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M O M O

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Feb 25, 2000
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lol, i remember this scam. Scam was big here in arizona, ran into this scam twice in two different cities. I think i still have their paperwork for the speakers. If i find them i'll post a scan of the product invoice.

 

manko

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May 27, 2001
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I didn't go for this "deal" (DUH!), but a couple guys in a van approached me near Hollywood and Highland in Hollywood/LA a couple years back. In rush hour traffic, they motioned for me to roll down the window. I thought they were asking directions or something. The second they started their "cheap speakers" pitch, I rolled the window back up. That intersection was my daily commute, and on subsequent days I noticed the same van pulling the same thing on other drivers on that route.

5 or 6 years ago, I was in Little Tokyo (LA) and a homeless-looking guy came up to me with a Sony Handycam box. Tried to sell it to me for any price - "How much you got?" Luckily, I didn't have any money or I might've gone for it. I've since heard tons of stories about the old "rock in the box" trick.

Even Amex Blue can't protect you from these scams. Use your head!
 

divinemartyr

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Oct 18, 2000
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I have to admit I fell for the scam. The guys told the same story many of you have already typed out. I only had about $140-150 so I told them that's all I could pay but they refused to go lower than $200. I told them fine, I'll pay you $150 now and $50 on friday when I get paid. Gave him my cell phone number to call me that Friday. Needless to say he called me friday and after hearing them, they sounded ok but told him to go f!ck himself after finding out the speakers were on the internet for $209 brand new in the box.

The ones I got are not the same ones pictured on the ebay link, these were a little different. I opened them up and they DO indeed have a crossover, but definitely not the $1,299 they were advertised for on this guy's 'professional' ad. Either way I walked away with a pair of speakers for $150, they serve as nice surround speakers in my system for the time being.

dm
 

Branded

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Aug 10, 2000
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Same scam, different decade. I bought into this scam 10 years ago. Different speakers, but they sucked bad. Don't trust people off the street unless you can verify what it is you are buying. Even then, it could be some other scam.

Now I don't have to leave home to get scammed, I just jump on hot deals here. Ha Ha, I have gotten some hot deals and a few burns, but I keep coming back.
 

Nucleus111

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Dec 2, 2000
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This scam actually happened to me. I didn't buy though I was young and unaware of this at the time, probably about 10 yrs. ago.

 

iamme

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Jul 21, 2001
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Link

Purchased At descriptions:

"McDonalds, of all places"

"Bob Bardash's parking lot"

"BofA parking lot" "Bank of America Parking Lot" "First Merit Bank Parking" "parking lot of a bank one" (good strategy....your excuse: "sorry man, I don't have any money on me" his reply:"just withdraw some from the bank!&quot

"White Van Guy"

"the freakin blue van!"

"curbside"

Gosh, I remember getting approached twice in a week here in Michigan. I saw the "white van" actually passing cars trying to catch up w/ me. Finally at a light, he tried to get me to pull over. Of course, I was driving my 75 yr old grandmother somewhere, so she thought we were being carjacked.
 

kydar

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Jan 6, 2001
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<< arrested for what?

it is a scam, but what part is illegal?

i am not being a smart ass, i really want to know the legality of it.
>>



Peddling without a license. most likely. I can tell you exactly how these scams work. Maybe you've been approached by one of more guys selling stuff out of the back of their car/minivan/SUV. Maybe tools, speakers, even art. The pitch varies but it's always the same basic premise - they want to sell them to you for &quot;a lot less than they're worth.&quot; Sometimes they produce phony &quot;receipts&quot; or other &quot;proof&quot; of the items' values - just something they printed from MS Word. I'm not a lawyer so I don't know if misrepresenting a product's value breaks any laws. But soliciting without a license is illegal in most places. And not reporting sales tax is obviously not too cool with Uncle Sam.

So where do these people and their wares come from? They usually have a small office/warehouse where a bunch of them meet every morning. The merchandise isn't stolen - it's just very cheap junk bought at wholesale. They load up their vehicles and set out to sell the stuff. They'll travel anywhere up to an hour or two, usually try not to hit the same area two days in a row. Then they just hit the streets and start looking for &quot;goobers.&quot; That's what they call their customers. They sell what they can and head home, and do it all over again the next day.

These people are recruited in newspaper ads promising &quot;$500 a day if you can do the work&quot; and are led to believe they're interviewing for legitimate jobs. They usually show up in business suits. Then they're hit with the pitch - sell this junk out of the back of your car and make $100-500 a day. They pay a fixed price to their employer for the merchandise, and whatever they can sell it for over that is their profit. They use whatever sales pitch they feel like. They'll tell one person it's overstock, the next person the stuff it &quot;hot&quot; -- they'll just tell you whatever they think you want to hear in order to get you to buy it.

How do I know all this? Well (hangs head in shame) I was one of those guys selling junk out of the back of my car many, many, many years ago (I was 18). In my case it was tools. All made in Taiwan/Malaysia/etc, all extremely low quality. A set of wrenches that I'd pay $12 for from the company had a &quot;retail price&quot; of something like $59.99 printed on the package. I'd sell them for $20-30 ... whatever I could get. I was never any good at the job and quit after a couple weeks.

 

BooneRebel

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Mar 22, 2001
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I think the point should be:

DO NOT EVER BUY ANYTHING FROM SOMEONE WHO APPROACHES YOU IN A PARKING LOT, TRAFFIC, ETC. REGARDLESS OF THE DEAL YOU THINK YOU'RE GETTING. ITS A HUGE HUGE SCAM

This same sort of thing happens everyday by ripoff artists all over the country. By partcipating you are either a)voluntarily being ripped off, or b)willingly taking possession of stolen property.

