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Arkaign

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Of the tens of people I know that have had Hondas, I haven't seen a single one last more than 30k miles without munching its engine. I've seen trannies go, obviously CVs go, and lots of stupid little problems that lead to more problems when you try to fix them. If you get parts from the dealership, they're much lower quality than the original OEM. A lot of them are just completely useless. A friend ate both of his insanely terribly made wheel wells when they touched his tires. Just tore right off the car, as expected. The replacements were so thin that I couldn't believe it. Right from Honda, stamped Honda, and totally worthless crap. He ended up driving the car without wheel wells because the replacements couldn't handle 65mph on the highway. There are just too many horror stories to list.

The best was this same friend and this same car. Three engines, three weeks, less than one thousand miles. Original Honda engines, installed by the Honda dealership. F that S. I'll never drop a dime on them. My friend paid for all 3 and the installs, they said it wasn't their fault because a kid that worked there said they saw him beating on the car. I told him to sue them, but he didn't, fearing he'd just lose when the kid said that again in court.


Also, they cost too much and the parts are very expensive, even though they are literally the worst I've ever seen.

Jesus, you must live in some evil alternate universe. The only major Hondas issues that I know of are the infamous auto tranny failures of the ~'99-~03 era, of which my brother suffered from (TL-S), but they replaced it out of warranty at no charge. I've known tons of people (common cars of course) that have run Hondas with zero issues or complaints. USAF buddy has an original ('01?) S2000 that is on the original drivetrain at 190k hard-earned miles, for example. How else to explain all the old '80s Hondas we see on the roads all the time
 

darom

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Best and reliable: Honda Accord 1996 EX, auto. No issues, the car never let me down. The only major work done to this car were the front brake discs replacement and pads. Sure, no speed rocket or extra thrills. It was designed to move my family around and it did well. My step son totaled it later and I wish I kept it.

Fun: 1998 Camaro Z28 with a mild cam and heads/exhaust etc. It was nicely tuned, dynoed 397hp, idled at 800 and sucked a lot of gas. My only regret was to replace the exhaust, the loud drone drove me nuts on the freeway.

Worst: 1986 Mazda rx-7 n/a auto - I bought it in WI and drove it all way down to CA. The p.o.s. apex seals were going south causing really hard to start conditions. On the way back, I got stuck in Colorado Springs - I couldn't start the engine, it was flooded and I knew nothing about little tricks to start it. When AAA truck finally managed to jump start me with a dead battery, I left a huge cloud of oil smoke behind. Later, I would just inject oil directly into combustion chamber to give me compression. My co-workers hated those days when the garage structure would be covered with white tear causing smoke. The a/c died on the 6th day after the purchase, I spent over $300 trying to pass smog in CA until I got a permit to drive it from the state referee. I hated that car with the passion. Driving it in 100F weather here was quite an experience. Finally the engine seized up and I had to part it out.

After this, I got:
Somewhat fun car to drive: 1988 Mazda rx-7 Tii, 5-speed, turbo version of the above model, with good compression numbers, working a/c and a great paint. I felt like I was driving a Caddy after that 1986 fiasco. The lack of torque at low RPMs was disappointing. For a small engine I was getting only 18 mpgs. I regret selling it to finance my 1967 Camaro restoration project. I guess in the back of my mind I always feared the rotary engine apex seals potential failure.

I drive a 2004 Honda Accord EX, 5-speed now and am hopeful that it will be as reliable as my 1996. Again, it is slow, but has excellent mpgs with a working a/c. So far so good (knocking on the wood)...
 

TwinsenTacquito

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Jesus, you must live in some evil alternate universe. The only major Hondas issues that I know of are the infamous auto tranny failures of the ~'99-~03 era, of which my brother suffered from (TL-S), but they replaced it out of warranty at no charge. I've known tons of people (common cars of course) that have run Hondas with zero issues or complaints. USAF buddy has an original ('01?) S2000 that is on the original drivetrain at 190k hard-earned miles, for example. How else to explain all the old '80s Hondas we see on the roads all the time


I know nothing of their automatic trannies or their failures. I drove an automatic accord one time. It was as horrible of a nightmare as every other time I drove an automatic.

