BFG Asylum GeForce FX 5900 $184.49

[MattCoz]

I think I'm gonna wait until newegg has it back in stock, considering they have pictures of the actual Call of Duty disc on the product page I think it'll definitely come with it.

Box with sticker
Call of Duty CD in with accessories

Hopefully it actually does come back into stock on the 3rd like they say.

 

[HFC]

Originally posted by: zerodeefex
Okay everyone, there is something that is making me REALLY confused here. The package without COD is *NOT* OEM! There are two versions of the retail card, one that came with COD and one that didn't! So are some people actually getting OEM cards from gamve (typically a brown box with no cables/manuals, etc, just a bare card), or are they getting the retail box that just doesn't come with CoD?

The OEM that I received got "OEM" printed on the invoice. It was in a retail box but without shrinkwrap. There was no VIVO doggle and no CoD.

 

[Zebo]

GAmeVE is a piss poor operation.

Yes my card came dead yesterday but that's not my main issue with them... that can be fixed plus I have killer protection with my CC if not.


I'd like to talk about the card "deal" in general. No where on thier
site does it say OEM version and what I got was OEM. No shrink wrap and no
call of duty CD is the give away dispite having a retail box instead of
brown/white box. This is basically fraud on thier part. When a product is
listed on thier site a resonable customer expects full retail verions and
packageing unless specified OEM verion very clearly, as they seem to do with
many of thier other products. Newegg and every reputable site clearly lists OEM for OEM products.
Not them. "Lets not list anything and see if we get customers to bite" is thier attitude.

Third I'd like to talk about the shipping container. All it was was a fedex "LARGE"
box with no, I mean zero, packing material which left the boxed card about 10" to move
about freely. This is an aweful way of shipping and I hope it's addressed
and probably explains why my card is DOA.

Let you know on monday what they say to these issues.

 

[HFC]

Originally posted by: Zebo
GAmeVE is a piss poor operation.

.

I reutned mine and expect to loss the restocking fee.

 

[UCSDHappyAsian]

loved it

 

[Razorguts]

Originally posted by: UCSDHappyAsian
loved it

Wanna elaborate on that?

These posts have me scared about gameve now because I just ordered mine on thursday... hope it comes retail and not DOA.

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: HFC

Originally posted by: Zebo
GAmeVE is a piss poor operation.

.

I reutned mine and expect to loss the restocking fee.

Expect is right, you will plus some. http://www.gameve.com/gve/store/help.aspx (this page is hard to find for good reason)

"* All REFUNDS, including DEFECTIVE and DOA Merchandise, WILL BE charged a 15% Restocking Fee ."

and

"* There will be an additional $6 deduction after restocking fee for items with "FREE SHIPPING" promotion."

So my bet is you will be charged $25.50 for restocking in addition to $6.00 for shipping. = $31.50. KEEP THE CARD DUDE> and that does'nt even include what you will pay to ship it back to them.



Alternativly, seek a 100% refund and mailing label from them. You start this by contacting your CC company and mention the fraud perpetrated by gameve.com.

 

[HFC]

Originally posted by: Zebo<br

KEEP THE CARD DUDE

Too late, it already went....

 

[Razorguts]

For those that got defective cards (either from GameVE or other places), I thought that BFG was supposedly top-notch with their customer support - 24-7, tool free lines, etc... why not try to get help from them? Something in the CS fine print that rules this out?

 

[Homerboy]

Shhh... (with CoD!!!)

Congratulations, your requested item is in-stock at the time of this
notification:


item Number:N82E16814143008
description:VGA BFG|FX5900 128MB DVI TV AGP RT


You may use the following link to find and order it online.


http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproduct.asp?description=14-143-008

 

[MattCoz]

I can't decide between the 5900 for $175 and the 9800 Pro for $229.

 

[Homerboy]

5900
Ive got mine running at 480/1000 right now. Cant beat that for $175 shipped witha game you could turn around and sell for $25 if you didnt want it.

 

[MattCoz]

Yeah, I just decided that and it went out of stock. Son of a #@%&*!!

 

[metechjunkie]

BuyExtremeGear.com has it back in stock, but now it clears states it a OEM version on the website. I just called and confirmed, they are now shipping OEM only.

