Well then, take it how you like.
But if you think there is the same amount of innovation between the two games, I have nothing to say. I'm floored, really.
Well then, take it how you like.This is what you said, word for word:
"but do you really need a review for MW3? The gameplay will be pretty similar to the first two"
sounds like bashing to me, especially when you criticize the CoD series for it but expound the virtues of BF3 when it does the same thing.
Your card a 1gb model?
Hard to believe so much has changed from beta to final release.
Had a 2500k oced and a vanilla 9800gtx 512mb oced and best it did was 1440x900 all low
Hardlocked if i went any higher.
Good job using a beta to come up with your ingenious conclusions... EA stated it was primarily for making sure their infrastructure was capable of handling the load of launching the game. Metro is not very indicative of most of the game play in the game. But let's not bring logic into this, that wouldn't go along with your agenda.
What specific issues are you referring to?
Honestly, my initial impressions were terrible. I thought the movement was slow, and I couldn't aim or hit anything for the life of me. Then I realized it was because I had such low fps because I didn't have crossfire enabled and the settings were too high. After starting to get respectable frame rates, the differences were night and day. I'd describe the gameplay a mix of BF2, BC2 and COD. The movement is MUCH quicker and weapon feel and effectiveness is a lot closer to COD/CS:S feeling than any previous battlefield game. It's by FAR the best Battlefield game to date when it comes to infantry combat. This game has come a looooong way from BF2 with regards to that.
What are the specific things you didn't like? That, and what kind of hardware are you running?well buy me a copy and i'll try it out. otherwise the beta is all i'm going to use to base it off of because there's no way i'm spending any more money on a bf game.
I believed people when they said BC2 was good and was different than BF2. It was exactly the same, if not worse.
I would like to get a comment on what I wrote earlier:
So to beat COD they had to become more like it? How many maps in BF3 are really the huge, vehicle-loaded maps that the Battlefield series is known for? I don't have the game yet, but from what I understand there are only 3 maps like that. The rest are smaller and COD-style crap like Op Metro. Even the large map I tried in the beta, Caspian Border, I found to be dull and uninspired. I'll wait for this game to hit $30.
I really would like to know, how many of the maps are the huge kind loaded with all types of vehicles? I won't pay $60 for a game that only has 3 or 4 true Battlefield style maps.
We're too busy playing the game to come on a forum to expound on it's virtues.
Back in the day there was a great FPS called Tribes2.
You wanted to find a match, you connected to the master server, found a map you wanted to play on, made sure that there was space, and clicked enter.
Yeah, well even the professional reviewers who are getting paid to tell us admit the game doesn't live up the hype EA used. You'd think PC gamers would finally catch on that all these companies are using them to promote console games.
I'm still trying to find anything Battlefield like in BF3.
I haven't touched the MP yet
What are the specific things you didn't like? That, and what kind of hardware are you running?
Exactly. Why even post, DeathReborn????
not sure if serious..
Don't bother with him. He does this in every thread. He says BF series has not changed at all yet loves CoD which is literally the exact same game 4 years running with an engine that's 6yrs old. We already know the things that are different from older Battlefields like destructible environments and all the new ways to deal with vehicles and many other things but he doesn't care so just ignore him.
I would like to get a comment on what I wrote earlier:
So to beat COD they had to become more like it? How many maps in BF3 are really the huge, vehicle-loaded maps that the Battlefield series is known for? I don't have the game yet, but from what I understand there are only 3 maps like that. The rest are smaller and COD-style crap like Op Metro. Even the large map I tried in the beta, Caspian Border, I found to be dull and uninspired. I'll wait for this game to hit $30.
I really would like to know, how many of the maps are the huge kind loaded with all types of vehicles? I won't pay $60 for a game that only has 3 or 4 true Battlefield style maps.
You have to UNLOCK flares and missiles for the jets they don't come with them.......
That's what I heard, and that is just lame.
Just a couple of things, and first my bias - I own all of the COD games for my 360. I really liked the SP, but never enjoyed the MP much at all. I've owned all of the BF games except 2142 and BFBC, all on PC except BFBC2 and BF1943, and I greatly prefer BF MP over the years, even with the imabalances, etc etc. I loved BF1942, DC, BFV, and BF1943. I am not that great at or in love with the more modern setting games.
That said:
1) I am very curious how well this engine will scale. How will it look and play 2-3 CPU/GPU generations from now? I think DICE/EA is shooting for it to have that level of longevity. Have they scaled the game back for release and can patch in more detail as the hardware catches up? I think it's not arguable that they've already made one such decision with PC voicechat.
2) I dont worry much about minor release day glitches. The game has a couple, and I am sure the netcode could be cleaned up even more. Then there's the PB thing. Those are fixable. It's not crap right now and it plays very well as it is.
3) Game feels a little skittish right now. Lower grade weapons, unfamiliarity with maps, and a lack of teamplay. Those things will improve with unlocks and familiarity. I expect teamplay to really improve in the next 6-9 mos.
4) I agree some on the vehicles comments. Old BF there were a plethora of vehicles with fast respawns on most every map. I loved loved loved Wake Island for that reason.
5) BRING BACK IN GAME MUSIC like Battlefield Vietnam had. I guess it was a little overdone, but man do I miss playing Flight of the valkyries as I rolled into an opposing cap point on a VC scooter.
6) I miss the command rose. I realize it's not really necessary with voicechat, but we don't have that. Implement one or the other.
All in all, this is a great game though. Witha few realtively simple fixes, it'll be perfect. COD does one type of gameplay, extraordinarily well, but that's not me. I do not like deathmatch - I like Conquest the most followed by Rush, but mostly, I love the added dimension of vehicles and improvising with them as much as possible to obtain objectives, rather than chasing the highest killcount or K: D ratio. So for me, this game is bliss.