Best Military Movie

[IronWing]

Kelly's Heroes

Francis in the Navy

Patton

 

[cw42]

I was just watching BHD in 1080i the other day. MMMMMM, that got my vote.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Saving Private Ryan. The story may have been cheesy but the battles left me shell shocked for a full day after watching it.

The story wasn't cheesy at all. In fact, the message the story gives was the most significant of any war movie ever made.

Yeah considering a similar event (4 brothers serving on a single ship that was destroyed), left parents with no kids, enacted one of the most important policies in WW2.

That's not the central message of the film.

It really surprises me that so many people miss it.

Never said it was the central message, I'm just saying thats what the movie was loosely based around..

But what is the central message oh wise one? :roll:

No need to roll your eyes. I'm not trying to act superior here.

The central message of SPR is that we are all Private Ryan. Ryan was just a euphemism for all of us. We all need to "earn this."

To me the central message was that war is hell. Unorganized chaos with a bunch of scared kids fighting for their lives. Upham represented the coward in all of us, a pacifist that horrors of war changed in to to a soldier. The brutality and blood in the movie which showed people getting mowed down like a Quake deathmatch battle was effective in showing the grotesque nature of war

 

[xSauronx]

saving private ryan. i still remember seeing it when i came out in theatres, i think i was 15.

a bridge too far is a close second, for me.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Saving Private Ryan. The story may have been cheesy but the battles left me shell shocked for a full day after watching it.

The story wasn't cheesy at all. In fact, the message the story gives was the most significant of any war movie ever made.

I've seen the film 4 or 5 times.. Don't get me wrong I still get tears in my eyes every single time I watch it, and still get goosebumps when Private Upham transforms himself from a coward to a soldier, but some parts in the middle where they are looking for Ryan dragged a bit..

Again, this movie probably ranks as one of my all time favorites, but this movie did have some flaws.

That "dragging" was some of the best character development in the history of film.

I'm not saying that the entire middle dragged, the scene where Ryan was talking about his family life back home when he then paused and realized that his brothers were dead was incredible..

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Saving Private Ryan. The story may have been cheesy but the battles left me shell shocked for a full day after watching it.

The story wasn't cheesy at all. In fact, the message the story gives was the most significant of any war movie ever made.

Yeah considering a similar event (4 brothers serving on a single ship that was destroyed), left parents with no kids, enacted one of the most important policies in WW2.

That's not the central message of the film.

It really surprises me that so many people miss it.

Never said it was the central message, I'm just saying thats what the movie was loosely based around..

But what is the central message oh wise one? :roll:

No need to roll your eyes. I'm not trying to act superior here.

The central message of SPR is that we are all Private Ryan. Ryan was just a euphemism for all of us. We all need to "earn this."

To me the central message was that war is hell. Unorganized chaos with a bunch of scared kids fighting for their lives. Upham represented the coward in all of us, a pacifist that horrors of war changed in to to a soldier. The brutality and blood in the movie which showed people getting mowed down like a Quake deathmatch battle was effective in showing the grotesque nature of war

No. Those are all peripheral messages. The story is bookended by it's central message... that of Private Ryan unsure if he has "earned this."

It's a common theme among WWII vets, my father included. They want to know what we are going to do with the freedom and security they fought and so many died for.

We are all Private Ryan. We all need to "Earn this."

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Saving Private Ryan. The story may have been cheesy but the battles left me shell shocked for a full day after watching it.

The story wasn't cheesy at all. In fact, the message the story gives was the most significant of any war movie ever made.

I've seen the film 4 or 5 times.. Don't get me wrong I still get tears in my eyes every single time I watch it, and still get goosebumps when Private Upham transforms himself from a coward to a soldier, but some parts in the middle where they are looking for Ryan dragged a bit..

Again, this movie probably ranks as one of my all time favorites, but this movie did have some flaws.

That "dragging" was some of the best character development in the history of film.

I'm not saying that the entire middle dragged, the scene where Ryan was talking about his family life back home when he then paused and realized that his brothers were dead was incredible..

I completely agree. The film is one of the rare few in which you feel you know each character as well as their comrades do.

 

[Bumrush99]

Originally posted by: Amused

No. Those are all peripheral messages. The story is bookended by it's central message... that of Private Ryan unsure if he has "earned this."

It's a common theme among WWII vets, my father included. They want to know what we are going to do with the freedom and security they fought and so many died for.