I hear all these stories about people that have reliable Hondas, but I've never seen it first hand. My friend that had those engines all blow in three weeks still swears that Honda is super reliable. I mean, never has he had an engine last 2 years in one, but they're sooo reliable! I can't say I have a friend with a Honda that hasn't had the engine blow, except people I know that drive really slow. In their cases, they should last forever.
 

InflatableBuddha

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I know nothing of their automatic trannies or their failures. I drove an automatic accord one time. It was as horrible of a nightmare as every other time I drove an automatic.

I hear all these stories about people that have reliable Hondas, but I've never seen it first hand. My friend that had those engines all blow in three weeks still swears that Honda is super reliable. I mean, never has he had an engine last 2 years in one, but they're sooo reliable! I can't say I have a friend with a Honda that hasn't had the engine blow, except people I know that drive really slow. In their cases, they should last forever.

Do your friends seriously beat on their Hondas and never maintain them? I agree with most of your other picks, but I think you're really off-base here.

I personally have a 92 Accord (auto) with 141,000 km and apart from replacing the muffler, thermostat, belts and hoses etc, the only part that has failed is the ABS pump. Engine and tranny, interior and exterior are tip-top.

Bro has an 02 Civic SI Veloz (auto) with 130,000 km that he drives hard - no issues.

Dad has an 04 Accord EX - 50,000 km, no problems. Mom has an 03 Civic (manual) with 80,000 km - replaced a faulty instrument display but that's it.

Should I go on? My ex g/f had a 99 Civic EX auto, my grandma drives a 98 Civic EX auto, bro's g/f has an 06 Civic auto...none have complained of problems.

I'm really curious what the issues are.
 

RU482

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Worst: by a large margin, without a doubt...my mother in law's 98 Chevy Lumina. Utter crap. crap crap crap crap. Even the radio sucked.

Best: 95 Olds Cutlass Convertible - probably because of the timing in my life (early 20's) and the power (which was impressive at the time, that thing would jump hard when the pedal was pressed)
 

TwinsenTacquito

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No neglect, just beating. I firmly believe that their redlines are a sick joke and that those motors really shouldn't ever spin anywhere near that high. That's my only guess as to why they never last under the use of some people and last forever under the use of others.

I bet if they took the engines that redline at 8200 RPM and brought the redline to 6000RPM (yeah, I know that means they'll make zero power), they'll last forever. Take the ones that red at 6500RPM and lower them 1000rpm too. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the designs. There might be bad materials, but I've never taken a look at a seized Honda motor beyond pulling a piston for the wall of shame. I just think that in order for them to post power numbers that are competitive, they have to say the motors can spin faster than they ever should.
 
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ShawnD1

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Worst:
1990 Mercury Topaz. Where do I start? The anemic 95ish HP engine? The three speed automatic? Back seat with no leg room? The knobby things for the wipers? The ridiculous torque steer? It was actually amazing, considering the complete lack of power, but when you managed to get the engine going that thing would pull so hard to the right I thought there was something wrong with the car.
Holy shit, mein did this too. It was a 1992 Ford Tempo GL. It pulled hard to the right. I thought maybe I did something to fuck it up somehow.
It was incredibly comfortable car to drive, but it was incredibly dangerous because the suspension was so weak. The car would go into a skid if taking a corner faster than 20 mph on a nicely paved dry road on a hot summer day.


I don't know what's up with all the Corolla hate. I have a 2010 Corolla and I'm the only person who ever complains about how annoying the car is. My friends think it's a very comfortable ride. At one point I had both of my parents in the back seat and they thought it had plenty of room back there as well.
 

scott916

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Best - My dad's slightly modded C6 vette. Hit 1.3g on the onboard accelerometer in the Santa Cruz mountains with the top down and it was rock solid. That car is a blast. Joesmoke and I later took it to 140 on a back road... also with the top down.

