Best & Worst Cars You've Personally Driven

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theblackbox

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the good

audi a8
mb s550 amg
mb clk55 amg
bmw m5


the bad
triumph tr8
ford maverick
chevy chevette 2 door and 4 door (yeah, i know...)
mustang II cobra fast but c'mon.
prius

the ugly
dodge omni glhs (1987) actually a fun car to drive due to the power to weight ratio, but a godless ugly car.
 

amdhunter

Lifer
May 19, 2003
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Best:
Audi S4 2010, even though the steering was slightly disconnected feeling.

Worst:
My fathers 5.7L 300c. His current SRT8 300 is so much better feeling.
 

Viperoni

Lifer
Jan 4, 2000
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Best:

2009 Renault Clio Cup Sport
2009 Audi A4 wagon TDI
1992 Nissan NX2000

Neutral:

2009 Cobalt SS with mods
2002 Altima 3.5

Worst:

1991 Mercury Topaz
1997 Honda Civic (my friends; was and still is in very poor condition lol)
1997 Cavalier Z24
 

superccs

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03-04 S2000 and current gent celica GTE are hilariously fun to drive
90 HONDA CRX all time fun small car.
03 M5 very nice

Worst 83 Oldsmobile cutlass wagon
 

endlessmike

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My dad bought an '85 Escort 4-door hatch in the mid-90s for my sister to get her license with and drive to work. Shutting the doors offered a feeling about as solid as putting the lid on a metal trashcan. The rear doors ended up sticking shut. You could hear the fuel sloshing around in the tank. It had a tow hitch on the back, it failed emissions check with a cracked intake head. It would overheat sitting in drive-thru lines, it was best to avoid ever having to go uphill, and it was painted in the most generic white enamel looking crap usually reserved for cheap refridgerators.

And still, it was not the worst car I've ever driven. I mean, it was bad, but it was a $700, 12 year old, mid-80's econo-shitbox, what would you expect?

The worst, by far, was the Dodge Charger. Rental, to be fair, but that doesn't change the overall poor execution of this thing. The V6 could barely get it out of its own way. Visibility was poor. The interior was dreadful hard cheap plastic with sharp edges still left behind from the moldings. The steering wheel rim felt about as thick as a Q-tip and the feeling was numb, and I think Chrysler maybe bought the leftover white paint from the Escort factory at a discount. Now granted it didn't break down or anything like that, but considering the sticker price of these things, what's the point? It didn't look better, perform better, or feel better than any car in that price/size range. In fact, it did most of them worse.

I also had a Pontiac... whatever their little SUV was 2-3 years ago, as a rental. Same tupperware interior problems that plagued the Dodge. No steering feel, lots of fun odd pings and rattles, and a gas gauge that randomly dropped to E several times on the trip. Lots of fun driving through back roads of Alabama and Miss. not knowing how much fuel you have left.

Ditto on the G6, had one of those as my last rental, completely agree with the other comments about it and its Cobalt sibling. Piece of junk. It's not 1985, it's not ok to just build a car that's sort of good enough anymore.
 

TraumaRN

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Jun 5, 2005
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Best:
2010 Ford Fusion Hybrid
1965 Mustang with the 289 in it
1956 Chevy Bel-Aire(sure it's a tank but damn fun car to drive)

Worst:
Early 1990s Pontiac Grand Am that thing was a piece.
 

AMCRambler

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Jan 23, 2001
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Worst:
1994 Plymouth Acclaim - Not awful, but pretty lame. It's a K car for starters so I might as well have been an old lady. No balls on it. The brakes were shot and it idled like shit. Brakes were drum too so stopping power was limited. Maybe brand new it would have been halfway decent, but it was about 13 years old at the time.

2006 Ford Focus - This car was better than the acclaim, but even more under powered. The interior wasn't terrible, but its a low end car so nothing to write home about. Accelerating on the on-ramp to a freeway I probably could have pedaled faster on a bicycle.

Best:
2005 GTO - My current car and I love it. It handles like a tank in the corners but the power more than makes up for that. I love spinning the wheels and going sideways with it too.