Honest people don't approach you in a parking lot to get you to buy something. The same sort of scam is used by folks door-to-door who offer to do roofing work, or sell you steaks, etc.
 

dman

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One time the guy came into the PC Shop I worked at (mom and pop shop). Same story about the speakers are really cheap, he offered to my boss who said he wasn't interested, who then asked me if I might be, told the guy nope. That was the first time. No Regrets.

It's happened a few times since (last 5-6yrs), usually in parking lots somewhere or anothers. Usually it's speakers but I have been told there are other things like tools and whatnot. I just say no thanks and walk away.

How can you buy speakers w/o listening to them? To me, $500 speakers are no better than $100 speakers if I can't hear the difference. So, just because these are a really good deal doesn't mean they sound good.

What amazes me most, though, is not that people buy the speakers it's that this is a semi-organized nationwide business practice.
 

avhokie

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Feb 16, 2000
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I'll admit I got scammed. Different speakers (Acoustic Response or something that sounded like a good company back then). Paid $200. But I was young and stupid and learned from it. I'm going to email all the people on ebay and let them know.
 

Pothead

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Jan 8, 2001
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Heh, 2 yrs ago 2 guys tried selling me some speakers in a white van, they saw me driving a flashy sports car so they thought I had a lot of money or something, hah, well I also played along and they showed me them. I told them I couldn't afford but they didn't believe me. They got ripped at me and drove off pretending to hit my car by hitting thier own car with thier hands (making a bump sound), did they think they were cool?
 

claffeyb

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Mar 26, 2001
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Good grief - even at age 16 I knew not to listen to these guys and their deal [obviously the same couple of dudes in the same white van criss-crossing the country looking for beer money]. C'mon, get real!

On the other hand, I doubt there's but a couple of guys in this forum that haven't been burnt one way or another online [cough cough cyberrecr@p, fleabay, for sale forum]. At least many of these kind of deals seem almost feasible.

Hoping not to have been scammed by the $700 in Staples rebates owed!

Oh, I just noticed the appropriate icon for this topic ---->
 

DerProfi

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Jan 11, 2001
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I came across this speaker scam about 18 years ago while working at my tasty (lol) Pizza Hut job in high school. Guys pulled in and tried to sucker all the employees hanging out smoking behind the building. Fortunately, the &quot;wise&quot; older guy among us told the rest of us not to do it. Although I will admit to buying fireworks out of some guy's trunk a few months later. They, however, worked as advertised!

Funny thing is, I haven't been hit with a similar scam until about 1 year ago. Getting out of my car in a parking lot and these guys in a minivan want to sell me some &quot;excess&quot; SEAFOOD of all things. Hmmm.....it's 100 degrees in the shade, and you expect me to buy shellfish out of the back of your MINIVAN??
 

gigapet

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Aug 9, 2001
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happened to me two weeks ago in CT ........i was very close to buying cuz they offered to let me listne to them first so then I was like wait no I am not allowing these sketballs to see where I live then called my buddy working at tweeter and just laughed and laughed and said tell them to get the hell away from you with that crap. My favorite quote was &quot;they're mad of titanium man that sh*t they use to build the space shuttles&quot;......lol.....sorry dude
 

emonkey

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Dec 2, 1999
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yeah. there are these guys that cruise the lakewood best buy doing this every few days. i wonder if anyone ever bites.
 

MontyBurns

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Feb 29, 2000
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claffeyb: You make an excellent point. It's hilarious now how so many people were viciously attacking others (like me) who said all along that CyberRebate was a disaster waiting to happen. They had all this &quot;proof&quot; that their money would be safe. Then when everything collapsed, they were nowhere to be found.

 

Britboy

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Jul 25, 2001
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We had guys coming round my area selling meat using the same kind of tatics - Had some left after deliveries and wanting to pocket the cash. 'Both of us are winners' line. Well, no, a friend bought some and they were the ropiest little steaks I have ever eaten! Speaker scam is a new one on me though....

I agree on that cyberrebate thing. I expected them to float off to some far away land with everyones money rather than go bankrupt but either way, I would never give a company thousands of my dollars, especially not a dotcom!
 

peterframpton69

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Jul 24, 2001
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Always carry a pen and paper in car. Get license plates and description. Usually, these kind of people have a police rap sheet and they are running from the polease.
 

rml

Lifer
Jul 6, 2000
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>This is a fairly well known scam

Yes it is.

I got approached by one 11 years ago when I don't even have a Stereo System. His pitch: &quot;Free Speakers, Free Speakers&quot;

Then several years ago, 4 times at traffic light pitching &quot;Free Speakers&quot;

Now people pitch &quot;Cheap Speakers&quot; instead of &quot;Free&quot;

There was a TV News Investigation report on those speakers 4 years ago.
The TV crews even show a booth selling 19&quot; TV at 50% off original price. They set up a booth with 10 TV boxes and one real TV on top of those boxes. All boxes looks NEW. So many people bought it without opening the TV box. Then the camera man follows those people and stop them and ask them to open the box. And found out that there is a big weight/stone taped to the box.

My advice: Just be careful!
 

dirtrat

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Oct 9, 1999
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This is a variation of the &quot;White Van&quot; speaker scam. Its been around for many years and is very well known among the audiophile community.


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DoubleN

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Aug 8, 2000
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Dang! Sorry to hear about the scam...I'm going to definitely let my friends know about this one as I'm sure a few of them might be tempted by this &quot;too good to be true&quot; deal.
 
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