 

[Chunkee]

is this card faster (better) than a Radeon 9800 non pro?

 

[Homerboy]

Originally posted by: Chunkee
is this card faster (better) than a Radeon 9800 non pro?

That question is going to start (another) flame war. Lets just say they are arguablly both equal and that biases and personal preferences play A LOT into "deciding" which one is "better".

performance per $ IMHO the 5900 is better.

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: Chunkee
is this card faster (better) than a Radeon 9800 non pro?

at stock speeds, no.. i'd say the the dx 8 speeds are negligible, w/ 5900 maybe slightly faster in some, slightly slower in others, but the 9800np runs ps2 better and takes less of a performance hit running af/aa, with nvidia's af being a bit better, and ati's aa being a bit better.

the 9800np is also a physically smaller card for those where room inside the case is a consideration. it's also more expensive than the bfg 5900nu in particular.

the big difference is all the bfg 5900's seem to be able to o/c to 5950u speeds, or very close to it, which is why there has been so much talk on the AT boards about this since the card hit the 160-70 pricepoint, making it IMO a far better value, being able to approach 5950/9800xt performance.

haven't read alot of success stories on the 9800np.

 

[pxc]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
the 9800np runs ps2 better and takes less of a performance hit running af/aa, with nvidia's af being a bit better, and ati's aa being a bit better.

It's funny when that is repeated over and over with the poster not even understanding why. The R2x0/R3x0 have never applied AF at the level chosen throughout the entire image. That's been pointed out in countless reviews. The problem is that NVIDIA would be crucified if they did the same thing.

IMO, the lines at the filtering level boundaries are very ugly to look at on ATi cards. Every time I buy one that always sticks out.

 

[starknaked]

Alright, what the heck happened at newegg? I got an email at 11:30am today saying they had the bfg 5900 in stock again. I just checked now, shortly before 4pm, and the link is now broken, and a search on it shows they no longer have it at all.

Could they have sold out in 4 1/2 hours? Did anyone manage to buy from them today?

Fortunately for me, I suppose (assuming everything works out ok), I ordered from gameve.com last friday.

 

[Razorguts]

Originally posted by: starknaked
Fortunately for me, I suppose (assuming everything works out ok), I ordered from gameve.com last friday.

Yeah I ordered from GameVE.com last friday as well, got a fedex tracking number, should be here tomorrow (and I live in Memphis, HQ of FedEx, so I usually get stuff a bit quicker).

Man, not to scare us folks that ordered from GameVE, but Ive been reading up on their ratings (not just resellerratings, but the BBB as well, and those at pricewatch), and a *very* common theme is the arrival of dead vidcards. Something just doesnt add up here. Tales of unanswered emails/calls, having to bring in BBB to get 100% refunds (even on defective items), claims of getting OEM when duped into thinking it's retail, paying 15% restock as well as return ship for defective items.... Sheesh, I feel like a sucker now. And what's worse, the gameve website claims to have been in business for something like 17years. But the BBB report says it has only been in business since october of '02. Sure, maybe some fledgling company of a larger parent company, but it's misleading nonetheless...

Better Business Bureau report on GameVE

We'll see what happens...

 

[CaiNaM]

Originally posted by: pxc

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
the 9800np runs ps2 better and takes less of a performance hit running af/aa, with nvidia's af being a bit better, and ati's aa being a bit better.

It's funny when that is repeated over and over with the poster not even understanding why. The R2x0/R3x0 have never applied AF at the level chosen throughout the entire image. That's been pointed out in countless reviews. The problem is that NVIDIA would be crucified if they did the same thing.

IMO, the lines at the filtering level boundaries are very ugly to look at on ATi cards. Every time I buy one that always sticks out.

i understand exactly what i am stating.

that nvidia's aniso has better image quality, but takes a bigger performance hit than ati.

that ati has better fsaa imo (tho in 90% of the cases the difference is negligible) AND doesn't impact performance as adversely as nv's.

that ati is clearly superior in pixel shader 2 (even running forceware 53.03), having taken the generic dx9 codepath, rather than nvidia's "custom" ps codepath which no developers want to take the time to optimize for. the fact ati uses 24b and nv uses 32b or 16b explains some of the discrepency in performance. (so is the ps iq better with nv's 32b implementation?) whether this can be fixed by nvidia in software remains to be seen, but you would think this would require running the 16b mode, which would then mean ati's 24b implementation would have better quality. this of course all remains to be seen, however nv's shader performance IS inferior to ati's when ti comes to this, tho at this point the gap is not as wide as it was when this was first brought to light 3-4 months ago.