Well, growing up during a time of relative peace, the message that I got from the movie was that these soldiers went through hell to protect us.. That every single one of them deserved my respect. I found it incredible that people could survive that type of emotional turbulence and come back home to start families and live a prosperous life. The events that they witnessed, the deaths of so many friends and honorable people that helped save their lives must have taken a tremendous toll. The thing that bothered me the most was the Tom Hanks character. How many people like him fought in wars? True heroes that that died on the battlefield, leaving family members behind?? People that never got the recognition they deserved, only noted as another listed casualty. How many real stories like the fictional one in the movie really happened? Any if nobody is left to give you that credit, does it still count?

 

[Jadow]

I like the old classics that were made back when they had all kinds of surplus WW2 hardware. The Longest Day, Battle of the Bulge, Sands of Iwo Jima

 

[Jadow]

If it doesn't have Henry Fonda or John Wayne, it's not a WW2 movie.

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99

Originally posted by: Amused

No. Those are all peripheral messages. The story is bookended by it's central message... that of Private Ryan unsure if he has "earned this."

It's a common theme among WWII vets, my father included. They want to know what we are going to do with the freedom and security they fought and so many died for.

Well, growing up during a time of relative peace, the message that I got from the movie was that these soldiers went through hell to protect us.. That every single one of them deserved my respect. I found it incredible that people could survive that type of emotional turbulence and come back home to start families and live a prosperous life. The events that they witnessed, the deaths of so many friends and honorable people that helped save their lives must have taken a tremendous toll. The thing that bothered me the most was the Tom Hanks character. How many people like him fought in wars? True heroes that that died on the battlefield, leaving family members behind?? People that never got the recognition they deserved, only noted as another listed casualty. How many real stories like the fictional one in the movie really happened? Any if nobody is left to give you that credit, does it still count?

Agreed. 100%.

This is why the ones who came back will be the first to tell you the real heroes never returned.

If you meet and talk to people of that generation, especially WWII vets, you will quickly find that they believe their sacrifices have to be earned by those they saved.

My father tried over and over to teach me this... and it took a movie decades after his death to drive it home.

 

[BUTCH1]

Wow, so many good movies listed, My favorite is "The enemy below"

 

[compman25]

Kelly's Heroes

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: compman25
Kelly's Heroes

Great movie. One of my favorites.

 

[eLiu]

Originally posted by: Bumrush99
Saving Private Ryan. The story may have been cheesy but the battles left me shell shocked for a full day after watching it.

FYI the story was based on fact Loosely, but still there was a similar situation with brothers/rescue. See "D-Day" by Steven Ambrose (at least I think that was the title.)

 

[GasX]

Stalingrad
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[BUTCH1]

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: compman25
Kelly's Heroes

Great movie. One of my favorites.

Gotta love the scene were the tell the Tiger tank captain what he's been guarding, then
cuts quickly to the muzzle flash and door being blown apart..

 

[Amused]

Originally posted by: BUTCH1

Originally posted by: Amused

Originally posted by: compman25
Kelly's Heroes

Great movie. One of my favorites.

Gotta love the scene were the tell the Tiger tank captain what he's been guarding, then
cuts quickly to the muzzle flash and door being blown apart..

Oh, absolutely. Oddball is hilarious and so is Crapgame.

Kelly's reactions to Oddball are so subtle, yet hilariously perfect.

 

[EXman]

Big Red One -Lee Marvin is the genre!

 

[NoShangriLa]

Full Metal Jacket
Platoon
Das Boot
Braveheart
Ben Hur
The Bridge Over River Kwai
Schindler's List

 

[Balt]

Force 10 from Navarone.









Just kidding, I chose Patton.

 

[iversonyin]

Glory and Saving Private Ryan

 

[Sukhoi]

Blasphemy, you don't have Kelly's heroes on the list!

 

[Flyback]

Thin Red Line gets my vote. Unfortunately it is often overlooked as just a name-dropping fest because it has so many damn famous actors in it.

Black Hawk Down has greatest replay value IMO. I can watch it over and over. Sunday afternoons or Friday beer nights.

I tried to like Saving Private Ryan but failed to do so. I've seen it about 5-6 times and can't find anything that truly gets me interested.

 

[b0mbrman]

Originally posted by: JoeFahey

Originally posted by: us3rnotfound

Originally posted by: JoeFahey

Originally posted by: us3rnotfound
I pick Full Metal Jacket because IMO it is the most realistic.

You fought in Vietnam? Cool

no

Oh...Well then how do you know that it is realistic?

Doh~!