Bets option for speeding up DVD ripping/compressing/burning?

[MaxDSP]

Just bought a 3520A and using Ritek media with it. Right now, the ripping part of it takes 2:45 (H:M) without deep analysis turned on with DVD Shrink. My CPU is a 1 GHz XP with 512MB RAM, and plenty of HD space (72000 RPM 40GB). Burning the dvd takes something like 30-45 minutes on average.

Are these times on target given the specs of my system? How much time could be saved if I was to upgrade my cpu to something like an XP2700?

Also, when burning, the rate is show as 1,080 KB/sec...is that on target also? It seems to be kind of slow to me, given that I have 3 HDD total in the system (2 HDD on IDE1, HDD on IDE2 Master, DVDRW on IDE2 Slave).

I'm going to purchase a Promise card and put the HDD on it and the DVDRW on its own channel on the mobo...would this also increase my burning speeds somewhat?

 

[ribbon13]

if you have a SATA controller on your board, you might want to consider getting a SATA adapter for it
Have you modded the firmware?

 

[MaxDSP]

No I do not have SATA onboard, and i have not modded the fw yet.

 

[Spicedaddy]

Get a firmware with Riplock removed, should improve speed a little since it won't be capped at 2X anymore. Your CPU is kinda slow, so a 2700 would improve the encoding speed. For example, my P4 3.0 usually does a movie in about 1:30, and that's with deep analysis and the other video option set to "sharp".

The burning is definitely too slow for your drive. What speed is your Ritek media? I have 8X media and it takes ~9 minutes to burn. Make sure your hard drive and DVDRW are on different channels.

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: Spicedaddy
Get a firmware with Riplock removed, should improve speed a little since it won't be capped at 2X anymore. Your CPU is kinda slow, so a 2700 would improve the encoding speed. For example, my P4 3.0 usually does a movie in about 1:30, and that's with deep analysis and the other video option set to "sharp".

The burning is definitely too slow for your drive. What speed is your Ritek media? I have 8X media and it takes ~9 minutes to burn. Make sure your hard drive and DVDRW are on different channels.

Damn, didnt know it was capped at 2x, you sure? With Riplock removed, about how fast will it rip, 4x, 8x, etc? I thought about the fw when I installed the drive but thought it would have been risky so I didn't. Have you ever ripped without the deep analysis, and if so, how long did it take approx?

My dvdr media is 8x btw.

 

[kini62]

The ripping/encoding time will vary a lot depending on the length of the movie, full back up or reauthor main movie, deep analysis, and other quality settings. Based on my experience- deep analysis doesn't provide any visual benefit, and I watch my movies on a rear projection progressive scan TV if that makes a diff. I did notice some improvement (to my eyes) using smooth. I tried the sharpening and had more artifacts show up on my TV.

As for ripping/encdoing speed your processor is definetely holding you back. I can do a reauthor of a main movie with smooth selected in between 20 and 30 mins depending on the length of the movie. Without smooth it takes as little as 12 mins or so.

I don't know about your burner. I have the same one, I think, it burns my 4X media at 8X. Go for the processor upgrade.

 

[ribbon13]

NEC 3520a
Sil3611
Firmware

 

[MaxDSP]

Originally posted by: ribbon13
NEC 3520a
Sil3611
Firmware

thanks for that firmware link, but would using the sata adapter make a noticeable difference in the whole process?

 

[ribbon13]

Since you don't already have a SATA controller, then no

 

[Zepper]

Putting each IDE device on its own channel may help speed things up. You can get a decent SiliconImage based PCI PATA controller for about $20. shipped from Newegg et al.
.bh.

 

[gwag]

if your CPU is really 1Ghz and not underclocked, its is not an XP.
if its not an XP it has no SSE.
example bench:
a duron XP core is 20% faster on MPG1 to 2 conversion than the older core.
Duron 1300- 5:45
Athlon 1400- 6:55
AXP 2700- 3:01
go for a new CPU, even a cheap 1.8 duron would likely boost your encoding performance 100%
drives dont matter all that much, your talking about writing less than 8M per sec. usually
yes and many dvd drives don'trip that fast by default- don't know abouthe hacks but if it gets rid of it go for it or get a lite-on for ripping I knowthedont suffer from it.

