Best martial art?

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I'm sure the school makes a major difference, but I still question TKD...your instructor may be able to do "four spinning back kicks" very quickly, but on the other hand somebody else might be able to take him to the ground very quickly.

Other than movies I am not really convinced that these funky kicks are at all useful in real-life. The only time I've seen any spinning kicks - such as actually turning your back to your opponent for a split second - pulled off is in heavily restricted competition... because if your opponent isn't playing by the rules you might as well forget that stuff because by the time you turn around to try and deliver your kick the guy is on you or grabbing your leg and tripping you up.

I don't mean to try and kill my point but the less practical time spent doing as-close-to-real-life-as-possible training, the less abilities one will have if they are ever in a real-life fight. Practicing forms for instance - why? Maybe discipline, or balance or something but honestly that time could be better spent.

I know that they may be intended as practice but realistically nobody in the world can take the most complex and slow, difficult to execute kicks, and actually use them in a genuine fight against a competent competitor.

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That said I'm willing to bet that the best practical training anybody can have is by joining a small tight-knit school of adults who are willing to go hard and are all there not for "excercise" or "fun", but with the primary goal of being capable in a fight.

 

[eia430]

mustangsvt, you said..

"dang it you just "big-man-smak" ed yourself, drop it already. and your point doesnt make much sense now that u talk about studying his life style for months?! huh?? Please Tell us what Martial Arts you have learned and to what degree? sounds more like you are interested in terrorism. drop it, he was just joking, and knowing he was joking you post that? .... errr"

Was my last post not clear enough? perhaps you need to read it again. I have already dropped the issue. But I did reply to his other posts concerning other issues and he requested carification and so I did that. I am not interested in terrorism, I was making a point that there are a countless ways to deal with an enemy, bigmansmak is one of the least effective. Beyond that someone using the bigmansmak approach can be dealt with very quickly with zero use of violence. I elaborated on studying the opponent to elaborate on how someone that you tried to use bigmansmak on could deal with that person. How easy it is to neutralize that approach then just take your time in dealing with the person if that is the only option. This is quite different from terroism. Terrorism involves using violence as a means of intimidation to get a desired response, what I elaborated on had nothing to do with intimidation or terrorism. As for my experiences in martial arts, I've bounced around with various schools and styles TKD, Akido etc before settleing with southern Dragon Style Gung fu. I trained for 2 years before job/school made it an impossibility.

To address other posts here, one about high kicks... I love high kicks, they can be neutralized in one easy motion... simply move towards the kicker. This will render the high kick totaly useless and presents you with every option. Your opponent in the mean while will see his high kick do nothing and there you are right next to him and he's on one leg. I'd hate to be him at that point. Totaly commited attacks like high kicks can also leave you totaly open if it does not connect. SDS does not use high kicks at all, in fact our kicks are almost never higher than waist level. I'm sure others could point out various weaknesses in my style (I know I can) There is no "best" style... just pick one and be very good at it. The rest depends on how well you cope with the different curve balls that your opponent will throw at you.

 

[MustangSVT]

eia u said

"It will be decided after weeks if not months of studying your life and your patterns. Bigmansmak mentality just gives more options and makes you more vulnrable."

and talked about disgndawg threatening your family? .... damn the original question was "best martial art?" and disgndawg did not threaten you did he. And while he is wrong on the part that any trained(correctly) martial artist can easily stop that "Big-man-smak", what is your point on studying his life and patterns? so if he is about to "big-man-smak" you, (just a regular punch i guess" ,you'll tell him to hold for a week or two until u study upon him so u can attack his weakness?.

drop it, you are not even making sense anymore.

you also said "But I did reply to his other posts concerning other issues and he requested carification and so I did that."

to his comments on laughing at you?. we all know that this designdawg never even got involved in a fist fight in real life. What is your long post on studying his life patterns? dawg doesnt even have point anymore and there is no point trying to make sense out of that non sense he said.

ill say it again. Drop it.

 

[TAsunder]

What exactly makes you think Tyson is a fighter first? He's not even a great boxer anymore, relative to the competition. I would imagine that Roy Jones Jr, after some training and weight gaining, could give him quite a good boxing match. He'd probably lose, but the point is that Tyson is not the monster he once was.

 

[eia430]

mustang, you said..

