Did you like BB? If so, tell us the ways you felt season 1 fell short for you and it will be easier to outline season 2 to you in a way that best informs you.
are there any non-fanboys that can tell me how season 2 was? I watched season 1 and was not impressed.
No.
Gus needs the cartel, he is not close to manufacturing his own meth supply at this point. If somebody messes with the status quo it could ruin his business. Gus always had the ability to whack Hector, it's not like he was in hiding. He couldn't do it because he needed Hector. Just like he wouldn't let the cartel kill Walt after Tuco got killed because he needed Walt. Gus was always about the bottom line, revenge was secondary.
No.
Gus needs the cartel, he is not close to manufacturing his own meth supply at this point. If somebody messes with the status quo it could ruin his business. Gus always had the ability to whack Hector, it's not like he was in hiding. He couldn't do it because he needed Hector. Just like he wouldn't let the cartel kill Walt after Tuco got killed because he needed Walt. Gus was always about the bottom line, revenge was secondary.
This....
I fast forwarded over some of the scenes but for the most part it held my interest. ...
Did you like BB? If so, tell us the ways you felt season 1 fell short for you and it will be easier to outline season 2 to you in a way that best informs you.
Good stuff.
What is the precise timeline of BCS anyway? 7 years prior from start of BrBa?
There are a lot of dull scenes where they are taking too long to set up a feeling or a thought. Ya, I get it after the first three seconds, move on to the next scene. I fast forward quite a bit.I liked BB but don't think it's the best show of all time. For me, it wasn't as cinematic and as high a quality as the top HBO shows. It was still very good though. Better Call Saul felt even more so like a normal TV show. Basically nothing was as good as BB, characters, writing, directing. I can't imagine season 2 is much different than season 1, but I've heard rave reviews so I'm kinda tempted to try it. I'm leaning towards disappointment but putting out some feelers...let me feel you perk
I liked BB but don't think it's the best show of all time. For me, it wasn't as cinematic and as high a quality as the top HBO shows. It was still very good though. Better Call Saul felt even more so like a normal TV show. Basically nothing was as good as BB, characters, writing, directing. I can't imagine season 2 is much different than season 1, but I've heard rave reviews so I'm kinda tempted to try it. I'm leaning towards disappointment but putting out some feelers...let me feel you perk
Now take your grubby paws out of the communal onion dip, heathen, and hand over that remote, because it's time for us who seldom fail to cover our genitals in public to watch a ten part Ken Burns documentary on the fascinating social and political history of macrame.
That's right, bitch, macrame.
Well, I guess you could call me a fanboy of both BB and BCS. It would hurt my tender and quivering sensibilities to hear you say so, but I am resigned to the fact that life can be cruel like that.
I admit, at times, I plaintively cry out, "Why?" Then I ululate like an Islamic widow. But none of that is germane to my point, which is that I'm not the best guy to guide you here.
I'll give it a shot anyway, because I'm just that kind of guy (I accept Paypal.)
For you, I'd say you're descending into the valley of disappointment, as it would go Top HBO>BB>BCS1>BCS2. Of course, this makes you a cultural Visigoth in my eyes, but as long as you forebear raiding our settlements and making off with our women, I'm ok with that.
Now take your grubby paws out of the communal onion dip, heathen, and hand over that remote, because it's time for us who seldom fail to cover our genitals in public to watch a ten part Ken Burns documentary on the fascinating social and political history of macrame.
That's right, bitch, macrame.
There are a lot of dull scenes where they are taking too long to set up a feeling or a thought. Ya, I get it after the first three seconds, move on to the next scene. I fast forward quite a bit.
I understand how you could feel that way but from my own subjective sense of aesthetics, I believe that when you do something like that, spend a lot of time on the ambiance and "feel" of a show, it should relate to something grander and more profound. Otherwise, it ends up coming across as self indulgent.I think normally I would feel the same. But I actually like the slow pacing of this show for some reason. I think it is just the fine details that are done so well. This show can make you laugh out of discomfort almost every episode. I can't imagine fast forwarding through any of it.
I understand how you could feel that way but from my own subjective sense of aesthetics, I believe that when you do something like that, spend a lot of time on the ambiance and "feel" of a show, it should relate to something grander and more profound. Otherwise, it ends up coming across as self indulgent.
I'll give two examples of what I mean, each on opposite ends of the spectrum. The first is Rectify, which milks ambiance for every last little titty twister they can throw in. And I love that show. Part of the reason is how they do it and honestly, I don't have the skills at this point to explain what makes their execution so different. But one thing I can point to is the fact that the soul consuming desperation, hopelessness and general sense of ennui is necessary to really communicate the main character's view of the world.
He's like the rat that, no matter which lever he pulls or side of the cage he cowers in, he knows that he's going to get a shock. And this creates a pervasive sense of helplessness that inevitably leads to his not caring about anything or anyone. Except unlike the rat, he somehow finds hope in the midst of his suffering.
On the other end of the spectrum you have something like Low Winter Sun which was canceled after one fairly short season. Now mind you, I could have watched 10 seasons of that shit, no problem, just because I loved the psychological pain, the sense of despair, the seemingly endless barren desolation. Different strokes . . . as they say.
But if I'm going to be honest, the subject matter didn't warrant such depth and introspection. It was incredibly well done and I could have wallowed in it for years, but it came off feeling self indulgent rather than profound.
I think BCS is somewhere in between. Sure, we're looking at the transformation of someone from one persona to another, at least on the surface. And they do a good job of capturing the visual analog of that transformation. But the ponderous approach doesn't seem justified by the subject matter.
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Chuck and Jimmy are the same? Jimmy knows what he is and embraces it but Chuck is just being a self-righteous dick.
It's a bit odd and a bit interesting that a really good chunk (I'd go so far as to say most) of the posts after the Season 2 finale aired have nothing to do with what was aired in the episode. You figure as many people in this thread are declaring how brilliant it is that every scene would a few pages of posts on it the Walking Dead or Game of Thrones does. I know I personally felt like so little happened in the episode of worth, but I can't help but feel this thread shows I'm not the only one.
It's a bit odd and a bit interesting that a really good chunk (I'd go so far as to say most) of the posts after the Season 2 finale aired have nothing to do with what was aired in the episode. You figure as many people in this thread are declaring how brilliant it is that every scene would a few pages of posts on it the Walking Dead or Game of Thrones does. I know I personally felt like so little happened in the episode of worth, but I can't help but feel this thread shows I'm not the only one.
It simply didn't feel like a finale. It set up future episodes with minor cliff hangers but not much else.
Yes and no, imo. Jimmy is brilliant at finding a way, while Chuck is brilliant at finding 'the right way'. Both can be some very stubborn and resourceful mofo's. They're both shaped by different events in their youth, and both have lives that are deeply effected by their own choices and decisions. While at the same time, both yearn for appreciation/love they felt they never got...Jimmy from Chuck, and Chuck from parents, and deep down, neither are malicious people.
Btw, what happened to Chuck's wife?