2000 Ford Contour SVT - Best handling car I've ever driven. Cornered like it was on rails. The suspension setup the SVT group put on that car was excellent, the ride height perfect and the 200hp 2.5 V6 gave it a good amount of oomph to get it moving. Nice little 5 speed gear box too. I miss that car sometimes.
 

satyajitmenon

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Apr 3, 2008
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Best (in order of preference):
'04 330Ci ZHP (E46 FTW baby)
'09 Corvette ZHZ (Big engine meets right foot)

Worst :
'08 Chevy Cobalt Coupe (ugh)
 

kalrith

Diamond Member
Aug 22, 2005
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Best:

'08 STI
'79 Monte Carlo

Worst:

~'07 Dodge Avenger
'94 Escort station wagon
 

Possessed Freak

Diamond Member
Nov 4, 1999
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Best:

1984 Jeep J10 - yes it ain't fancy but man was it fun to drive this sucker and beat it around.

Worst:

1987 Ford Aerostar - What a hunk of junk.
 

rh71

No Lifer
Aug 28, 2001
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Cavalier rental in Kauai... we smartened up in Maui with a Sebring convertible. Both sucked, but one sucked less.
 

Fenixgoon

Lifer
Jun 30, 2003
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best:
1982 Suzuki GS650Gz
64-66 mustang 289 (the sound!)
1999 VW Passat 1.8T (my baby)

worst:
1994 mitsubishi galant - the transmission went out, so it was never the same when it got replaced. before that, though, it was a perfectly good car. it still managed to live till 250k, amazingly!
 

yh125d

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Dec 23, 2006
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Best?
Volvo S60 R
1954ish triumph TR3

Worst?
Pontiac Solstice - ugh
 

Meghan54

Lifer
Oct 18, 2009
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Best....

Hard to quantify.

Mileage....our current '02 Blazer with 208K miles, only had to replace the fuel pump and alternator, outside routine maintenance.

Fun.....a 1974 Fiat X/1-9. No power, but it handled like it had rails underneath it.

Pure power.....1969 Olds 442 W-30 convert.


Some other decent cars.....280ZX (good interstate cruiser), another 1969 Old Cutlass convert, a VW Bug converted to a woods basher, and quite a few others




Bad.....

A Datsun B210......couldn't maintain 55mph up any sort of incline, even with the A/C turned off

Ford Ranger pickup w/ 3.0 V-6.....for a V-6, it seemed to have less power than my old Fiat or VW Bugs I owned....a truly miserable vehicle
 

Kadarin

Lifer
Nov 23, 2001
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Best: 2008 M3 coupe.

Worst: 1980 Pontiac T1000 (Chevy Chevette clone)

The T1000 had a whopping 70bhp and had serious trouble going uphill.
 

Pulsar

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Mar 3, 2003
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I forgot to throw in another worst:

2009 Toyota Tundra.

We put sand in the back and the bed buckled so that the gate wouldn't close. So we had to shovel the sand back out, close the gate, then shovel it back in with the gate closed.

Who the FUCK decided to call this total POS a pickup truck. A Ford Ranger would beat it.
 

DrMrLordX

Lifer
Apr 27, 2000
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Best? Probably my Dad's Subaru Forester XT. Only thing wrong with it is the windshield that has a flaw which makes it whistle at highway speeds (70+ mph). I don't think the dealership has ever addressed that properly.

Worst? '94 Mercury Tracer. Mine had the 1.9L Ford 4-cylinder (rather than the 1.8L 4, forget who made it . . . Mazda?). It liked to shake at highway speeds after awhile, the alignment was never right, it was pretty weak, the heater core cracked for no apparent reason at one point, it was just bad. It worked as a daily driver, but I ran it into the ground without pushing it very hard; it made a horrendous noise at about 100k, prompting me to sell it to a guy for $25 so I would not have to have it towed (he was fixing it up for some woman on welfare who needed transportation). I bought it used, woulda felt cheated had I bought it new.

That's saying a lot since I learned to drive on an '84 Chevy Celebrity station wagon, aka The Megawagon. That was the second worst car I ever drove.
 

TwinsenTacquito

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Best:

-C6 Corvette, C5 Corvette, C4 Corvette, very strongly in that order. They feel right to me. There are other cars that they compete with that I'd like to try out, but meh, I'm not made of money. Plus, you can really beat on these Chevy products. They don't have "potential performance if things didn't keep breaking" like other GT cars that cost a lot more.

-CTS, CTS-V, 2003/2004/2006(/7?). Emphasis on the V. Best sedans ever. I'm not a sedan guy, but a CTS could make me a sedan guy. A sedan *drumroll* that you can beat on.

-G35, G37 (ok, so I haven't driven a G37, but I figure it's just the same but a little bit worse because it's newer). Great cars. Umm... they uh... stuff works and is good. Yeah, that about covers everything. They're "very good." Which IMO is very very rare, especially for a new car! The engine is very large and over complicated, but stuff doesn't break. Yay VQ, I can beat on you!

