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Vic

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Vic

Are you talking about how McCain and Romney did nothing but spout the usual small govt rhetoric on stage at the RNC, and then not 2 days later backed Bush's nationalization of Fannie and Freddie?

Hillary is not going to be VP. She's not in the running, she doesn't want the job, and the D's are not desperate just because McCain got a short-lived convention bounce.

And in the meantime, the Pubs are the Bush Administration. You'd have to be several beers short of a six-pack to forget that.

Thats almost impossible to answer because we dont realyl know what would happen if F&F were left to sink. I can tell you it would be a catastrophe to the world financial markets. Believe it or not sometimes you have to think outside your party lines. Having said that, I certainly am NOT amused by the rich socialism. I have to deal with enough socialist bullshit from the liberals and the poor, I certainly dont like it when it comes from the rich and the right.

F&F is a unique state so really trying to blame that on any political party is, quite simply, asinine political pandering. You go boy as they say.

I actually agree though. I dont see HRC taking it. Theres too little to gain and too much to lose. Then again, Veep trumps Senator so maybe she would.....

Anyways I checked. McCain isnt related to the Bush family. Sorry, more asinine political pandering and slandering from the ewe. Expected.

Before you continue, please be aware that I've been a licensed mortgage broker for 15 years, and (until this year) was a registered libertarian even longer. So anytime you want to STFU about "think outside your party lines" when we all know that's just code words for doublethinking defense of your party even when it lies to you outright...
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Vic
What "liberal media" are you referring to, Specop? Fox News?

Or the TV stations that Palin used to work for?

Ewe no quite well Vic. Silly satire is not needed.
 

senseamp

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Desperate times call for desperate measures. The emptiness of the Obamessiah is being revealed and the power of McCains pick is shining through. Everywhere the Democrats are downright frightened. They are doing everything to discredit Palin, to little effect. Next move?
Swap the Veep. Its seems the D's are only interested in running a popularity contest. Actual content be damned. Of course the current course of "But I'm not Bush!" is proof enough of that.

The Democrats are empty and devoid. ALL they have is "We arent the Bush Administration!". Thats IT. No plans, no clues, no ideas. Just "Not Bush".

Its hilarity on the big stage. Maple syrup anyone?

It is pretty hard to discredit someone who has zero credibility to begin with. Fortunately for her, her fans don't care that she blatantly lies about things like the Bridge to Nowhere.

Like I said, the best the combined might of the Liberal Machine can come up with is.....wait for it.....A bridge!!

A BRIDGE!!!

Maybe she has a bridge to sell you.....

Nice to see this sort of relaxed attitude to waste of taxpayer money from the right.
This is what got Republicans in trouble, they got corrupted, and apparently still are.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Vic
What "liberal media" are you referring to, Specop? Fox News?

Or the TV stations that Palin used to work for?

Ewe no quite well Vic. Silly satire is not needed.

Perhaps you'd like to present evidence of the existence of this 'liberal media' outside of Rush Limbaugh's and St. Sarah's say-so?

The media is not liberal. It's centrist and corporatist and fully free market. All it cares about is selling copy. Period. If selling copy means that it doesn't always hold devoutly to your particular political religion, that does not make it liberal.

It is an irony not lost on me that people's views of the media hinge entirely on their own political viewpoint. Conservatives call it liberal. Liberals think it corporatist. And as a libertarian, I usually think of it as authoritarian. So the next time you want to be cewet, you might want to consider what a dumbass you look like for spouting party line rhetoric.
 
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The problem with picking Hillary is that would energize all of the anti-Hillary people and perhaps send them over to McCain more than it would bring over Hillary lovers who for some ridiculous reason either support McCain or just dislike Obama.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: senseamp

YAWN...
What exactly is the content of McCain's campaign? Seems like he wants to retry all the policies that failed time and time again, plus he's engaging in completely unethical twisting of the truth, which is indicative of how he will govern. It seems like change is a good thing given the last 8 years, and it isn't going to come from McCain.

It seems exhaustion has clouded your thoughts. Although from what I've seen your exhaustion has ran the span of years....