Worst - By FAR, my old boss' late 90's Kia Sportage. I can't fucking believe these things even sold, most horrible piece of shit I've ever laid my hands on.
 

hanoverphist

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i havent had theh chance to drive many luxury cars in my days, but my dodge truck i have now is currently the most comfy ride ive owned. i like it much better than any ive gotten to drive through work and family. worst? the pt cruiser rental i had was the worst by far. close second would be a colorado my work makes me drive on occasion. the worst ever car ive had the pleasure of driving was an auction pick up when i briefly worked at a small used car lot here in mesa. i ended up driving a chevy chevette from holbrook back to the lot. it had been lowered and "customized" so poorly that every time i put on the brakes the front end would shake. it was pretty unnerving on those mountain curve roads. couldnt see anything out the back, and the car itself was too small for me. im 6"3" and at that time 220lbs, my head was rubbing the roof and my arm was outside the door. damn radio didnt work either, which pissed me off.

funnest ever driven was an early 70s toyota land cruiser we had on that same car lot, was a fire chiefs truck from williams, az. fully loaded, great 4X4. i had a great time using that for "deliveries" until it got sold.
 

KIAman

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Best - My dad's slightly modded C6 vette. Hit 1.3g on the onboard accelerometer in the Santa Cruz mountains with the top down and it was rock solid. That car is a blast. Joesmoke and I later took it to 140 on a back road... also with the top down.

Worst - By FAR, my old boss' late 90's Kia Sportage. I can't fucking believe these things even sold, most horrible piece of shit I've ever laid my hands on.

Ahahahahaha, I owned a 1996 KIA Sportage from 1996-2006. 10 trouble free years and almost 200,000 miles. Yeah, the interior was falling apart, the manual transmission was a POS, the 2.0L i4 engine was WAY overworked for a 4400lb car but.... Best investment of $2200 ever. Saved enough money to buy my next car with cash 10 years later (2006 BMW 330i).
 

PricklyPete

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Ahahahahaha, I owned a 1996 KIA Sportage from 1996-2006. 10 trouble free years and almost 200,000 miles. Yeah, the interior was falling apart, the manual transmission was a POS, the 2.0L i4 engine was WAY overworked for a 4400lb car but.... Best investment of $2200 ever. Saved enough money to buy my next car with cash 10 years later (2006 BMW 330i).

It only cost you $2200? For even a Kia that seems like a steal.
 

KIAman

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It only cost you $2200? For even a Kia that seems like a steal.

The people I purchased from got it for like $13,000 plus change. It was a stripped model with only an AM/FM radio and no other options at all. It had some body damage they never repaired and they claimed it had random issues they could never resolve. They owe me several favors and offered to sell me the car for what they owed on it, so I took it. I never got any of the issues they described.
 

InflatableBuddha

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No neglect, just beating. I firmly believe that their redlines are a sick joke and that those motors really shouldn't ever spin anywhere near that high. That's my only guess as to why they never last under the use of some people and last forever under the use of others.

I bet if they took the engines that redline at 8200 RPM and brought the redline to 6000RPM (yeah, I know that means they'll make zero power), they'll last forever. Take the ones that red at 6500RPM and lower them 1000rpm too. There doesn't seem to be anything wrong with the designs. There might be bad materials, but I've never taken a look at a seized Honda motor beyond pulling a piston for the wall of shame. I just think that in order for them to post power numbers that are competitive, they have to say the motors can spin faster than they ever should.

LOL, that's the whole idea of these small engines - minimal power and good fuel economy most of the time, and you only wind it up if you need acceleration.

8200 is a bit of an exaggeration though - my Accord redlines at 6200 rpm, the 6th gen Civics redline at around 6700-6800. Maybe you're talking about the SI and SIR versions?

Anyways, with the autos, you'd have to be intentionally running them in low gear, which is retarded on any car. Even when you floor it in Drive, they shift well before redline.
 

CurseTheSky

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Best: probably my current 2008 Fusion SE V6 with ~40k miles. It's not into "oh crap problem" territory yet, but it's been a pleasure to drive. I've driven other, more impressive cars briefly (a few classics, a luxury car here and there, a couple of Mustangs and a C5 Vette) but nothing really made me feel at home - probably because they weren't mine and I was afraid to beat on them.

