Originally posted by: HFC
The 590nu from gameve is an OEM! I am returning it!
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: M0NEYSH0T
In reply to the 5900 being a weak card that is complete lies from an ATI fanboy. The card is a very good overclocker, in most tests with current drivers beating or being a close tie to 9700 pro performance, except in a few cases of AA/AF turned all way up.
Look, if you ant price and LESS quality, go 5900. If you like PERFORMANCE, QUALITY, AND EYE CANDY, go ATI.
I told you, I have BOTH... d0y. The 9800 is the BEST performer and shows the BEST eye candy.
If you like jagged edges, go 5900...
OK HOMER BOY! Biased? I have BOTH cards... So how is THAT biased?What a completely biased and BS post.
lol.. talk about asinine statements from a fanboy.
i have the 5900nu and the 9700pro; overclocking both, the oc'd 5900 spanks the 9700 pro in almost all areas.
graphics quality? the 9700 imo has a sublte advantange in aa (cat 3.10 vs forceware 53.03), and the 5900 has slightly better texture filtering (while i don't see it when gaming, most reviews state ati's text filtering performs a bit better). overall 3d quality? comparing both running the same time next to each other, you really couldn't tell which pc was running which card.
2d quality? most reviewers give the ati a slight nod in this area, tho they all pretty much say both are excellent. honestly, i would have to scrutinize to tell the difference; they're that comparable.
price? 5900 wins hands down. this is a card for $170 that is running at 5950u/9800xt speeds, for almost $300 less - and it comes with vivo, 24/7 toll free support and a lifetime warranty (and, if you're lucky, a free copy of CoD). now tell me, how is THAT a bad thing?
they're both great cards, and while the ati might have a bit of a performance advantage in ps2 benchies, there is no better value in the $150-170 price range right now. in all honesty, with next-gen cards upcoming in the next few months, spending $450 on a 9800xt/5950u right now is not a very smart way to spend your money - especially when a card for $300 less has 90% of the performance...
edit: btw, the "lifetime" warranty is not like PNY, where once the card is no longer "mainstream", it no longer has a "Life". under bfg's warranty, they will replace it with the next closet "next" gen card, all warranties should be that good.
Originally posted by: princejoe
Originally posted by: CaiNaM
Originally posted by: M0NEYSH0T
In reply to the 5900 being a weak card that is complete lies from an ATI fanboy. The card is a very good overclocker, in most tests with current drivers beating or being a close tie to 9700 pro performance, except in a few cases of AA/AF turned all way up.
Look, if you ant price and LESS quality, go 5900. If you like PERFORMANCE, QUALITY, AND EYE CANDY, go ATI.
I told you, I have BOTH... d0y. The 9800 is the BEST performer and shows the BEST eye candy.
If you like jagged edges, go 5900...
OK HOMER BOY! Biased? I have BOTH cards... So how is THAT biased?What a completely biased and BS post.
lol.. talk about asinine statements from a fanboy.
i have the 5900nu and the 9700pro; overclocking both, the oc'd 5900 spanks the 9700 pro in almost all areas.
graphics quality? the 9700 imo has a sublte advantange in aa (cat 3.10 vs forceware 53.03), and the 5900 has slightly better texture filtering (while i don't see it when gaming, most reviews state ati's text filtering performs a bit better). overall 3d quality? comparing both running the same time next to each other, you really couldn't tell which pc was running which card.
2d quality? most reviewers give the ati a slight nod in this area, tho they all pretty much say both are excellent. honestly, i would have to scrutinize to tell the difference; they're that comparable.
price? 5900 wins hands down. this is a card for $170 that is running at 5950u/9800xt speeds, for almost $300 less - and it comes with vivo, 24/7 toll free support and a lifetime warranty (and, if you're lucky, a free copy of CoD). now tell me, how is THAT a bad thing?
they're both great cards, and while the ati might have a bit of a performance advantage in ps2 benchies, there is no better value in the $150-170 price range right now. in all honesty, with next-gen cards upcoming in the next few months, spending $450 on a 9800xt/5950u right now is not a very smart way to spend your money - especially when a card for $300 less has 90% of the performance...
edit: btw, the "lifetime" warranty is not like PNY, where once the card is no longer "mainstream", it no longer has a "Life". under bfg's warranty, they will replace it with the next closet "next" gen card, all warranties should be that good.
Sorry, I am not that familiar with this "lifetime" warranty of BFG, could u please explain to me? You mean anytime the card stop working, BFG will give me a new "next generation" card without any cost? Thanks
Originally posted by: M0NEYSH0T
2d quality? most reviewers give the ati a slight nod in this area, tho they all pretty much say both are excellent. honestly, i would have to scrutinize to tell the difference; they're that comparable.
Keep telling yourself that... Maybe the video card gods will make it come true.
Look, if you're a hardcore gamer, then you want ATI.
w00t vzz14
That's very interesting, and nice that BB would do that. Im curious on 2 things - 1) did you get to keep the old 4600? and 2) what was the price difference? When I bought my Ti4600, it was ~$360, and a 9800pro should retail less than that, of course you did say 14months past 11/02, making it almost a year ago. (Ive never owned an ATI based chipset, dont follow those prices too much).Originally posted by: M0NEYSH0T
A little on the PNY warranty...
In 11/2002 I bought a TI4600 from Best Buy. 14 months later, the card starting going bad, so I called PNY after I noticed the "Lifetime Warranty" on the side of the box. The promptly told me to take if back to where I bought it. So I dug up my Best Buy receipt, and called, because I didn't think they (Best Buy) would honor it, and they DID! At this time, they no longer had TI4600, so they let me upgrade to an ATI 9800 PRO. I just had to pay the difference. Just thought I would share.