Failed? How? Who? Proof? Links? Define failed? Oh...wait...You mean you think its a failure therefore we can project your assessment and apply that as the feelings of the nation.

Ahhh. Of course. Well I dont want to get the Palinated Liberals anymore panicked so I shall agree and smile.

Yes, a failure. I agree.
 

Balt

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Desperate times call for desperate measures. The emptiness of the Obamessiah is being revealed and the power of McCains pick is shining through. Everywhere the Democrats are downright frightened. They are doing everything to discredit Palin, to little effect. Next move?
Swap the Veep. Its seems the D's are only interested in running a popularity contest. Actual content be damned. Of course the current course of "But I'm not Bush!" is proof enough of that.

The Democrats are empty and devoid. ALL they have is "We arent the Bush Administration!". Thats IT. No plans, no clues, no ideas. Just "Not Bush".

Its hilarity on the big stage. Maple syrup anyone?

It is pretty hard to discredit someone who has zero credibility to begin with. Fortunately for her, her fans don't care that she blatantly lies about things like the Bridge to Nowhere.

Like I said, the best the combined might of the Liberal Machine can come up with is.....wait for it.....A bridge!!

A BRIDGE!!!

Maybe she has a bridge to sell you.....

Maybe once she stops lying about it in every speech she gives people will move on? It's funny how people like you aren't even bothered by her complete lack of honesty, though.
 

gar3555

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Originally posted by: Capt Caveman
Originally posted by: Hecubus2000
Anyone else feel this will happen soon. If it does, what will it say about Obama's decision making skills?

Will not happen. /thread

well...whether it happens or not, Biden himself stated that Hilary would have been a better VP than himself...makes you wonder.
 

senseamp

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: senseamp

YAWN...
What exactly is the content of McCain's campaign? Seems like he wants to retry all the policies that failed time and time again, plus he's engaging in completely unethical twisting of the truth, which is indicative of how he will govern. It seems like change is a good thing given the last 8 years, and it isn't going to come from McCain.

It seems exhaustion has clouded your thoughts. Although from what I've seen your exhaustion has ran the span of years....

Failed? How? Who? Proof? Links? Define failed? Oh...wait...You mean you think its a failure therefore we can project your assessment and apply that as the feelings of the nation.

Ahhh. Of course. Well I dont want to get the Palinated Liberals anymore panicked so I shall agree and smile.

Yes, a failure. I agree.

I am not sure what you are rambling about. You are entitled to your opinion, as am I. Obviously if someone thinks that the policies of the last 8 years were a success, McCain is their guy.
 

fleshconsumed

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Desperate times call for desperate measures. The emptiness of the Obamessiah is being revealed and the power of McCains pick is shining through. Everywhere the Democrats are downright frightened. They are doing everything to discredit Palin, to little effect. Next move?
Swap the Veep. Its seems the D's are only interested in running a popularity contest. Actual content be damned. Of course the current course of "But I'm not Bush!" is proof enough of that.

The Democrats are empty and devoid. ALL they have is "We arent the Bush Administration!". Thats IT. No plans, no clues, no ideas. Just "Not Bush".

Its hilarity on the big stage. Maple syrup anyone?

My sarcasm meter is tingling because that's one of the most accurate descriptions of Republicans if I ever saw one.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Vic

Before you continue, please be aware that I've been a licensed mortgage broker for 15 years, and (until this year) was a registered libertarian even longer. So anytime you want to STFU about "think outside your party lines" when we all know that's just code words for doublethinking defense of your party even when it lies to you outright...

Ahh, blind arrogance with a dash of ignorance from the Ewe. So often seen.

Well then Vickser, gaze in that crystal ball of yours and tell us what would have happened if F&F had been left to sink. Silly of me to think the entire groups and organizations tasked with handling this would have less information and knowledge then you!

Oh wait....They didnt contact you for advice? That seems like borderline criminal oversight to not contact The Vickster for advice!!