Worst: either a '97 Taurus or a '03 Mustang V6. The Taurus was falling apart in every way possible (not mine, thank God) and the Mustang (again, not mine, THANK GOD) felt horribly underpowered and handled like a pregnant walrus. To make matters worse, the Mustang was red. Even older, crappier cars didn't feel quite as bad as those two, probably because I was expecting them to be, you know, old and crappy.
 

ShawnD1

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Anyways, with the autos, you'd have to be intentionally running them in low gear, which is retarded on any car. Even when you floor it in Drive, they shift well before redline.

My Corolla is an automatic and it goes all the way up to redline before it shifts. That's when the car is in "drive", no forced gears or anything.
 

ayabe

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I beat the snot out of my GSR for 140,000 miles and had the fuel cut increased to 8500rpm due to new cams and valve springs.

Never had a single motor related issue, only thing that ever really died was my radiator.
 

Elfear

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ShawnD1 said:
Holy shit, mein did this too. It was a 1992 Ford Tempo GL. It pulled hard to the right. I thought maybe I did something to fuck it up somehow.
It was incredibly comfortable car to drive, but it was incredibly dangerous because the suspension was so weak. The car would go into a skid if taking a corner faster than 20 mph on a nicely paved dry road on a hot summer day.

Doh. I drive a '93 Topaz now. I'd say I'd sunk to the lowest dregs of the automotive world with this car but I've also driven a mid 80's diesel Peugot (looked like Spy Hunter going down the road) and a mid 80's Fiesta.

The slowest car I ever drove was a Citroen 2CV. It was a 2-cylinder powerhouse producing a gut-wrenching 15hp.

Best/funnest car I had was a '73 Camaro with the split-bumper RS package. It had a 13:1 355 small-block that ran on avgas, 5.13 gears, and a four speed. Horrible gas mileage but that car was the perfect stoplight warrior with the deep gears out back.
 
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shortylickens

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I have only owned a handful but have rented many times and I LOVE test driving even when I cant afford it.


- BEST -

Mazda Protege 5, hatchback. 2002.
2nd car I owned. Gay as it looked, it was incredibly nice. Reasonably priced. Nice interior. Good features. Handled great. Excellent visibility. Lots of room for storage and held 4 people comfortably. Not quite as lame as all the other hatchbacks of the time. I miss it. Got nailed by a V-10 Econoline. She was only going about 10 mph but it crunched my front end up so badly I had to declare it a salvage and move on. Miss that car a lot. Given the fuel economy and low maintenance requirements I'd be mighty grateful to drive it today. But tiny cars suffer on a road full of SUV's piloted by assholes. Even though it protected my body it couldnt take abuse. Shame they dont make it anymore. I like this much better than the 3 hatchback. And its more practical than the sedan.

Kia Optima. 2004 or 5.
Whatever the super nice luxury model was back then. Rental.
Got this after I lost my Mazda. VERY nice. Just for fun I asked the Enterprise guy what sort of luxury sedans they had. They were all out of Lincolns and Cadillacs, but had a Kia Optima. I told him to eat me. He said "No, no, no, no! You have HAVE to try this. Its so nice you wont believe it." I didnt believe him. But Ridgecrest is a small town and I was in no position to argue about it. Nothing else available. Got it. Was indeed quite impressed. Very nice interior. Cool white instrument panel. Good power (I think it was the only model at the time with a big V6). Nice visibility and handling. Very comfortable. I had no idea Kia was making cars like this. Blew my mind. The lady I took to dinner was equally impressed. But I already told that story in L&R.
Probably would not buy, especially considering the latest Optima I drove was shit by comparison. Read below.

Pontiac Grand Prix. 2002 or 3.
Rental. When I went home to see my dad. Flew in. No car. I wanted something fun. It was. Got my first and only speeding ticket. Would not buy.

