Better Call Saul

[CZroe]

well mike is a person that knows reality



not killing tuco was the way to go because after the cartel investigations he was going to be dead now.

also knew the cartel wanted him to speak so yes intimidation is the way to go but mike knew he had to accept the deal with the cartel or else his loved ones would be dead so he made his counter offer to the cartel

the cartel is practical they want to get what they want in a reasonable price and thats what mike is giving to them 5-10 years prison for 50k which is not a bad deal. when salamandra threatens him to do it for nothing or else he will kill his family mike know that what salamandra has is a threat and him needing to accept. the moment the cartel do something to mike or his family is the moment he will not speak to the police but both know if he does not do it they are dead

so they close a deal for both of them.



as i said previously mike will return the 25k back because the job was not done thats the why he asked for 50k. to give back the 25k and make some money in the process. because he is going to need a lawyer for the gun charges.



so lets put bets

which lawyer will come to the rescue of mike gun possession and use charges

is this the turning point for saul???



remember all the dishing he got for the advertising and in the end the firm made the same exact add and air it in the television

kim is the only thing that keeps him from snapping

Why would Mike face any charges at all?

He's a legal gun owner. All he had to say is that he did not realize that it was the same gun they were charging Tuco with until he realized that it was missing, which he was too rattled to realize the day of.

Wait. Was the gun missing the serial number or something? I don't recall.

It was not the same commercial it was the boring swirly background monotone voice mesothelioma commercial modified to be a sandpiper commercial that Saul derided for not having any 'showmanship'.

Also, it was airing at he wrong time slot which implied that someone did not know what they were doing. Probably not the right market either (Saul had personally reached out to the locals). IOW: they were doing it all wrong.

I took it to also imply that he was no longer in charge of client outreach, which was "his department." Makes me wonder what he is still doing there.

 

[Ichinisan]

... remember all the dishing he got for the advertising and in the end the firm made the same exact add and air it in the television
kim is the only thing that keeps him from snapping

He seemed upset that the ad was playing in the middle of the night...a complete waste considering the target demographic.

 

[ALIVE]

Why would Mike face any charges at all?

He's a legal gun owner. All he had to say is that he did not realize that it was the same gun they were charging Tuco with until he realized that it was missing, which he was too rattled to realize the day of.

Wait. Was the gun missing the serial number or something? I don't recall.



Also, it was airing at he wrong time slot which implied that someone did not know what they were doing. Probably not the right market either (Saul had personally reached out to the locals). IOW: they were doing it all wrong.

I took it to also imply that he was no longer in charge of client outreach, which was "his department." Makes me wonder what he is still doing there.

why make face charges
lets see
the gun is not register in him
and how legal is to pull your gun when you are in a fight?? when the other is unarmed???
it was tuco gun and as far we know it it may be the gun that killed the other man nacho said in the head???

either way mike is going to need a lawyer for the gun problems

well they air it so late in the night that all the old people will be sleeping
another evidence that they do not know how to reach the specific demographic they want

 

[ALIVE]

He seemed upset that the ad was playing in the middle of the night...a complete waste considering the target demographic.

well if they aired in china they had more chances that someone was going to be there on holidays than the time they choose to air it lol

 

[Perknose]

it was the same

No, it wasn't, in key ways even you admit, like not having the same narrator and not featuring the elderly women who was PROMINENT in the original.

if you remember the words of the commercial it was the same

Dude, tighten up, it didn't even have all the same words, like NONE of the narrator's words concerning the elderly woman's plight, which were extensive and a key part of the original.

Seriously, mang, you saying the ad was the same is like saying a Yugo is the same as a Ferrari because they both feature a steering wheel and the exact same number of tires.

 

[Squeetard]

It was the lawsuits co-firm (Kim Wexler's) Hamlin, Hamlin and McGill that aired that add he saw. Not his firm Davis and Main.

 

[Ketchup]

It was the lawsuits co-firm (Kim Wexler's) Hamlin, Hamlin and McGill that aired that add he saw. Not his firm Davis and Main.