-1999, 2000, 2002 Camaro, 2002 Firebirds (the v8's, because they got the stufffffs). They're cheap and you can get a lot out of them. I'd upgrade the brakes day 1. Built to be beaten on every single day. I wish I'd had some miles under my belt with one of the newer GTOs... hate to just leave them out.

-2003/4 Mustangs, GT, Mach-1, SVT, a little big for my tastes, but they can do what I'd want of a car. You can beat on them their fair share.

-1996 Pathfinder, 2001 Pathfinder - The beatings I've put on these monsters is legendary. I have a hard time believing the beating these transmissions have taken. Congratulations Nissan! Yay VG and VQ!

-199X Nissan 240sx. Not special, but what a car SHOULD BE. Every car manufacturer should take a look at the 240 and make something just like it. Can you imagine a $10,000 RWD econobox? No, you can't, because RWD is now sold as some magical new technology mined from the center of the earth.

-199X Chevy S-10 pickups. Nothing special, but nothing shitty either. Beat on them, and even if stuff does break you can replace it in an hour without the help of a second $100 bill.

-BMW Sedans (the small ones), used to be the 3's, then the 3's became 5 series size and we have the 1 series now that are 3's. The mid 90's ones looked the best, and just about all of them are good. The mid 90's ones are also the least complex (but still overly complex). They do what they should, but they cost more than they should. Keeping them up isn't worth it.

-Volvo 240: What an ugly piece of shi... wait it still runs? Didn't you buy this car 30 years ago? Yeah, I'll help you replace your rotted out motor mounts. The only european car you can afford parts for, which is important, because at 30 years every single part is a "wear part".

-350z, 300z. Well done, Nissan. VQ and VG, respectively. The 350 is a big improvement in every way that I can think of off the top of my head. You can beat on them both. Hooray! Tranny is the weak point, but hey, I put these well below the Mustang and Camaro for that reason.

-199X Porsche 928 - too much money, wayyyy too much money to keep running, but they do what I want a car to. Don't really want to beat on them much. If anything breaks at this point in the game, sell the car. Or junk it. Worst car I've driven that I'd consider good.

-2000 Crown Vic, 2004 Grand Marquis - not the best cars out there, but the only boat of a car I'd ever put a single penny down on. I can drive one of these, then a 7 series BWM and not see a difference. They're both boaty pieces of shit as far as how fun to drive they are, but the Crown Vics cost like a dollar! They're better than everything boaty that's FWD, so that makes them a 98 percentile. Trip car. Trip car. "TRIP CAR! TRIP CAR! TRIP CAR! TRIP CAR!"

Worst:

-Honda ____, 1980-2005ish (haven't driven the very new ones). I've driven many, and I just can't say enough bad things. Name a part of a car... their one of those is bad. Can't get over the weak wobbly frames, the terrible brakes, all the mechanical problems that people swear they don't have, etc. Driving them is annoying as well, because I don't feel like winding them out to 6kRPM just to move along at a normal pace. Have had 2 in the family blow the engine before 500 miles. There just aren't words for the lack of reliability. At least when they die, it's within warranty (fuck you, Mazda and Toyota!). Don't try to beat on any of them, a lot of stuff breaks and they aren't made to be worked on, they're like disposable cars.

-Toyota Corolla, since they went FWD. I've driven a few, and they've all been neck and neck with the Honda Civics for worst cars of all time. Ok, the new ones, possibly worse than new Civics. I have to give Honda credit for one thing, they don't make the new Corolla. I've never driven anything so scary and unstable. The brakes are obviously better than a Honda, but the cars are pieces of shit. I put 2,000 miles on a brand new Corolla, ALL highway miles, and guess what I got out of it? A car that wouldn't start. Piece of !#$(!&#(!@&#*(. The 1.8's die a very quick death, around 20-25k miles. They're like rotaries, only the engine design itself isn't to blame, it's just the build quality... and you don't even have to beat on them for them to die. I really hate all the electronics they put in these things as well. The interior on the Corollas is for people that are 8 feet tall, yet have the legs of a midget. There is not one seat in them where my knees aren't jammed up against something, and yet I always have 2 feet of head room. Why are they so tall?! And btw, never ever ever beat on a Toyota.

-Toyota Echo - because... well Echo, you win all that is bad. Everything bad about every FWD econobox is the absolute worst with you. Well, except...

