BF1 @ 1080p 60hz - 2600k @ 4.5ghz, 8GB Ram, GTX 960 2GB

RichUK

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Will I be able to run BF1 at high /ultra settings with good frame rate on this setup?

Monitors is 1080p 60hz.
 

Bacon1

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Maybe high probably not Ultra due to only 2GB of vram.

Try it out though BF1 is very well optimized and your CPU should do well.
 

RichUK

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Maybe high probably not Ultra due to only 2GB of vram.

Try it out though BF1 is very well optimized and your CPU should do well.

Haven't bought the CPU yet. I'm looking to purchase a tactical upgrade to see me through until the 7700k / Z270 gets released early next year.

Currently have a q6600 and 3gb of ram with the gtx 960, and BF1 destroys it at the moment.
 

Bacon1

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Haven't bought the CPU yet. I'm looking to purchase a tactical upgrade to see me through until the 7700k / Z270 gets released early next year.

Currently have a q6600 and 3gb of ram with the gtx 960, and BF1 destroys it at the moment.


Oh, how much are you paying for that processor? It is very old at this point so while its solid, might not be worth the price depending on how much it is.

Might try to get a 3000 or 4000. But yeah its probably the 3GB of RAM as well holding you back, BF games have generally been RAM heavy.
 

crisium

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2011's BF3 stressed my 4GB RAM (technically less than that cause of 32-bit) system to the max. That is definitely a huge issue now!
 

RichUK

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Oh, how much are you paying for that processor? It is very old at this point so while its solid, might not be worth the price depending on how much it is.

Might try to get a 3000 or 4000. But yeah its probably the 3GB of RAM as well holding you back, BF games have generally been RAM heavy.

To make it worth it, in my mind, it would be an eBay special - 2600k, mobo, 8GB Ram for around £160 where as the 6700k is £330 just for the processor.
 

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To make it worth it, in my mind, it would be an eBay special - 2600k, mobo, 8GB Ram for around £160 where as the 6700k is £330 just for the processor.

Yeah if you get a great deal on the stuff go for it, just didn't want you to overpay for old (but still good) tech. It should run much much better with 8gb RAM vs 3 for sure and 2600k @ 4.5 is no slouch
 
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RichUK

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After a load of research and consideration, I think I might just go with the 6700k now.

The 2600k / mobo / ram eBay bundles aren't working it as cheap as I'd hoped.
 

happy medium

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Haven't bought the CPU yet. I'm looking to purchase a tactical upgrade to see me through until the 7700k / Z270 gets released early next year.

Why not just grab a Z170 board and a 119$ i3 6100 for now and when the 7700k comes just pop it in your Z170 board when its released? theres little to no difference.
An i3 6100 and your gtx960 overclocked should easily give you over 50 fps minimum, using the high settings, not ultra.
 

RichUK

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Why not just grab a Z170 board and a 119$ i3 6100 for now and when the 7700k comes just pop it in your Z170 board when its released? theres little to no difference.
An i3 6100 and your gtx960 overclocked should easily give you over 50 fps minimum, using the high settings, not ultra.

The 6100 is only dual core, surely that would struggle in BF1? I thought quad core was a bare minimum for this game.
 

Bacon1

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The 6100 is only dual core, surely that would struggle in BF1? I thought quad core was a bare minimum for this game.

It will definitely limit you, plus cost you extra because you won't need to upgrade to a 7xxx series if you already have a 6700k.





I'm sure frametimes are much worse in MP as well since MP really puts a huge load on cards and even i5s have issues.
 

RichUK

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It will definitely limit you, plus cost you extra because you won't need to upgrade to a 7xxx series if you already have a 6700k.





I'm sure frametimes are much worse in MP as well since MP really puts a huge load on cards and even i5s have issues.

Hmmmm. My options are a limited cost interim build or just go full fat now with 6700k. Hmmm
 

happy medium

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The 6100 is only dual core, surely that would struggle in BF1? I thought quad core was a bare minimum for this game.
I have a i3 6100 and its perfectly fine for BF1, I also have a gtx960 (mine is 4gb).
If you are thinking of buying a Z170 system I suggest fast ddr4 ram (ddr4 3000 or higher), it brings your minimum fps up as well as your avg.
My gtx 960 will limit my system before the i3 6100 will , most of the time, depending on the game.
I am also upgrading to a 7700k when it comes out.
 
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RichUK

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I have a i3 6100 and its perfectly fine for BF1, I also have a gtx960 (mine is 4gb).
If you are thinking of buying a Z170 system I suggest fast ddr4 ram (ddr4 3000 or higher), it brings your minimum fps up as well as your avg.
My gtx 960 will limit my system before the i3 6100 will , most of the time, depending on the game.
I am also upgrading to a 7700k when it comes out.

