someone besmirches the lily white do gooder image he has of america and it's all ragecrying for slow.
we really need a jerboy scroll for slow's ragecrying
we really need a jerboy scroll for slow's ragecrying
Which part did I get wrong, dipstickThat is truly a wonderful misrepresentation of American/Latin American history. You did good.
You’ve yet to demonstrate knowledge of, well, anything really.I suspect I know more about the history in question than you ever will.
I think Beto is saying what he thinks he needs to say to salvage his campaign to angle for a VP nod.You know, we can admit our part in the equation, a shithole-equation as it may be, without jumping to the conclusion that the west owes reparations to everyone else. We could look at our selves and conclude that at the planet cannot sustain the rate at which we currently consume, especially us in the west. I dont think Beto is saying anything else than that.
Aren`t you that idiot who claims that it does not matter what race you are, that if you apply7 yourself and make good decisions and work hark the American dream can be yours??? hahahaaaaaaCute, another "blame America first" tool comes along.
Cute, another "blame America first" tool comes along.
Reactionaries don't do history. They can't remember anything before they received their latest talking points.Dude says historically factual, indisputable thing
Proud member of stupid clown party calls the first dude a clown.
What a killer..If "Really, I blame Cortes" is the rationalization here I'm not going to waste my time.
Free speech warrior and personal responsibility advocate thinks it should be treason to say that the US should take more responsibility for its actions.Actually, I'd say you're ignoring quite a bit of history there to blame America. Please proceed, comrade.
There is no rationalization. There is a broader historical context.If "Really, I blame Cortes" is the rationalization here I'm not going to waste my time.
Given the historical context of the region, what does taking responsibility specifically mean?Free speech warrior and personal responsibility advocate thinks it should be treason to say that the US should take more responsibility for its actions.
There is no rationalization. There is a broader historical context.
The context is him speaking to American voters about American policy.
About what tho?
I don't understand his strategy of bringing this up as a presidential campaign topic.
Reactions like slows are completely predictable, and I wouldn't count on the masses to get behind you in a nuanced historical analysis of America's role in 500 years of colonialism in Latin America and it's impact on.... what?... Immigration policy of today? Sending billions in foreign aid to latam?
Proving his woke?
There is a reason he's blundered himself into the 2%er club, and this ain't going to turn it around and win Iowa.
He's explaining why we are seeing mass migration from Central America and how it is, at least in part due, to US policy decisions. Unless you are going to propose that migration isn't a campaign issue I think it's obvious how it is relevant.
I don't think he's going to be president but it does not negate that what he's saying is factually correct.
Fine if he's running for a professorship or fellowship, it's a stupid political strategy to bring all this shit up if you're trying to win a electoral contest where the first two votes are in IA and NH, two northern, fairly conservative, white AF states.
No one wants to hear a history lesson from a politician where our granddaddies were the bad guys, ergo we need to give away a bunch of our stuff now. Especially when everyone is feeling financially insecure as it is and we're teetering on recession again.
So far he's jumped on the white privilege bandwagon, supported reparations, healthcare for illegal immigrants, and now is going on about this.
Jesus H.C. He's probably talked himself out of even having a shot at TX Senate at this point.
Misplaced guilt is an odd place to start that conversationThe context is him speaking to American voters about American policy.
Misplaced guilt is an odd place to start that conversation
Why do people pretend this is ancient history? The drug war is ongoing, climate change is ongoing, US interference in Central America is ongoing. Present US government policy is likely to dramatically worsen the situation by removing what aid we give these people. These are present concerns.
I don't care about Beto's campaign. I care that he's got valid points, which many Americans either have no knowledge or or have decided to forget because it's inconvenient.
These selective facts may help my sinking campaign.These facts make me feel guilty so I shall ignore them and raise the Spanish conquest of the Americas to absolve said guilt.
Beto has built his entire campaign around apologizing for things, which is probably why his polling is so poor.I've not said that people should feel guilty even though I have an opinion on that.
So what is his foreign policy solution to a destable region of our hemisphere that floods our streets with drugs and squanders our foreign aid?I say that people should deal with the factual nature of his argument, which is sound. US policy has consequences and I'm just not sure how you'd argue that in the last 150ish years that policy hasn't had a profound effect on Central America.
So what is his foreign policy solution to a destable region of our hemisphere that floods our streets with drugs and squanders our foreign aid?
Recognizing there are good people in bad situations does not sound like policy. Previous attempts to fix this reality have been exercises in bad policy.Are some, you assume, good people?
Recognizing there are good people in bad situations does not sound like policy. Previous attempts to fix this reality have been exercises in bad policy.
That’s fair. I think we’ve made legitimate attempts to fix problems, sometimes muddled by our own foreign policy interests. NGOs unfortunately can only go so far.I was referencing the Trumpian bent of your comment.
Drugs are smuggled into the US because we have a huge market for them and prohibition. The aid we give to Central America almost entirely goes to NGOs not the problematic governments themselves even then the paltry figures we contribute barely make a dent.
We've never actually tried ,to a meaningful degree, to really fix the problems.