"and talked about disgndawg threatening your family? .... damn the original question was "best martial art?" and disgndawg did not threaten you did he. And while he is wrong on the part that any trained(correctly) martial artist can easily stop that "Big-man-smak", what is your point on studying his life and patterns? so if he is about to "big-man-smak" you, (just a regular punch i guess" ,you'll tell him to hold for a week or two until u study upon him so u can attack his weakness?."

Where did I say that designdog was threatening my family? You must learn to understand the meaning of "if" when used in a sentence. Go and read over my posts to/from designdog again and make sure you understand them.

If he were to "big-man-smak" me or try to what would my options be? The obvious answer would be to answer that with a physical match. That would require more risk, and more effort than the less obvious answer. That being to talk to him and cower if you must if it serves your purpose. Then it stops there. IF (pay attention now) IF your opponent has made threats to your family and has made it plain that it does not end there then you must take steps to protect them. The least amount of effort and risk would be to have others do that for you (call police). If that is not an option (it is almost always the best option here in the U.S. not so in other countries). Then you must weigh your other alternatives, and that is done through study of your opponent his life, patterns, and the situation in general. Then you use your greatest strength to his greatest weakness whatever those may be.

The point I was making is that bigmansmak gets you nowhere. It can be neutralized with very little risk or effort and where does that leave you? It leaves you with an enemy. Bigmansmak accomplishes nothing but feed a false sense of security and provide a momentary ego boost. At the heavy cost of making an enemy.

 

[eia430]

tasunder, Tyson is willing to do whatever it takes to win without qualms to ethics. That is what makes him a fighter first. He will bite, gouge (if he could) do whatever it takes to win. He is a very formidable opponent boxing or otherwise. Don't get me wrong I hate the guy, I think he's the lowest level of street scum around. But I will not underestimate him, if I absolutely had to fight him you can bet you bottom dollar it will not be in a physical match. Doing so would be very fool hardy and most likely end up with me dead. Boxing is very under rated but it is a style that is forged in the heat of battle, it should be very respected. The only limitations that I see to boxing is the "rules" having no flexebility beyond battle above the waist. If anybody thinks otherwise just go into any boxing hall (training center) and use whatever style you have against a boxer there. You will get plenty of guys wanting to show you what boxing is all about.

 

[MustangSVT]

lol... IF you threaten me i'll study your every move for about a year and If you threaten my family i would.... err nevermind i can't compete against nonsense . so now you argue against If situtations (that u made), Dawg didnt even bring up? you should run for politics.

 

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eia430

I agree with you that Tyson is pure scum - I wouldn't compete with him physically either...but if it was a battle of wits I think it safe to say that anybody on this board could outwit him even after suffering major brain trauma and being jacked up on valium.

 

[eia430]

mustang, IF situations are commonly used when making a point about a subject or topic. Of course I will refer to situtations that I put up if I'm trying to explain a point that I made. You just don't have the proper reading skills to understand posts then pawn off the problem on me as if it's somehow my fault. Notice that you are the ONLY ONE that did not understand that I had already dropped this subject, even designdog understood that I had dropped it already. You were the only one clueless enough not to get it the first time out. My very NEXT POST after my initial post to designdog I had already dropped the whole matter. After replying (common courtesy) to some points and carifications that design dog made I dropped the subject with the statement. "thinking you (designdog) were serious was a mistake on my part" How could that not be clear to you? how could you go and ramble on with your tirade after seeing that? Designdog picked it up the first time out, you need to brush up on your english language skills.

 

[eia430]

skoorb, pretty funny, no I will never accuse tyson of being a mental giant either. But he does have the proper skill, viciousness and physical prowess to be very good in a very narrow field. He will pummel the living daylights one way or another out of most people out there. In that one narrow field I will make sure to avoid challenging him at all costs.

 

[MustangSVT]

lol.. keep on talking. you sure know how to talk on and on and on... yeah ill just walk away. dont need to step on sh`it twice to make sure its sh`it.

 

[eia430]

mustang, can't address the issues can you? Youre a waste of time anyway, trying to explain things to you would be like talking to a doorknob. I'll just be done with this by fileing you as someone too stupid to know how stupid they really are.

 

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I'd personally like to thank eia430 and MustangSVT for providing such quality entertainment! Bravo fellas, keep up the good work!

Oh, and a "Big-mann-smak" goes out to DesignDawg !!!