Once again adding to the debate. Great job. Have any other selective quotes you'd like to make yourself look like an idiot over?
haha, it's about time this thread get some penis humor. Everything else is about just as retarded.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJc1D33lFs4&feature=player_embedded
This interview just posted says it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJc1D33lFs4&feature=player_embedded
This interview just posted says it all.
Actually it doesn't say much.
"Hi, I'm the President, and there are things, vague, nebulous things, that we can and will do through executive order."
That's all we know. I think it's been pretty well established that something like an AWB or magazine ban would require legislation.
Actually it doesn't say much.
"Hi, I'm the President, and there are things, vague, nebulous things, that we can and will do through executive order."
That's all we know. I think it's been pretty well established that something like an AWB or magazine ban would require legislation.
You can ban all the guns you want but the people will still be violent. Our society is based upon personal ambition and greed. If the people are still just as violent inside, gun or no gun, it will make no difference. But I guess the politicians need to score some points by passing more laws.
Humans have always been violent and always will be. That's the nature of our evolution. Survival of the fittest and can be seen in every living organism on this planet.
That being said, taking away all guns will not stop people from being violent, but that is not the point to this kind of legislation or EO decision. It never has been.
So all humans are violent because of their survival of the fittest mentality? I thought we had higher intelligence and capacity. I thought science cured all our problems dealing with survival. We supposedly have abundant food now, so what is creating more problems?
So you are saying that humans are violent (and supposedly always will be). Therefore, removing guns doesn't really solve any problem, whatsoever. It is like stopping a major leak with a gum. More gun laws will create more government bureaucracy without doing anything. The larger problem remains and that will never be talked about by politicians or the vast majority of people.
The frustrating thing about all this is that the controls being discussed will do NOTHINGZ. An "assault weapon" means nothing. Semi auto rifles exist outside of this meaningless concept and shrinking clip size is fucking brain dead.
Why isn't the government addressing things that might actually help? This is just knee jerk nonsense and is not evidence based. Moreover it doesn't even make sense on an intuitive level.
I'd be up for the first two, but the third is merely insane. Not only does it criminalize many existing magazines (at least, to have any effect) but its supposed utility is allowing more breaks so that unarmed people have more of a "chance" to charge the shooter during magazine changes.Apparently you would like to punish the 99.99% of law abiding gun owners to make yourself feel better. Have you seen the statistics of gun owners who prevent crime? It is a lot higher than the mass murder figures, and I do not believe any NRA member has been found guilty of a horrible crime like in Sandy Hook.
But on topic, I think this thread is absolutely ridiculous and misleading. I am a conservative (libertarian) but holy christ you people need to go. The most that will come of this is;
- More indepth background checks
- Mental health legislation
- Possible ban on magazine sizes
So all humans are violent because of their survival of the fittest mentality? I thought we had higher intelligence and capacity. I thought science cured all our problems dealing with survival. We supposedly have abundant food now, so what is creating more problems?
So you are saying that humans are violent (and supposedly always will be). Therefore, removing guns doesn't really solve any problem, whatsoever. It is like stopping a major leak with a gum. More gun laws will create more government bureaucracy without doing anything. The larger problem remains and that will never be talked about by politicians or the vast majority of people.
The frustrating thing about all this is that the controls being discussed will do NOTHINGZ. An "assault weapon" means nothing. Semi auto rifles exist outside of this meaningless concept and shrinking clip size is fucking brain dead.
Why isn't the government addressing things that might actually help? This is just knee jerk nonsense and is not evidence based. Moreover it doesn't even make sense on an intuitive level.