 

[Ardan]

If the drive is Parallel ATA, buying a Serial ATA adapter for it won't make it go any faster. It might perform better if it would mean that its all by itself, but it won't increase your actual transfer rate, or burning speed. The same goes with Hard Drives as well. This is a common misconception...from what I find at least.

 

[kini62]

You might want to consider adding a "read" only drive for ripping. They're sometimes faster then the writers when it comes to ripping, and you can get one for cheap. But all the ripping speed in the world won't help if your CPU can only encode at 1KB/sec. Try just ripping by using DVD Decryptor, and rip to the HDD. Then use DVD Shrink to encode that way you'll get a better idea as to the rip speed of your drive.

 

[gwag]

Originally posted by: kini62
You might want to consider adding a "read" only drive for ripping. They're sometimes faster then the writers when it comes to ripping, and you can get one for cheap. But all the ripping speed in the world won't help if your CPU can only encode at 1KB/sec. Try just ripping by using DVD Decryptor, and rip to the HDD. Then use DVD Shrink to encode that way you'll get a better idea as to the rip speed of your drive.

That takes longer overall. He wants to speed it up.

 

[ribbon13]

Originally posted by: Ardan
If the drive is Parallel ATA, buying a Serial ATA adapter for it won't make it go any faster. It might perform better if it would mean that its all by itself, but it won't increase your actual transfer rate, or burning speed. The same goes with Hard Drives as well. This is a common misconception...from what I find at least.

http://www.techimo.com/articles/index.pl?photo=44

Excuse me? Sil3611 kicks ass. And for $20 he could buy a SATA controller too.

 

[kini62]

Originally posted by: gwag

Originally posted by: kini62
You might want to consider adding a "read" only drive for ripping. They're sometimes faster then the writers when it comes to ripping, and you can get one for cheap. But all the ripping speed in the world won't help if your CPU can only encode at 1KB/sec. Try just ripping by using DVD Decryptor, and rip to the HDD. Then use DVD Shrink to encode that way you'll get a better idea as to the rip speed of your drive.

That takes longer overall. He wants to speed it up.

I know that. I was just trying to give him an idea to try and see if there was any problem with the drive's ripping speed. Just trying to isolate the procesess

 

[Ardan]

Originally posted by: ribbon13

Originally posted by: Ardan
If the drive is Parallel ATA, buying a Serial ATA adapter for it won't make it go any faster. It might perform better if it would mean that its all by itself, but it won't increase your actual transfer rate, or burning speed. The same goes with Hard Drives as well. This is a common misconception...from what I find at least.

http://www.techimo.com/articles/index.pl?photo=44

Excuse me? Sil3611 kicks ass. And for $20 he could buy a SATA controller too.

I didn't say Serial ATA is bad. I have two 80GB SATA Deskstar 7k250's in a RAID 0 configuration (video editing/production is done 80% of the time on this PC), but I did say that if a DVD+/-RW drive is rated for, say, 12x with some 12x media, then it will transfer ~12x, not magically around 13-16x speeds. Maybe a nominal increase could possibly be seen with reading, but its definitely not some big super-ultra-mega-atomic speed increase. He would be better off setting the DVD+/-RW drive as Master and not Slave, unless he actually wanted to put an adapter on that. The only benefit that would provide would be isolating the drive.

If he swapped so that it was the Master and the normal speed returned, putting it on an adapter (and buying an add-in SATA card for it too) wouldn't give any noticable increase in performance. Just like if you put a ATA-100 HDD on a Serial ATA adapter, it won't go at Serial 150 speeds because it wasn't originally designed for that. That aside, DVD+/-RW drives can be pretty picky with the DVD+R media, but i'm sure you probably made sure that it works fine with the media. I use Verbatim 16x and it sure flies through the burning process.