-VW everything (ranging from very old all models to very new just the convertible thingy): nothing is thought out. Nothing. It's not like Honda and Toyota who will cut corners and ruin a car. VW will spend two to three times as much on a component just to over complicate it or ruin it with worthless technology. Hey guys, we made our engine block weigh 1 pound less than our competition. The cylinder walls are now the worst in history, and the longblock weighs a full 100 pounds more than all our competitors, but look at that 1 pound lighter that the block is! Find a friend with a VW, and take a look at their jack. It's worse than a scissor jack. German engineering, in the trash!

-Lincoln Continental - FWD luxury car. Really, that says it all. But they also have piles of worthless luxury options to annoy you. Like the climate control. You turn the key on a cold day, and it starts blowing all vents to max spin of the fans. So you got that 0 degree air blowing all over you, and the little red light on is, because that air is HOT, right? Ughhhhh! Haha, somebody else mentioned this car.

-Pontiac Grand Am (1999 and 2005 I think), Grand Prix (2007/8?), Chevy Monte Carlo (FWD one, 200X), Chevy Malibu (2000?): pieces of shit. Bad. Cheap though... but bad. Just... blah. Still better than their Hondyota counterparts, but not decent cars either.

In da middle!
(boringular mention?)

-199X Cavalier. Sure they're bad, they're FWD! But they're cheaper than everything else. What a total piece of shit car should be. Like, what a really really bad car should be (really-really). Better buy than whatever sells for $25,000 at the Hondyota dealership JUST because they're cheaper and "the same thing" to me.

-199X Taurus, both generations (I've driven 4 or 5, no idea on the years, they all look the same). Cheapest 6 cylinder sedan you could get. What's wrong with them? Well, nothing is right with them other than they're "ok to drive" and really cheap. Not the most reliable car ever, but not unreliable like the "quality" machines other people put out that were more expensive. If you had to have an automatic FWD sedan, this was the best choice.

-1996-2003 Maxima, all those generations. Best FWD sedans ever made, by a large margin. More expensive than the Taurus, so... whichever works for you and you're willing to pay.

-Late 80's Camry - yeahh, bitch ran forever. Terrible car the whole way, but at least it didn't break like the new ones. It was FWD, so it doesn't get into the "best cars" list with the Volvo 240.


Edited as I read the thread over, I'm reading what other people have driven and writing in which I've driven if they apply. Most are in between and forgettable.
 
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TwinsenTacquito

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And more. Most of them aren't the best or worst, they're just in between. Driven DSMs and Supras and that stuff, but they're not the best nor the worst by far. Right in the middle there.

My parents always leased, so that's 2 new cars every 2 or 3 years. I've had 4 cars myself. I was a "car guy" in highschool and since. My friends crash cars at a regular rate, and we've been a core of 5 or 6 guys that hang out several times a night for 10 years now. Every Friday and Saturday night, when weather permits, we get together a group of 50-100 guys and we drink beers and talk cars. I've driven 5 240sx's and a 300zx in the past 2 years, they keep buying them and crashing them. I always ask people if I can try their car out when I get a chance. Also my father was always on business trips and used a rental to/from the airport, so I'd try out a car for a weekend when I felt like it. Those were always automatics. But yeah, mostly I just ask people if I can drive their car. I've never totaled one, so they usually trust me.

I have a friend with a v6 2002 Camaro that hasn't let me in like 5 times that I've asked. I've driven several LT1 and LS1 examples though. Just drove one with an LT1 built to LT4 spec (roller rockers), and with a nasty cam in it. I'd never driven anything with a nasty cam before. He said he spent a ton of money at a motor shop for them to tune it. However, his idle is at 600rpm and it's really fucking hard to drive even though it's not as fast as my car. I don't know why you'd spend $5k just on dyno tuning if it turns out that the fucking idle is too low for the car to be a decent drive. Just tell it to idle at 900rpm! AGH!

I've driven the new Camaros and new Mustangs. The new Mustangs are good, the new Camaros have terrible visibility. I haven't tried out the C6 Z06, C6 ZR-1, C4 ZR-1, new supercharged CTS-V, so I got no clue on those. Most of the cars I've driven are boring cars that don't make boringular mention. Or are too specialized. Like a cherokee with no doors, lifted, huge tires, welded rear end this past week. SO FUN! But... I'm not gonna own one!

Oh, and I pretend to be interested in cars just to test drive them. BTW, worst dealership ever for annoyance was Inifiniti of Hartford. They called me every day or so for a couple weeks, then once a week for 6 months to a year. Bitch, I told you I was trying out cars to tell my dad what to buy for his next car. I never said I was interested. STOP CALLING, AGH!!!
 