Do you ever spend time in introspection on why your over-the-top claims are consistently wrong? Obama has announced his executive orders. His "stroke of a pen" includes things like more actively enforcing current background check laws, making it easier for schools to hire safety resources and prepare emergency plans, helping mental health professionals better understand their options for dealing with potentially violent people, and doing more research on preventing violence. Yet for all the hysterical cries in this thread, there is nothing about banning weapons, or even magazines, by executive order. Nothing.There's plenty. Obama wants an AWB. That means any magazine or weapon capable of firing more than 10 rounds could be made an NFA item. Possession of NFA item without appropriate tax stamp is a felony. This thread shows this administration is willing to do anything including EO to achieve that goal.
Most all weapons people own would be considered an assault weapon because they hold more than 10 rounds = most gun owners would become felons with the stroke of a pen.
Not paying attention, are you?
He would if he could, have you not listened to him? Listened to "he demands a stop to any magazine over 10 rounds", "I demand congress pass AWB"
That is a fucking dictator. Thankfully the constitution can stop him. And thank GOD for republicans in the house otherwise his dictatorial demands would be lapped up and passed by the legislative branch.
qftDo you ever spend time in introspection on why your over-the-top claims are consistently wrong? Obama has announced his executive orders. His "stroke of a pen" includes things like more actively enforcing current background check laws, making it easier for schools to hire safety resources and prepare emergency plans, helping mental health professionals better understand their options for dealing with potentially violent people, and doing more research on preventing violence. Yet for all the hysterical cries in this thread, there is nothing about banning weapons, or even magazines, by executive order. Nothing.
Instead, for such legislative changes Obama's making proposals to Congress for potential legislative action ... just as the Constitution requires. All the attacks insisting he was too stupid or corrupt to understand the Constitution, that they could read Biden's mind and know that what he said wasn't really what he meant, that Obama was certain to use executive orders to violate the 2nd Amendment, all that crazy noise and outrage ... wrong. Again. Which is exactly what the rational people in this thread tried to point out all along. This whole thread, that Obama was going to repeal he 2nd Amendment via executive order, was baseless paranoia by the same gullible puppets who become outraged on demand, over and over and over again.
Pavlov's Clowns, yelping right on cue, just as they've been programmed to do.
He would if he could, have you not listened to him? Listened to "he demands a stop to any magazine over 10 rounds", "I demand congress pass AWB"
That is a fucking dictator. Thankfully the constitution can stop him. And thank GOD for republicans in the house otherwise his dictatorial demands would be lapped up and passed by the legislative branch. All you need to do is look at NY state for what obama and liberals want.
Lulz! Further evidence Spidey is incapable of accepting reality. Deep in his bunker of denial, he sees only the 3% of the world that matches his fringe beliefs, not the 97% that contradicts them. The simple FACT of the matter is no matter what Obama may personally what, he did not DO what you loudly and repeatedly insisted he would DO. You were wrong. Again.
I have been saying this all along, This POS has violated the Constitution and his lapdogs still defend him. The leftists kept attacking Conservatives over being so scared but now look at what obama is doing and we were right
Do you ever spend time in introspection on why your over-the-top claims are consistently wrong? Obama has announced his executive orders. His "stroke of a pen" includes things like more actively enforcing current background check laws, making it easier for schools to hire safety resources and prepare emergency plans, helping mental health professionals better understand their options for dealing with potentially violent people, and doing more research on preventing violence. Yet for all the hysterical cries in this thread, there is nothing about banning weapons, or even magazines, by executive order. Nothing.
Instead, for such legislative changes Obama's making proposals to Congress for potential legislative action ... just as the Constitution requires. All the attacks insisting he was too stupid or corrupt to understand the Constitution, that they could read Biden's mind and know that what he said wasn't really what he meant, that Obama was certain to use executive orders to violate the 2nd Amendment, all that crazy noise and outrage ... wrong. Again. Which is exactly what the rational people in this thread tried to point out all along. This whole thread, that Obama was going to repeal he 2nd Amendment via executive order, was baseless paranoia by the same gullible puppets who become outraged on demand, over and over and over again.
Pavlov's Clowns, yelping right on cue, just as they've been programmed to do.