BMW's
In Iceland by buddy had a 1988, I forget which series. Very nice. Was surprised how awesome 80's cars could be, if they werent American. Almost got killed cuz I didnt know how to drive it.
Recently, I tested a 325 from 2004 (I think) and a 328 and 335 from more recent years. I forget which features the 325 had, it was a barebones model. But I LOVED the drive. Awesome experience. Everyone should try it. The 328 was a 2008 and in the xi series I think. Lots of nice features. Handled just a little bit better. I am also one of the few people who likes the new bodies over the old bodies. The 335 was a dream. About 70 more horsepower and a few extra features. That made me wanna live out in the sticks so I could really enjoy it. City driving is unpleasant with something so powerful. The only downside to them is the mirrors are small and all around visibility does not impress me much. I guess the idea is you will be going so fast you only worry about whats in front of you, but I'd prefer to see stuff on all 4 sides. Overall a great experience. Only downside would be owning something like that when the deep snow comes. I guess I'd have to keep the S-10 for emergencies.

Nissan Murano and Maxima. 2010.
Test drives. Didnt want to buy, just wanted to see what they were about. Awesome. For a mid-size SUV the Murano handles nicely and has lots of power. Normally these things are pussified family cars. Price was decent considering all the goodies it had. Blutooth handsfree navigation and entertainment. The rear camera was special in that if you turned the wheel, the overlays on the display would shift so as to show you how you'd be backing out. Seats the went up and down with the push of a button. Heated front and 2nd row seats, which was standard on shitty cars in Iceland but is rare for even mid-class vehicles in America. Keyless entry and ignition. Few other nice things.
The new maxima was one of the high powered types, and definitely drives much better than an average family sedan. Not quite as nice a drive as the BMW, but it has more features for the money and more stuff standard, like heated and cooled drivers seat and rear view camera. Also had the nice entertainment/navigation system. Overall was impressed with how far Nissan had come in recent years. Would have bought the Murano if I'd had a job.

Toyota Highlander Hybrid. 2010.
Same nice stuff as the Murano. And the Hybrid models dont have the issues, so it wont kill you. Only downside is they are so popular they are a slightly worse deal for the money. And the gas saved is not significant enough to justify the extra 6000 dollars.

Toyota RAV 4. 2005.
My mothers.
Yup, I said it. I like the RAV4. For a little pussy SUV its actually damn nice. Handles well and has plenty of pep (she got the V6). Decent interior and features considering how cheap it was. Not super heavy duty. She'd been rear ended twice and both times required extensive body work. BUT, it did protect her in each crash, so overall its a win. Great visibility. Only downside is like many newer, automated cars it has a tendency to do shit you dont like. Locks the doors. Cries when you dont have your seatbelt on. Headlights are ALWAYS on as soon as the key is in, and unlike my S-10 there is no way to override that. This particular model never had acceleration or brake issues so she's safe. I drive it once in a while when she needs it taken to the garage. Overall little maintenance and for a medium V6 gets excellent fuel economy. My only beef with it is its so powerful for the weight you have to be very careful when you push the gas. That sucker jumps if you dont know how to handle it. But it also makes merging on the interstate a real pleasure. Mom said she would only get rid of it for a Murano (I had her test drive one after my pleasant experience the day before).


- WORST -

Geo Tracker. 1991.
1st car I owned. Dad brought it home one day. Didnt ask me. Didnt ask mom. We were both pissed. Though for different reasons. Dad told me it was like a little Jeep. I told him to lay off the booze. BUT, it was actually somewhat nice to have in Minnesota. The 4WD actually worked properly, and the tires were more than good enough to grab the road. First thing I did was take a heat gun & razor and remove the fucking logos from the side. Car was immediately 5% less gay.
Over the years it had tons of problems. Eventually sold it to my cousin for one dollar. Was glad to be rid of it, and he didnt mind having a piece of shit.

Chevy S-10. ZR2 model. 2003.
Current vehicle. Also junk. Wanted something cheap with decent off-roading ability. All kinds of things needed fixing by the 40k point. Also hard to find parts and accessories since they switched to the Colorado. It was either that or a Nissan or Toyota. Now I know why Chevy loses its value faster than a Japanese car. Wish I had spent a little extra for one of them instead. But to be fair it has gotten me up and down the mountain safely two out of three times, so I am grateful to have it. Of course, now that I lost all interest in camping the thing is a waste. Its a fucking gas hog and doesnt accelerate like it used to. Too light in the back (like most small pickups) and it often loses traction when I need it most. I think pickups should be FWD by default. Of course that kills the turning radius. Truth be told the turning radius is shit in 2WD so I guess it doesnt matter much.
Only good thing is its much better than a Geo. Of course, thats not saying much. The handful of nice things are stuff I did myself, like the Viper alarm and remote start. Pioneer navigation and entertainment system. Those are coming out when I sell it of course. At this rate I will have to let it go for a thousand bucks to a repair guy so he can use it for parts. One nice feature is the small cab which heats up quickly. Of course thats any small pickup so again, no real advantage. After these two cars I will not be owning another GM product for a while.