Unless you would revise your statement and shelve your arrogance.......
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Desperate times call for desperate measures. The emptiness of the Obamessiah is being revealed and the power of McCains pick is shining through. Everywhere the Democrats are downright frightened. They are doing everything to discredit Palin, to little effect. Next move?
Swap the Veep. Its seems the D's are only interested in running a popularity contest. Actual content be damned. Of course the current course of "But I'm not Bush!" is proof enough of that.

The Democrats are empty and devoid. ALL they have is "We arent the Bush Administration!". Thats IT. No plans, no clues, no ideas. Just "Not Bush".

Its hilarity on the big stage. Maple syrup anyone?

It is pretty hard to discredit someone who has zero credibility to begin with. Fortunately for her, her fans don't care that she blatantly lies about things like the Bridge to Nowhere.

Like I said, the best the combined might of the Liberal Machine can come up with is.....wait for it.....A bridge!!

A BRIDGE!!!

Maybe she has a bridge to sell you.....

Nice to see this sort of relaxed attitude to waste of taxpayer money from the right.
This is what got Republicans in trouble, they got corrupted, and apparently still are.

Waste? I consider the half a trillion in social programs EVERY YEAR to be a waste.....

But of course, stealing my money for bums and bozo's is ok isnt it?
 

senseamp

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Balt
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Desperate times call for desperate measures. The emptiness of the Obamessiah is being revealed and the power of McCains pick is shining through. Everywhere the Democrats are downright frightened. They are doing everything to discredit Palin, to little effect. Next move?
Swap the Veep. Its seems the D's are only interested in running a popularity contest. Actual content be damned. Of course the current course of "But I'm not Bush!" is proof enough of that.

The Democrats are empty and devoid. ALL they have is "We arent the Bush Administration!". Thats IT. No plans, no clues, no ideas. Just "Not Bush".

Its hilarity on the big stage. Maple syrup anyone?

It is pretty hard to discredit someone who has zero credibility to begin with. Fortunately for her, her fans don't care that she blatantly lies about things like the Bridge to Nowhere.

Like I said, the best the combined might of the Liberal Machine can come up with is.....wait for it.....A bridge!!

A BRIDGE!!!

Maybe she has a bridge to sell you.....

Nice to see this sort of relaxed attitude to waste of taxpayer money from the right.
This is what got Republicans in trouble, they got corrupted, and apparently still are.

Waste? I consider the half a trillion in social programs EVERY YEAR to be a waste.....

But of course, stealing my money for bums and bozo's is ok isnt it?

How does that make the bridge not a waste again?
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: Vic

Perhaps you'd like to present evidence of the existence of this 'liberal media' outside of Rush Limbaugh's and St. Sarah's say-so?

The media is not liberal. It's centrist and corporatist and fully free market. All it cares about is selling copy. Period. If selling copy means that it doesn't always hold devoutly to your particular political religion, that does not make it liberal.

It is an irony not lost on me that people's views of the media hinge entirely on their own political viewpoint. Conservatives call it liberal. Liberals think it corporatist. And as a libertarian, I usually think of it as authoritarian. So the next time you want to be cewet, you might want to consider what a dumbass you look like for spouting party line rhetoric.

I'm sorry ewe are blinded by the noise of "GODDAMN AMERICA" and cant see the truth of it.

How about, as one very recent example, US Weekly's smear of Palin and praise of Obamessiah? That hardly strikes me as fair and balanced. Its also what is seen on many news outlets. Denying it only shows you secret allegiance to the Rabid Left.
 

senseamp

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Vic

Perhaps you'd like to present evidence of the existence of this 'liberal media' outside of Rush Limbaugh's and St. Sarah's say-so?

The media is not liberal. It's centrist and corporatist and fully free market. All it cares about is selling copy. Period. If selling copy means that it doesn't always hold devoutly to your particular political religion, that does not make it liberal.

It is an irony not lost on me that people's views of the media hinge entirely on their own political viewpoint. Conservatives call it liberal. Liberals think it corporatist. And as a libertarian, I usually think of it as authoritarian. So the next time you want to be cewet, you might want to consider what a dumbass you look like for spouting party line rhetoric.

I'm sorry ewe are blinded by the noise of "GODDAMN AMERICA" and cant see the truth of it.

