I do try, but then I have Democrats saying, oh they are fine, they act civil on the internet so it doesn't matter what misinformation they continue to spread, what kind of realities they continue to deny, and who they continue to vote for.
Couldn’t you just warn your people by warning them?
All the old people are watching Fox and local news, how exactly are Dems supposed to get a message to them?
That doesn't matter, I'm not making comparisons between countries. That has no meaning. I'm looking at the insane spending driving inflation up in THIS Country.
Wow!
I guy in 2010 (12 years ago) is now what makes up a Republican Movement to get rid of SS and Medicare.
I'm impressed.
The problems started with Rush and Murdoch. And then Facebook, et. al. went and weaponized and profited off manufacturing outrage between friends.The biggest success-story for "Russian interference" in America (so far) has been the wedge they've successfully driven deeper into our society.
I miss the days when we could disagree on major issues BUT still have a beer and cheer for a football game together just because we were Americans. (and despite all the "bad", those days DID exist)
If that makes me "old and in the way/set in my ways" then so be it.
I still have friends on both sides of "the aisle" and it's a damn shame we've come to this retarded artificial "impasse" politically that almost certainly will end in some kind of violence now.
That isn't true a lot of people on here have changed their views over the years, it just tends to happen slowly. IIRC, PCGeek used to be the type that would never criticize a Republican. He's still a Republican but much easier to talk to now. @Jaskalas also used to be a righty and isn't anymore.I mean yes let's be nice to mid-stage Nazis.
The only time I've ever seen one of these conservatives make any kind of substantial change of heart is blackangst refusing to vote for election deniers.
So all these years of your politeness and that's it.
At some point you have to warn your people how fucked up these people are. And you're not going to do it by saying, hey thanks for being nice while you deny the Republicans are authoritarian and fomenting violence or about their plans to dismantle key programs like social security and Medicare and education, and keep voting for them.
Yet, the AARP membership will over whelmingly vote for them because of "crime" and the terrible economy where anyone with a pulse can get a job.
That's great, but your experience doesn't align with national statistics.I'm an AARP member and outside of a few relatives (by marriage) I don't know a single person of my generation that votes GOP. Most Trumpers I know are bitter middle age fools who blame the problems in their life upon "the elites."
It does matter because in order for your premise to be true US inflation would be higher then most of the developed world because we live in a global economy.That doesn't matter, I'm not making comparisons between countries. That has no meaning. I'm looking at the insane spending driving inflation up in THIS Country.
Its a global conspiracy against conservatives!!!It does matter because in order for your premise to be true US inflation would be higher then most of the developed world because we live in a global economy.
That isn't true a lot of people on here have changed their views over the years, it just tends to happen slowly. IIRC, PCGeek used to be the type that would never criticize a Republican. He's still a Republican but much easier to talk to now. @Jaskalas also used to be a righty and isn't anymore.
I used to be much more on the right side of moderate on many issues, I've progressed in large part from debating with people here. The people that just called me names when they disagreed with me never once affected my views.
I'm an AARP member and outside of a few relatives (by marriage) I don't know a single person of my generation that votes GOP. Most Trumpers I know are bitter middle age fools who blame the problems in their life upon "the elites."
Not sure I get what you mean?I would also add that the people who discussed things with you calmly also did not effect your views.
Not sure I get what you mean?
I disagree. Generally the people that are just being assholes add nothing of value and even if they do, a lot of people have skipped the rest of their post after the first paragraph of spite.What I am saying, is that how you talk to people, when it comes to anonymous online discussions, rarely changes people’s mind. If you are open minded and seeking the truth, you will accept facts (or verify them) no matter whose mouth it’s coming out of or how harsh it is.
It’s why I don’t put people on ignore, even an ass hat can make a valid point every once in a while.
I disagree. Generally the people that are just being assholes add nothing of value and even if they do, a lot of people have skipped the rest of their post after the first paragraph of spite.
People can disagree, strongly, and not be rude. Rudeness just makes people build walls and wastes attention span on that instead of facts.
That's great, but your experience doesn't align with national statistics.
My mom has gotten more liberal with age, but most people go the opposite way.
What I am saying, is that how you talk to people, when it comes to anonymous online discussions, rarely changes people’s mind. If you are open minded and seeking the truth, you will accept facts (or verify them) no matter whose mouth it’s coming out of or how harsh it is.
It’s why I don’t put people on ignore, even an ass hat can make a valid point every once in a while.
I won't defend being a rude asshole, but tell me honestly: how many people here are assholes to others over simple policy disagreements?I disagree. Generally the people that are just being assholes add nothing of value and even if they do, a lot of people have skipped the rest of their post after the first paragraph of spite.
People can disagree, strongly, and not be rude. Rudeness just makes people build walls and wastes attention span on that instead of facts.
I didn't say that Joe Biden has caused a global inflation crisis. He did however with his massive spending drive the inflation up in a huge way in the US.
What you're trying to convince everyone is that massive spending doesn't contribute to inflation? There a quite a few economist that will disagree with you.
You can keep you worthless insults they have no effect on me. It only defines your own character.
How do you feel about his admin lying about the source of the SS pay raise?
Joe probably thinks he wrote a personal check.
Old folks often have scrambled memory's and say silly things, I just nod and smile, then offer them some ice cream.
Memory going in your old ages?
Trump lit money on fire even before COVID.
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The only issue I see here is that you're responding to a point I never made.Sounds like @Greenman needs some ice cream
The only issue I see here is that you're responding to a point I never made.
Sugar or waffle cone?