Originally posted by: Razorguts
That's very interesting, and nice that BB would do that. Im curious on 2 things - 1) did you get to keep the old 4600? and 2) what was the price difference? When I bought my Ti4600, it was ~$360, and a 9800pro should retail less than that, of course you did say 14months past 11/02, making it almost a year ago. (Ive never owned an ATI based chipset, dont follow those prices too much).Originally posted by: M0NEYSH0T
A little on the PNY warranty...
In 11/2002 I bought a TI4600 from Best Buy. 14 months later, the card starting going bad, so I called PNY after I noticed the "Lifetime Warranty" on the side of the box. The promptly told me to take if back to where I bought it. So I dug up my Best Buy receipt, and called, because I didn't think they (Best Buy) would honor it, and they DID! At this time, they no longer had TI4600, so they let me upgrade to an ATI 9800 PRO. I just had to pay the difference. Just thought I would share.
Ive still got my PNY Ti4600, I wonder if I can do an upgrade...
Razorguts
Herff College of Engineering
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Originally posted by: M0NEYSH0T
A little on the PNY warranty...
In 11/2002 I bought a TI4600 from Best Buy. 14 months later, the card starting going bad, so I called PNY after I noticed the "Lifetime Warranty" on the side of the box. The promptly told me to take if back to where I bought it. So I dug up my Best Buy receipt, and called, because I didn't think they (Best Buy) would honor it, and they DID! At this time, they no longer had TI4600, so they let me upgrade to an ATI 9800 PRO. I just had to pay the difference. Just thought I would share.
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That's very interesting, and nice that BB would do that. Im curious on 2 things - 1) did you get to keep the old 4600? and 2) what was the price difference? When I bought my Ti4600, it was ~$360, and a 9800pro should retail less than that, of course you did say 14months past 11/02, making it almost a year ago. (Ive never owned an ATI based chipset, dont follow those prices too much).
Ive still got my PNY Ti4600, I wonder if I can do an upgrade...
Razorguts
Herff College of Engineering
At most Best Buy stores this would be nearly impossible. Maybe they will take pity on you and take your card back for exchange, but only if the item is "devo" which means the item is returnable to the manufacturer. At my local store they would say, you bought it when??? Our return/exchange policy is..... and you will have to contact the manufacturer.
Originally posted by: metechjunkie
did anyone in CA order from enpc? if so, how long did it take for the delivery?
i bought this card from fry's for $215 after tax (CoD was included - last one they had at Campbell Fry's), but i'm thinking of returning it and ordering from enpc instead. i would save $43 since no shipping and sales tax.
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: metechjunkie
did anyone in CA order from enpc? if so, how long did it take for the delivery?
i bought this card from fry's for $215 after tax (CoD was included - last one they had at Campbell Fry's), but i'm thinking of returning it and ordering from enpc instead. i would save $43 since no shipping and sales tax.
it took like 3 or 4 days
I think it's you. WTF kind of post is this, epecially for a first time poster? Go take your lovely beotch and find a job. w00t.Originally posted by: IYodelInTheValley
Sheet dogs -
I have a TI4600 and the sheet works fine bought it online for like 130 - I dont play no freaking star wars games and do fine on my mofockin aao and sheet - in fact I was banging this beotch the other night and her moon boots got a little too close to my rig and the sheet was gonna over heat with all the love in the room so i flipped on m y extra fan and blam got my nut and the rig rolled back down to like 69 degrees..w00t
now is it me or is it my video card or just the love in the air in my gaming room??
did anyone in CA order from enpc? if so, how long did it take for the delivery?
Originally posted by: isayx3
did anyone in CA order from enpc? if so, how long did it take for the delivery?
I ordered mine wednesday from ENPC $179 shipped, Got it on monday.
No COD.
That's sounds like a very exciting night. Do you have any more breath taking stories?Originally posted by: IYodelInTheValley
Sheet dogs -
I have a TI4600 and the sheet works fine bought it online for like 130 - I dont play no freaking star wars games and do fine on my mofockin aao and sheet - in fact I was banging this beotch the other night and her moon boots got a little too close to my rig and the sheet was gonna over heat with all the love in the room so i flipped on m y extra fan and blam got my nut and the rig rolled back down to like 69 degrees..w00t
now is it me or is it my video card or just the love in the air in my gaming room??
where are you located? i think enpc is located in NY??? maybe i'll place my order today
Originally posted by: CyberZenn
Got mine from newegg today and, other than my free shirt looking like someone rubbed their poop covered hands on it, everything looks good. Anyone know how to go about capturing video off of the video input? Most other vivo cards I have bought included software, but this BFG appears to only have video studio 7.....
Originally posted by: isayx3
where are you located? i think enpc is located in NY??? maybe i'll place my order today
Southern CA (corona to be exact)
It was the retail box. Not sure one the memory speed. I'll check when i get home.
Originally posted by: modedepe
Originally posted by: shady06
Originally posted by: metechjunkie
did anyone in CA order from enpc? if so, how long did it take for the delivery?
i bought this card from fry's for $215 after tax (CoD was included - last one they had at Campbell Fry's), but i'm thinking of returning it and ordering from enpc instead. i would save $43 since no shipping and sales tax.
it took like 3 or 4 days
Did you get CoD with yours?
Originally posted by: pxc
Originally posted by: isayx3
where are you located? i think enpc is located in NY??? maybe i'll place my order today
Southern CA (corona to be exact)
It was the retail box. Not sure one the memory speed. I'll check when i get home.
I got mine from enpc 2 days ago (also SoCal) and I checked the memory. It's Hyundai 2.2ns. There's very thin sticky tape between the heatink and the chips, so be careful when you're removing it. Actually, I don't recommend even doing that.