Yeah. I wonder if that's part of why he was pushing so hard for Kim to take the offer she got at lunch? But after her "probation," the job offered would be 10x better than what she had, which would have been reason enough to leave.

Also: do you all think Kim is staying at HH&M due to obligation, as she says, or is there some other reason I'm not getting?

 

[CZroe]

why make face charges
lets see
the gun is not register in him
and how legal is to pull your gun when you are in a fight?? when the other is unarmed???
it was tuco gun and as far we know it it may be the gun that killed the other man nacho said in the head???

Are you seriously this delusional? Are you seriously asking how it is legal to defend yourself from attack with a gun? Assuming it is not is the same idiotic assumption dumbasses made in other recent cases that belong in P&N.

As far as registration goes, in many states I could buy one and give it to my spouse or parent for protection and the registration does not need to be updated (private sale or transfer).

 

[ALIVE]

Yeah. I wonder if that's part of why he was pushing so hard for Kim to take the offer she got at lunch? But after her "probation," the job offered would be 10x better than what she had, which would have been reason enough to leave.

Also: do you all think Kim is staying at HH&M due to obligation, as she says, or is there some other reason I'm not getting?

well there can be a dramatic twist here
all the role playing kim and jimmy do in the club??

maybe someone will find who they really are and that will cause kim career to en end??

thats the problem with being illegal the more times you are the more chances you have to be exposed

and being in the same club is just asking for a bad ending

 

[BrokenVisage]

The show is really starting to lose me, slow slow slow, if I didn't like the Saul and Mike BB characters so much it would be an easy skip for me.

 

[Drako]

He seemed upset that the ad was playing in the middle of the night...a complete waste considering the target demographic.

You've never been around old people, have you?

 

[Ketchup]

well there can be a dramatic twist here
all the role playing kim and jimmy do in the club??

maybe someone will find who they really are and that will cause kim career to en end??

thats the problem with being illegal the more times you are the more chances you have to be exposed

and being in the same club is just asking for a bad ending

Seriously? Someone is lying? Gee, that has never happened at a bar, EVER!

 

[ALIVE]

Are you seriously this delusional? Are you seriously asking how it is legal to defend yourself from attack with a gun? Assuming it is not is the idiotic assumption dumbasses made in other recent cases that belong in P&N.

As far as registration goes, in many states I could buy one and give it to my spouse or parent for protection and the registration does not need to be updated (private sale or transfer).

i do not live in usa
i do not know if you need to register the gun
but the gun belongs to a criminal
do you think admitting to be your gun will be easy picky???

we know that tuco killed a man a few years ago
do you think it can be the same gun??

so lets see the situation
2 people are arguing about the cars
and 1 pulls his gun to settle things
and then the other beat the hell out of him??

or the story can go
we were arguing about the cars he start hitting me and i pulled my gun

either way why you disagree
when mike says that admitting it was his gun it will cause him problems
and salamandra replying ex cops are dealt different

so it does not matter what you say or what are the laws in usa
mike saying its his gun will land him on trouble period

thats why the cartel was going to pay him money for the inconvenience his is going to have

mike will admit it was his gun
he will have legal troubles
and jimmy will come for the rescue

so how wants to bet that the gun was used in a previous murder???

 

[ALIVE]

Seriously? Someone is lying? Gee, that has never happened at a bar, EVER!

geee taking a check 10k from a person using lies happens every day

and if the law firm put kim in the paper room for just knowing that jimmy was going to air an advertising what they will do to her for scamming people??

and the precious image of the law firm???
that was their main concern that jimmy advertising hurt their image

 

[trmiv]

Are you seriously this delusional? Are you seriously asking how it is legal to defend yourself from attack with a gun? Assuming it is not is the idiotic assumption dumbasses made in other recent cases that belong in P&N.

As far as registration goes, in many states I could buy one and give it to my spouse or parent for protection and the registration does not need to be updated (private sale or transfer).

My assumption on the gun seeing that it was Tuco's, was that the serial number was removed.