 

[Corporate Thug]

Originally posted by: starknaked
Alright, what the heck happened at newegg? I got an email at 11:30am today saying they had the bfg 5900 in stock again. I just checked now, shortly before 4pm, and the link is now broken, and a search on it shows they no longer have it at all.

Could they have sold out in 4 1/2 hours? Did anyone manage to buy from them today?

Fortunately for me, I suppose (assuming everything works out ok), I ordered from gameve.com last friday.

thats exactly what happened


a lot of people were anticipating newegg getting it back in stock so they sold out really fast

 

[axemanxt40]

Originally posted by: Razorguts

Originally posted by: starknaked
Fortunately for me, I suppose (assuming everything works out ok), I ordered from gameve.com last friday.

Yeah I ordered from GameVE.com last friday as well, got a fedex tracking number, should be here tomorrow (and I live in Memphis, HQ of FedEx, so I usually get stuff a bit quicker).

Man, not to scare us folks that ordered from GameVE, but Ive been reading up on their ratings (not just resellerratings, but the BBB as well, and those at pricewatch), and a *very* common theme is the arrival of dead vidcards. Something just doesnt add up here. Tales of unanswered emails/calls, having to bring in BBB to get 100% refunds (even on defective items), claims of getting OEM when duped into thinking it's retail, paying 15% restock as well as return ship for defective items.... Sheesh, I feel like a sucker now. And what's worse, the gameve website claims to have been in business for something like 17years. But the BBB report says it has only been in business since october of '02. Sure, maybe some fledgling company of a larger parent company, but it's misleading nonetheless...

Better Business Bureau report on GameVE

We'll see what happens...

Yeh see last week I was very eager to order my card...BUT I was really nervous with gameve and buyxtremegear.com. They have very mixed resellerratings, gameve in particular has a unsatisfactory BBB record and buyxtremegear.com wasn't that much better. So I just waited, and today newegg.com got it in stock...and that was by far the fastest order I ever placed online because I just knew that this thing was going to sell out by the end of tonight. To my suprise it sold out 15 minutes later lol!

 

[metechjunkie]

Originally posted by: CaiNaM

Originally posted by: pxc

Originally posted by: CaiNaM
the 9800np runs ps2 better and takes less of a performance hit running af/aa, with nvidia's af being a bit better, and ati's aa being a bit better.

It's funny when that is repeated over and over with the poster not even understanding why. The R2x0/R3x0 have never applied AF at the level chosen throughout the entire image. That's been pointed out in countless reviews. The problem is that NVIDIA would be crucified if they did the same thing.

IMO, the lines at the filtering level boundaries are very ugly to look at on ATi cards. Every time I buy one that always sticks out.

i understand exactly what i am stating.

that nvidia's aniso has better image quality, but takes a bigger performance hit than ati.

that ati has better fsaa imo (tho in 90% of the cases the difference is negligible) AND doesn't impact performance as adversely as nv's.

that ati is clearly superior in pixel shader 2 (even running forceware 53.03), having taken the generic dx9 codepath, rather than nvidia's "custom" ps codepath which no developers want to take the time to optimize for. the fact ati uses 24b and nv uses 32b or 16b explains some of the discrepency in performance. (so is the ps iq better with nv's 32b implementation?) whether this can be fixed by nvidia in software remains to be seen, but you would think this would require running the 16b mode, which would then mean ati's 24b implementation would have better quality. this of course all remains to be seen, however nv's shader performance IS inferior to ati's when ti comes to this, tho at this point the gap is not as wide as it was when this was first brought to light 3-4 months ago.

YEAH! what he said!???!!! what does all that mean??? good? bad?

 

[MattCoz]

I got the email at 1:30pm CST, I started my order, I had it in my cart, and it sold out before I got to checkout. That was at 2:15pm CST. Insane. I hope they get it back.