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JeepinEd

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Best - my '97 Jeep Wrangler
I've driven plenty of real exotics, but you just can't drive fast in L.A. With the top down and the half doors off, the Wrangler was just a really fun vehicle. Going off road just took it to a whole new level.

Worst - my '97 Jeep Wrangler
Can't hears S#!t in the cabin when on the freeway, even with the soft top up. The half doors/windows would get sucked open by the wind, letting the cold air/rain in. It was an auto with a 3 speed transmission. It had enough trunk capacity to store a shoe box. Had to sell it when my son was born, because it was utterly useless with a car seat.

I'm having plenty of fun with my 4 door Jeep, but I really miss my TJ and am glad I sold it - even though I want another one...Crap...It must be a Jeep thing.
 

MetalMat

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Since I travel alot and get car rentals and I have owned a variety of cars I will give my 2 cents.

Best:

Mazda 6 series sedan
Nissian Altima
Ford Mustang (05+ body styles)
Honda Pilot
Mercury Milan
Dodge Charger SRT8
Hyundai Sonata
Ford Fusion

Worst:

Chevy Malibu
Ford Tarus (old body style)
Hyundai Tiburon
Dodge Charger 2.7L
Toyota Camry
Chrysler PT Cruiser
Chevy HHR
Mitsubishi Mirage
Ford Tempo
Dodge Omni
Toyota Matrix


There are many cars that fit into the average category, but the ones that stuck out on either end of the spectrum are listed above.
 

Arkaign

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Best:Worst:

-Honda ____, 1980-2005ish (haven't driven the very new ones). I've driven many, and I just can't say enough bad things. Name a part of a car... their one of those is bad. Can't get over the weak wobbly frames, the terrible brakes, all the mechanical problems that people swear they don't have, etc. Driving them is annoying as well, because I don't feel like winding them out to 6kRPM just to move along at a normal pace. Have had 2 in the family blow the engine before 500 miles. There just aren't words for the lack of reliability. At least when they die, it's within warranty (fuck you, Mazda and Toyota!). Don't try to beat on any of them, a lot of stuff breaks and they aren't made to be worked on, they're like disposable cars.

Really? I've beat the total snot out of 3 Hondas of that era, a 3G Prelude Si, a 5G Prelude SH, and an old late-80's Civic, and only had to replace CV axles, belts, hoses, oil, etc. Not just for low miles either, but all of them well over the 200k mark without issue. All of the interior bits, electronics, moonroof seals, etc also were trouble-free. Performance wasn't bad either, except in the Civic with 4-speed auto and a 1.5L motor, hah. Guess different people have difference experiences though. I don't recommend modding them though, I put a JR SC into the 5G, and was in the 12s and able to smoke most stock vehicles, but buying CV axles, tires, having to disable ATTS, and sucking gas like mad just wasn't worth it in the end. It would have been cheaper just to get a Mustang GT and beef it up, and faster to boot.

Anyhow, just wanted to share my flipside to your unfortunate experiences with the Hondas.

My best :

Hondas (above)
BMW E46 (325i)
BMW E39 (M5)
Focus ('08 5MT Coupe)
LeSabre (1995)

My fails :

'94 Escort
'94 Cadavalier
'94 Mirage

Those three were just total piles of shit, and they were new to boot. But nothing compares to the absolute horror of :

'99 Neon. Absolutely everything went wrong with this car, and it ended up going to the junker with around 60k on the clock. Bleh.
 

TwinsenTacquito

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Of the tens of people I know that have had Hondas, I haven't seen a single one last more than 30k miles without munching its engine. I've seen trannies go, obviously CVs go, and lots of stupid little problems that lead to more problems when you try to fix them. If you get parts from the dealership, they're much lower quality than the original OEM. A lot of them are just completely useless. A friend ate both of his insanely terribly made wheel wells when they touched his tires. Just tore right off the car, as expected. The replacements were so thin that I couldn't believe it. Right from Honda, stamped Honda, and totally worthless crap. He ended up driving the car without wheel wells because the replacements couldn't handle 65mph on the highway. There are just too many horror stories to list.

The best was this same friend and this same car. Three engines, three weeks, less than one thousand miles. Original Honda engines, installed by the Honda dealership. F that S. I'll never drop a dime on them. My friend paid for all 3 and the installs, they said it wasn't their fault because a kid that worked there said they saw him beating on the car. I told him to sue them, but he didn't, fearing he'd just lose when the kid said that again in court.


Also, they cost too much and the parts are very expensive, even though they are literally the worst I've ever seen.
 
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