Chevy Cavalier. 2000 (I think)
Drove it for two days before returning to dealer for the S-10. I didnt want another little pussymobile after my Mazda got smashed.
No need to discuss how much it sucks, I'm sure you all know about them.

Chevy Cobalt. 2004 or 5, I think.
Rental. Not nearly as bad as the Cavalier, but not great. And hideously overpriced. I look at them on lots sometimes. Can understand why a rental agency would want them, but makes no sense for someone to drive this piece of crap everyday. Feel sorry for folks when I see them on the road. Not only does it suck but they probably paid too much anyway.

Ford Mustang. 2010 or 11.
Test drive. Did NOT like for so many reasons. Mostly the fit. I'm only 5'3" and I felt cramped. Shitty visibility. Does not handle like I think a sports car should. Didnt move out like a sports car either. It was the V8, but not the GT. Kinda shitty interior considering the price.

Kia Optima. 2010 or 11.
Test Drive. Did not like at all. All the same bad stuff of a Mustang, and none of the power. Sad cuz I had that Kia Optima rental that was so much better its kinda weird.
Poor handling, crummy interior and features, especially for the money. No oomph. Amazed they even sell these things. Though I will admit it was a relatively low end model, and the other was considered their luxury line, so obviously theres a huge difference.

Saturn Outlook. 2009 or 2008.
Test drive. So crappy I may get mad just thinking about it. Shit features and interior for the money. Piss poor handling and visibility. Dealer didnt know anything about it. No wonder they went out of business. Way too expensive for what you get. I only wanted to see if they had improved in recent years. They did not.

Cadillac Escalade. 2005.
Test drive. Wow! People actually piss away 50 grand on these things huh? Did not like the handling, visibility, power. Should have been a lot better for a so-called luxury SUV. Interior was really not that nice all things considered. Not THAT much interior space for such a huge beast. Relatively few features. I think this is proof the American consumer is a spoiled idiot.

Doge Charger. 2006.
Rental. Just for fun. I would occasionally rent something for a single day just to play with it. My local Enterprise let me have it for 35 bucks, which is a lot more fun than a nice meal for the same price. Did not like. Again, for the money this thing has sparse features (American cars are like that). Did move out well enough, not the hemi but still powerful. Handling and visibility were poor. Felt like an expensive death trap. For something thats not quite a sports car but more than a family sedan I would expect a little better. For this kind of money I'd expect a lot more. Again I cant believe people piss away money on things like this. Would not own, but a good lesson to rent. Kept me from owning a Dodge.

Toyota Prius. 2010.
Test drive. PIECE OF SHIT! And very overpriced. Mostly it was the incredibly poor visibility that killed it for me. That thing is a death trap and most folks dont seem to care. Not much space, but you'd be ashamed to transport your friends in it anyways. Good for going to school and getting groceries in nice weather. Thats about all. Handling is not so hot. Interior didnt impress me for such an expensive vehicle.

Toyota Tocoma Sport. V6. 2010.
Not that impressive overall. Dad had a basic Toyota pickup back in 1991, before they gave them cute little names. I liked that one better.
This thing obviously had a nicer interior and features than my S-10, but still wasnt great. Liked the generator in the back. That would be great for camping. Handled better than my S-10, but that isnt saying much. Not much clearance on the Off-Road model either. Overall, not so hot. Certainly not worth the money. Actually, this should not be on the list cuz it wasnt a horrible experience, just mediocre.