 

[ALIVE]

You've never been around old people, have you?

they are in a retirement home
that forces them to sleep
so no tv for them at night

they are not old people living in their houses with freedom

they have a schedule to obey

 

[CZroe]

My assumption on the gun seeing that it was Tuco's, was that the serial number was removed.

Is that in the list of charges? Possession of a gun with the serial number defaced/removed is at least as serious as assault.

 

[CZroe]

i do not live in usa

i do not know if you need to register the gun

but the gun belongs to a criminal

do you think admitting to be your gun will be easy picky???



we know that tuco killed a man a few years ago

do you think it can be the same gun??



so lets see the situation

2 people are arguing about the cars

and 1 pulls his gun to settle things

and then the other beat the hell out of him??



or the story can go

we were arguing about the cars he start hitting me and i pulled my gun



either way why you disagree

when mike says that admitting it was his gun it will cause him problems

and salamandra replying ex cops are dealt different



so it does not matter what you say or what are the laws in usa

mike saying its his gun will land him on trouble period



thats why the cartel was going to pay him money for the inconvenience his is going to have



mike will admit it was his gun

he will have legal troubles

and jimmy will come for the rescue



so how wants to bet that the gun was used in a previous murder???

You don't have to live in the USA to understand the logic behind self defense. A gun is effective for self defense specifically because it tips the scales in favor of the one wielding it regardless of their physical prowess.

IOW, the weak can defend themselves against the strong by using a gun to tip the scales. It isn't an escalation thing. You have no obligation to sustain injury or risk before taking action to prevent injury by defending yourself.

 

[ALIVE]

Is that in the list of charges? Possession of a gun with the serial number defaced/removed is at least as serious as assault.

well the full extend of problem we will see it when mike accepts the gun was his
but he is going to definitely have problem

 

[ALIVE]

You don't have to live in the USA to understand the logic behind self defense. A gun is effective for self defense specifically because it tips the scales in favor of the one wielding it regardless of their physical prowess.

IOW, the weak can defend themselves against the strong by using a gun to tip the scales. It isn't an escalation thing. You have no obligation to sustain injury or risk before taking action to prevent injury by defending yourself.

yes and the story can go both ways
you either pull it to defend yourself
or you pull it to bully the other

yes a gun can help even the scale
but in order to be effective you need to have some distance between you and the threat
or else things can go really bad
pulling a gun in zero distance is just calling for trouble

the real problem is the gun
not the pulling action
THE GUN WILL BE THE ISSUE
after all tuco will not have a legit gun, and we know he killed someone with a gun

and by the way here the law cause to appropriate response
meaning you can not escalate things because you can
you have the right to defend yourself but but
you need to be sure you only defend and not go to offense
because then from a victim you will be the attacker

 

[Rakehellion]

Why would Mike face any charges at all?

He's a legal gun owner. All he had to say is that he did not realize that it was the same gun they were charging Tuco with until he realized that it was missing, which he was too rattled to realize the day of.

Wait. Was the gun missing the serial number or something? I don't recall.

Probably. It also wasn't registered under Mike's name.

 

[CZroe]

Is that in the list of charges? Possession of a gun with the serial number defaced/removed is at least as serious as assault.

well the full extend of problem we will see it when mike accepts the gun was his

but he is going to definitely have problem

IIRC, they did go over the list of charges when they were estimating how much time he'd get and I don't remember that one.

 

[ALIVE]

Probably. It also wasn't registered under Mike's name.

its tuco gun so it is unregistered to anyone

maybe stolen
or most probably bought in the black market

what the possibilities tucos gun was bough legit lol

 

[Rakehellion]

its tuco gun so it is unregistered to anyone

maybe stolen
or most probably bought in the black market

what the possibilities tucos gun was bough legit lol

All of the above. No way anyone caught with that gun is evading jail time.

 

[ALIVE]

IIRC, they did go over the list of charges when they were estimating how much time he'd get and I don't remember that one.

tuco is getting 8 years for the gun charge
is said in the meeting with salamanca

show the episode to settle it
for what ever reason the owner of the gun will have an 8 year sentence

but because mike was an ex cup the police will go easy on him
thats the words salamanca used