than the regular Prius but fine. Ford managed to shoot themselves in foot repeatedly in rolling out the car by (a) lying about its mileage and (b) saddling it with what I and many see as an over complicated, buggy infotainment system. Finally, when I was researching buying one I ran across several complaints on the net that the C-Max over-reported its gas mileage, that pencil and paper calculations consistently resulted in several MPG less.
I was impressed with space of the C-Max though. If you find one comparably priced to a regular Prius (same year, mileage, etc) I'd probably go for that. But since I tend to drive cars into the ground I generally could car less about resale value.
So looking at used prices, curiously, the C-Max Energi can be had for significantly cheaper than the regular C-Max.
I think this is why:
That's pretty darn annoying to lose that much trunk space + not having a spare tire. Still, even with that, it is more spacious than a Volt.
I wonder if it is possible that whenever the battery loses too much capacity, if it is possible to simply remove the entire thing completely and get the trunk space back?
In a way you are comparing apples to oranges. The Volt, for example, is designed for those with a short commute and short daily usage. After you burn through the electric only range you are running on premium gas (to run a generator).
The Prius (regular version) is an all around commuter car. Rock solid Toyota reliability-I drive one 30k plus miles a year (60/40 highway), the only repair I've ever had to do was replace the ICE's water pump. The Prius is a light, relatively large car and will get blown around some. Not so much that an observant driver can't easily handle, but a condition you have to stay on top on windy days.
The C-Max is substantially larger than the regular Prius, more comparable to the Prius-V. Lower mileage than the regular Prius but fine. Ford managed to shoot themselves in foot repeatedly in rolling out the car by (a) lying about its mileage and (b) saddling it with what I and many see as an over complicated, buggy infotainment system. Finally, when I was researching buying one I ran across several complaints on the net that the C-Max over-reported its gas mileage, that pencil and paper calculations consistently resulted in several MPG less.
I was impressed with space of the C-Max though. If you find one comparably priced to a regular Prius (same year, mileage, etc) I'd probably go for that. But since I tend to drive cars into the ground I generally could car less about resale value.
That's technically possible on mild hybrids (like Honda's Civic hybrid and Insight), but vehicles like the Prius and Accord hybrid will not run without the hybrid system.
I mean, is it possible to "downgrade" it to the same battery as a std c-max, instead of replacing the entire thing, when it finally dies.
After having actually been in a Volt, the amount of cabin space taken up by the battery is too much. Same for the C-Max Energi