Thanks, appreciate your input. I'm going to do a bit of research, but really like this option as a stop gap while waiting for the 7700k.

I may come back with some questions. Cheers.
 

tential

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Is the difference between the 6700k and the 7700k worth the wait?

That's the first question you should answer for yourself. I lean towards no, I only think it's worth waiting if you're a mobile user for new processor lines now.
 

happy medium

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Is the difference between the 6700k and the 7700k worth the wait?

That's the first question you should answer for yourself. I lean towards no, I only think it's worth waiting if you're a mobile user for new processor lines now.

I think the real question is will the 8700k (cannonlake) plug into the 1151 socket? Mabe a broadwell like upgrade like we had for Haswell.

7600k @ 5.1 @ 1.3 volts. Looks like a good upgrade to me.
http://www.xfastest.com/thread-178876-1-1.html
 

happy medium

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So you're saying he should wait for the 7600k?

You think there will be a noticeable difference in gaming between Skylake and kabylake?

No,thats his choice.
No I think we will see a 10% performance increase with Kabylake, overclock vs overclock.
So far my i3 6100 is doing just fine. If I need more power, I overclock it.
 

RichUK

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So after the advice / idea from 'happy medium' and some research, I decided to go with an i3 6100, Asrock Z170 Pro4s and Corsair Vengeance LED (2x8GB) 3000Mhz (Asrock website confirmed compatibility with this exact memory which guided my purchase). All this cost me less than the i7 6700k processor alone, lol.

My original setup LOL!: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/944945

My new setup: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/951385

The absolute best OC I could achieve was 4.5Ghz with memory at 2600Mhz / 15-17-17-35 2T. No additional voltage would boost the i3 OC and i think the BCLK is holding back the memory which is clocked 400Mhz slower than its XMP profile - tightening the times wouldn't work as it crashed prime after about 2 hours. This OC is 13 hours prime stable:



The acid test - I can now play BF1 on 'ultra' settings at a constant 60fps (monitor is 1080p 60hz) on 64 player maps with no issues whatsoever (FPS counter at top right):

(Note, i still have room to OC the graphics card as it's stock, but don't need to - result!)

(screenshots were taken in not so busy areas to prevent getting killed, but even at busy checkpoints under siege it stays solid at 60fps - on 64 player maps).



 
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VirtualLarry

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That sounds GREAT!

Enjoy your i3. A lot of people asked me when I got my rig (very similar to yours, Z170 Pro4S and "SKY OC"), why I didn't get the i3. Maybe I should have, but I don't game much. I have a G4400 @ 4.45Ghz (never really tried to push it much harder, it's at a nice round 135 BCLK now). RAM is I think 2520 or 2600, something like that. It's rated at 2400, so it's slightly OCed, which causes the BIOS to increase the timings to compensate.
 

happy medium

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So after the advice / idea from 'happy medium' and some research, I decided to go with an i3 6100, Asrock Z170 Pro4s and Corsair Vengeance LED (2x8GB) 3000Mhz (Asrock website confirmed compatibility with this exact memory which guided my purchase). All this cost me less than the i7 6700k processor alone, lol.

My original setup LOL!: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/944945

My new setup: https://browser.geekbench.com/v4/cpu/951385

The absolute best OC I could achieve was 4.5Ghz with memory at 2600Mhz / 15-17-17-35 2T. No additional voltage would boost the i3 OC and i think the BCLK is holding back the memory which is clocked 400Mhz slower than its XMP profile - tightening the times wouldn't work as it crashed prime after about 2 hours. This OC is 13 hours prime stable:



The acid test - I can now play BF1 on 'ultra' settings at a constant 60fps (monitor is 1080p 60hz) on 64 player maps with no issues whatsoever (FPS counter at top right):

(Note, i still have room to OC the graphics card as it's stock, but don't need to - result!)

(screenshots were taken in not so busy areas to prevent getting killed, but even at busy checkpoints under siege it stays solid at 60fps - on 64 player maps).




That's just great to hear, gotta love the i3 6100 @ 4.5, a hidden gem.
Nice multiplayer scores too!. Enjoy your system, I know I do, and so does my wallet.

For future reference my research has shown me that a i3 6100 @ 4.5 will push a video card up to a gtx1060 overclocked which is 75% faster than our gtx960's. Your gtx960 should reach 1500 ghz on the core and at least 7500 memory, it should add 15% to you scores/games.
 
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