Better Call Saul

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purbeast0

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some really butthurt people in this thread because people have a different opinion than they do...
 

sze5003

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I'm also watching battle creek besides better call Saul and I'm liking that too.
 

Wingznut

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Sorry, guys. Breaking Bad was not Shakespeare, no matter how big your fandom. Boring is boring. It was a good show, but it didn't always fire on all cylinders.
I admittedly loved BB. I would go so far to proclaim it's as good as TV or movies get. But I have to wonder, if you find it only as "good" and much of it boring/dreadful/etc... What shows do hit on all cylinders for you?
 

Bob the Coder

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I loved BB, too, but I can understand it not being for everyone. BB will be a reference for character development for generations to come, but not everyone watches TV for the sake of character development, or the kind of characters found in the BB universe. Some found it depressing, others found the long drawn out plot building to be boring... all valid opinions.
 

purbeast0

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last nights episode was actually the first episode that i found kinda meh. it reminded me big time of a walking dead episode, where pretty much nothing happens until the last 5 minutes of the episode.

but i guess the other 55 minutes did serve some purpose, in that he's starting to get actual work and transitioning to the elder law guy.
 

CZroe

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Yeah. This episode did more character development than plot advancement.

It is clear that they are setting up Chuck's condition as an external gauge of Jimmy's conscience, so that part was necessary. Showing that is psychosomatic was also, obviously, important.

The guy who wants to secede showed that Jimmy can react on his feet to what others need to hear (prepared a car excuse but instead "refused" to consider himself a victim).

Developing the Matlock look shows that he's willing to adapt to target client expectations, which explains the eventual transition into "Saul Goodman."

The major advancement was setting up Mike's need for Jimmy and Jimmy's need for a PI.
 
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OutHouse

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I admittedly loved BB. I would go so far to proclaim it's as good as TV or movies get. But I have to wonder, if you find it only as "good" and much of it boring/dreadful/etc... What shows do hit on all cylinders for you?

im guessing, The Electric Company.
 

Carson Dyle

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I enjoyed this episode a lot. The Matlock angle was hilarious. Great storytelling.

Was there any hint of Chuck in Breaking Bad? I have a feeling he won't be alive by the time this series ends. It would be hard to imagine the strip-mall Saul operating with Chuck looking over his shoulder.
 

clamum

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The part with the talking toilet nearly had me rolling on the floor. Wow that was funny. And Jimmy's impression of it later in the episode... LOL.
 

Rhezuss

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I really liked last episode. SLower than the last four but still was great for character understanding and development. Can't wait to see more of Mike, how he became what he was in BB.

This show is awesome, well made and awesome.
 

smackababy

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I really liked last episode. SLower than the last four but still was great for character understanding and development. Can't wait to see more of Mike, how he became what he was in BB.

This show is awesome, well made and awesome.

I actually liked this episode a heck of a lot better than the previous ones. I much prefer this type of show than a "let's throw in a bunch of crap so people are like 'I remember that guy'" that it has felt like with Tuco. I certainly how this is a sign of better things to come.
 

GagHalfrunt

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I'm a lot less fond of Better Call Saul than I was 2 episodes ago. The first three set the stage nicely, gave us a good background on who Jimmy was before he morphed into Saul, introduced Mike, gave Saul the entry into the criminal underworld, everything was falling into place. Even the last episode, while slow, had the billboard scam which was another piece of the Jimmy/Saul transition. But this episode felt completely like a throwaway. Nothing really advanced outside the last 15 seconds. Good to see that maybe Mike will get some action going forward, but the Chuck arc is pure torture. It's consuming and wasting an awful lot of screen time with no payoff in sight.
 

smackababy

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I'm a lot less fond of Better Call Saul than I was 2 episodes ago. The first three set the stage nicely, gave us a good background on who Jimmy was before he morphed into Saul, introduced Mike, gave Saul the entry into the criminal underworld, everything was falling into place. Even the last episode, while slow, had the billboard scam which was another piece of the Jimmy/Saul transition. But this episode felt completely like a throwaway. Nothing really advanced outside the last 15 seconds. Good to see that maybe Mike will get some action going forward, but the Chuck arc is pure torture. It's consuming and wasting an awful lot of screen time with no payoff in sight.

I'm sure Michael Bay has a show paced a bit more to your liking. I kid, but I thought the last episode was fantastic. Setting Saul up to be a sleaze simply isn't doing him justice. He has to break. He was a con growing up, but tried to get his life back together. The entire Chuck arc is him slipping and eventually breaking. Nobody that wants to be a scumbag attorney puts up any resistance to being a scum bag attorney.
 

SMOGZINN

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I'm sure Michael Bay has a show paced a bit more to your liking. I kid, but I thought the last episode was fantastic. Setting Saul up to be a sleaze simply isn't doing him justice. He has to break. He was a con growing up, but tried to get his life back together. The entire Chuck arc is him slipping and eventually breaking. Nobody that wants to be a scumbag attorney puts up any resistance to being a scum bag attorney.

Is it just me or did the visiting the elderly in the retirement home scene feel like the most scumbag thing that Jimmy has done so far? I felt like it was an intentional thing, we are supposed to see that even what his brother calls doing good lawyer work is ultimately as skeevy as anything he ever did as Slipping Jimmy.

I also think that we are going to find that Chuck's mental condition is linked to something that Chuck did in his practice, that his mental condition is a symptom of his conscience wearing on him. When Saul find out he is going to be pissed and decide that you can't actually make it as a lawyer without getting your hands dirty.
 

CZroe

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Is it just me or did the visiting the elderly in the retirement home scene feel like the most scumbag thing that Jimmy has done so far? I felt like it was an intentional thing, we are supposed to see that even what his brother calls doing good lawyer work is ultimately as skeevy as anything he ever did as Slipping Jimmy.

I also think that we are going to find that Chuck's mental condition is linked to something that Chuck did in his practice, that his mental condition is a symptom of his conscience wearing on him. When Saul find out he is going to be pissed and decide that you can't actually make it as a lawyer without getting your hands dirty.

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