How about, as one very recent example, US Weekly's smear of Palin and praise of Obamessiah? That hardly strikes me as fair and balanced. Its also what is seen on many news outlets. Denying it only shows you secret allegiance to the Rabid Left.

Do you talk exclusively in right wing cliches?
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Good to see Republicans finally embrace Socialism.

Who embraced it? I clearly said I didnt like it. Then again, since when do facts matter to liberals?
 

fskimospy

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Vic

Perhaps you'd like to present evidence of the existence of this 'liberal media' outside of Rush Limbaugh's and St. Sarah's say-so?

The media is not liberal. It's centrist and corporatist and fully free market. All it cares about is selling copy. Period. If selling copy means that it doesn't always hold devoutly to your particular political religion, that does not make it liberal.

It is an irony not lost on me that people's views of the media hinge entirely on their own political viewpoint. Conservatives call it liberal. Liberals think it corporatist. And as a libertarian, I usually think of it as authoritarian. So the next time you want to be cewet, you might want to consider what a dumbass you look like for spouting party line rhetoric.

I'm sorry ewe are blinded by the noise of "GODDAMN AMERICA" and cant see the truth of it.

How about, as one very recent example, US Weekly's smear of Palin and praise of Obamessiah? That hardly strikes me as fair and balanced. Its also what is seen on many news outlets. Denying it only shows you secret allegiance to the Rabid Left.

So your evidence of the 'librul media' is a gossip magazine? Completely aside from the fact that anecdotal evidence from a single source is a hilariously stupid way to try and prove media bias, it's a fucking supermarket gossip magazine.

This is pathetic, even for you Specop. I hope you realize how large an insult that is.
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: senseamp

How does that make the bridge not a waste again?

I didnt say it wasnt a waste. I simply said the best you have is one bridge. Its highly comical to watch the biggest spenders the country has ever had in power complain about a small expenditure......
 

Specop 007

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Originally posted by: senseamp
Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: Vic

Perhaps you'd like to present evidence of the existence of this 'liberal media' outside of Rush Limbaugh's and St. Sarah's say-so?

The media is not liberal. It's centrist and corporatist and fully free market. All it cares about is selling copy. Period. If selling copy means that it doesn't always hold devoutly to your particular political religion, that does not make it liberal.

It is an irony not lost on me that people's views of the media hinge entirely on their own political viewpoint. Conservatives call it liberal. Liberals think it corporatist. And as a libertarian, I usually think of it as authoritarian. So the next time you want to be cewet, you might want to consider what a dumbass you look like for spouting party line rhetoric.

I'm sorry ewe are blinded by the noise of "GODDAMN AMERICA" and cant see the truth of it.

How about, as one very recent example, US Weekly's smear of Palin and praise of Obamessiah? That hardly strikes me as fair and balanced. Its also what is seen on many news outlets. Denying it only shows you secret allegiance to the Rabid Left.

Do you talk exclusively in right wing cliches?

Preferably cliques but the keys click on a different clique tonight. My keys will always unlock more truths then yours though. You should drop the skeleton keys and find something with some substance.
 

bdude

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Can I play? I want to spout right wing talking points...but I didn't get the memo
 

feralkid

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Originally posted by: bdude
Can I play? I want to spout right wing talking points...but I didn't get the memo




No kidding, who slipped the caffeine pills into Specop's ovaltine?
 

Farang

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Obama made a solid choice in Biden. Palin's advantage was the shock factor and the hope for women votes (both of which it seems to have achieved somewhat). The problem is he is only marginally up in polls and still trailing in the electoral college, there is really nowhere to go but down from here. He and Biden both have advantages in the debates, which is when the election is really decided.
 

Balt

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Originally posted by: Specop 007
Originally posted by: senseamp

How does that make the bridge not a waste again?

I didnt say it wasnt a waste. I simply said the best you have is one bridge. Its highly comical to watch the biggest spenders the country has ever had in power complain about a small expenditure......

George W. Bush?

By the way, the point is not just that she supported the bridge but also that she now claims she was against it in every one of her speeches. Geniuses like yourself just eat it up, too.
 
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