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gramboh

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Lol. What is this average male? How do you calculate calories burnt per distance? I can walk, walk fast, jog, jog fast, run, and sprint. These all have HUGE sways in calories burnt per mile so I'm first gonna call measuring calories per distance a really bad way to calculate calorie use. Secondly, do you know many people who can run 9mph for an hour? It's not impossible, but few weekday athletes will achieve that (especially if they're not running specialists). I'd also like to see somebody maintain ~2min per 500m for an hour on the erg. I know that you CAN burn over 900 calories per hour, but it's not very common that the average athlete does (again, unless it's a trained endurance athlete).

Seriously, can people pull 2min/500M for an hour? I'd like to see it. The thought of rowing for an hour is scary to me.
 

gar655

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Actually in the C2 world 2min pace for 500 meters for an hour is middle if the road. I'm 47, ltw, 165lbs or less, row 3 times per week and can do 2:03 for an hour, faster if I rested for it and really pushed it. I'm FAR from elite, morw like just average. Before my knee injury one of my bi-weekly training runs were 1 hour at 6:45 to 6:30 pace. Again nothing better than middle of the road aerobic performance and I'm old.
 

gramboh

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Actually in the C2 world 2min pace for 500 meters for an hour is middle if the road. I'm 47, ltw, 165lbs or less, row 3 times per week and can do 2:03 for an hour, faster if I rested for it and really pushed it. I'm FAR from elite, morw like just average. Before my knee injury one of my bi-weekly training runs were 1 hour at 6:45 to 6:30 pace. Again nothing better than middle of the road aerobic performance and I'm old.

Damn, did not realize that, very impressive. I looked on the C2 records site and the only 1 hour event I see is team?

When you say 6:45 to 6:30, that is an hour of rowing at 6:30/45 per 2km pace? I'm a complete newb with the C2, have only started using it, my 2K is 7:37 lol.
 

gar655

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Damn, did not realize that, very impressive. I looked on the C2 records site and the only 1 hour event I see is team?

When you say 6:45 to 6:30, that is an hour of rowing at 6:30/45 per 2km pace? I'm a complete newb with the C2, have only started using it, my 2K is 7:37 lol.

The 6:45-6:30 was running pace per mile. My C2 2K is about 7:15. Again not very impressive. 15K in an hour is 2:00/500m pace. I can't quite hit that yet. I'm spending a little more time cycling and use the C2 as crosstraining.

Here's a link to the 09 60min online rankings for male ltwt, 40-49
http://www.concept2.com/sranking03/get_wrankings.asp

Gene
 

edcarman

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Come to think of it, do they make heart rate sensors that I could use?
There're quite a few cheap options options available that can record HR, speed and distance for a ride. The basic Polar CS series monitors are one option. They get a bit more expensive if you want to do things like measure altitude or download the data to a PC for analysis.

If you're riding indoors, I'd strongly advise you get a fairly beefy fan to cool you. Even in cool basement you'll quickly be sweating buckets without some kind of airflow. Also consider setting up a PC or DVD player to watch movies/series etc. to alleviate boredom.

I'd also like to see somebody maintain ~2min per 500m for an hour on the erg.
2:06/500m for an hour should be fairly easy to achieve for someone who is reasonably fit and has good technique (the latter is critical). The faster rowers in our club when I was at university were able to hold about 1:50/500m for their weekly hour session.

The C2 calorie calculation assumes the rower is a 175lb male. You can see the actual formula used in the link below under 'How are calories burned calculated?':
http://www.concept2.com/us/service/monitors/pm3/howtouse.asp

Calorie consumption during cycling is roughly equal to 1Cal for every 1kJ that reaches the wheels. To burn 900 Calories in an hour would need 900kJ of work or an average power of 250 Watts.
250 Watts is roughly the 60min time-trial pace that a fair (Cat 5), 80kg, male cyclist could achieve. A slightly fitter cyclist could easily hit 900 Cal/hr without hitting this threshold intensity. An elite cyclist probably wouldn't even be sweating.
 

Red Squirrel

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There're quite a few cheap options options available that can record HR, speed and distance for a ride. The basic Polar CS series monitors are one option. They get a bit more expensive if you want to do things like measure altitude or download the data to a PC for analysis.

If you're riding indoors, I'd strongly advise you get a fairly beefy fan to cool you. Even in cool basement you'll quickly be sweating buckets without some kind of airflow. Also consider setting up a PC or DVD player to watch movies/series etc. to alleviate boredom.


Yeah for sure, I have a big industrial fan that sounds like a jet engine, I could just open the basement window and point the fan at me. Will be effective in winter anyway... maybe less in summer but in summer I can just go for a real bike ride (more or less... it rains like 95% of the time here).
 
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