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Also got to take a coworkers Z06 around the block once. Guy was an engineer with no wife so he could afford nice toys. Good thing its so powerful cuz its not at all comfortable to sit in. Again, like the Mustang it felt cramped and dark. Unlike the Mustang it had real power and the handling of a true sports car. I guess drivers like the tight feel. Makes them believe they are at Indianapolis or something. But they arent. They are just driving an overpriced toy to work and back and probably causing spine damage which will end up costing them much more than the car. But it was fun for a short trip. Would never buy.
 
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TwinsenTacquito

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LOL, that's the whole idea of these small engines - minimal power and good fuel economy most of the time, and you only wind it up if you need acceleration.

8200 is a bit of an exaggeration though - my Accord redlines at 6200 rpm, the 6th gen Civics redline at around 6700-6800. Maybe you're talking about the SI and SIR versions?

Anyways, with the autos, you'd have to be intentionally running them in low gear, which is retarded on any car. Even when you floor it in Drive, they shift well before redline.

The ones that blew 3 times fast were all D15s or D16s, I forget. The B16s and B18s seemed more reliable, but still bad. You just have to wind them way the hell out to have fun, and I really don't think they can handle that.

If you don't plan on beating on a car, then I ASSume there won't be a problem.
 

Pneumothorax

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Worst Car: 1984 Cadillac Cimmaron - my parents were new immigrants and wanted to own a "luxury" American car from the "standard of the world" That POS forever ruined my taste for American cars. My parents tried again with a '90 Seville. After those 2 haven't bought an american car since

Best Car: 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera - basic "stripped" model
 

NAC

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Best: 1989 Mazda Miata. Perfect handling, top down cruising, oh-so lovely shifter.

Honorable mention for best: 2002 VW Golf TDI Awesome fuel economy, IMO perfect mix of handling, space, luxury, and terrific highway cruiser.

Most folk’s definition of best: My current 2004 Audi S4 Avant. Power & luxury. I’ll probably miss it when I sell it, which is why I haven’t yet. But I don’t appreciate the power or luxury enough. Especially since I don’t get to drive it on the autobahn.


Worst: Mid 70’s Honda Civic. First generation, tiny, had no power but torque steer was just insane.
 

shortylickens

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Worst Car: 1984 Cadillac Cimmaron - my parents were new immigrants and wanted to own a "luxury" American car from the "standard of the world" That POS forever ruined my taste for American cars. My parents tried again with a '90 Seville. After those 2 haven't bought an american car since

Best Car: 2010 Porsche 911 Carrera - basic "stripped" model

So I will assume you arent German?

:awe:
 

Tweak155

Lifer
Sep 23, 2003
11,448
262
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I like trucks so...

Best:
2010 F150 (I like all F150's I've been in, I own this one)
2008 Fusion
2007 Mazda 3 hatch


Worst:
Obviously I like Ford's but I don't know how Focus made it to best, at least not 2008+
Some Kia i rented for work that was really small, 08 model
Escape 2010 - test drove this thing... after being in the nicer interior models they have, I don't know what they were thinking on the base model for this car. The leather was meh, but still overall not a good car to drive all around.

Meh:
2006 Jeep Grand Cherokee - I liked it at first but it was overall a cheap and not roomy interior
2010 Cobalt (for the price of the car i thought it was decent)
99 Grand Am
2003 Grand Prix (for the price, though, is toward the lower end)
2001 Corvette - Didn't get to drive it much, but wasn't overly impressed
1996 Contour - first car, got it with 26k miles, lasted to about 110k miles before i sold it. Heard it died shortly after, but getting 90k miles out of it for a $6150 investment, and still being able to sell it, not bad
 

Estrella

Senior member
Jan 29, 2006
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This is worst and the best you've driven. This is not a laundry list of what you think is w/e with scales of gray.

Please , keep it to two with justifications for each. No one is reading the laundry lists.
 

LOUISSSSS

Diamond Member
Dec 5, 2005
8,771
54
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Best car: my own 2005 honda accord for 55k miles
worst car ever driven: 2007 jeep liberty with mechanical failures left and right @ 20k miles & 2008 cobalt with horrible ride quality, no power, breaking interior materials @ 20k miles.
 
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