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GoodRevrnd

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A battle for the soul (a made up concept, btw)... that's something Democrats do a lot. Nothing can be a discussion about how there are different viewpoints, instead everything is good vs. evil, the morally superior vs. the morally inferior, the fight of the righteous and virtuous (signaling) against the deplorables..
*cough*moral majority*cough*
 
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woolfe9998

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WTF are you talking about with the "identity politics" routine? Biden is telling us that we, America, have to stand up to bigotry of all sorts. He tells us that the events in Charlottesville weren't perpetrated by very fine people at all & that our President characterizing them as such is complicity.

I agree with the message 100%. That is not the issue. But if Biden is going to be spending half his time talking about racism in the campaign, I don't think it's his best political strategy, not in the general election anyway.

2020 for me is not about how I feel about things. It's 100% about ousting Trump. It's literally the only thing that matters.
 

JEDIYoda

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I agree with the message 100%. That is not the issue. But if Biden is going to be spending half his time talking about racism in the campaign, I don't think it's his best political strategy, not in the general election anyway.

2020 for me is not about how I feel about things. It's 100% about ousting Trump. It's literally the only thing that matters.
The force is strong in this one!!!
 

sportage

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I PREDICT.......
(Queue the spooky lights and thunder)
I predict that THIS will be the most unimaginable election in not only American history but in world history.
2020.
I predict this election will become so nasty, so vicious, so so so absolutely implausible that even the strongest of men (and women) will fall faint of heart.
And parents, if we cherish our children we have but only two choices. Either burn all of your electronic gadgets capable of displaying media of any kind, or send the kids off to some child friendly isolated containment camp located in Canada.
Or over to Europe.
Or send them off to anywhere, anywhere but here because this election will become very bad, very bad indeed.
One can not imagine the horrors to come.

This election of 2020 will involve nudity, obscenity, rape, murder, mysterious disappearances, name calling, pie tossing, poop tossing, urination, boobs, penises, Nazi swastika, hot pokers, bamboo under the fingernails, DEATH, and destruction of biblical proportion.
And forget turning to god for help. God will be with the children, up in Canada.
God will have nothing to do with this shit that is about to take place.

Then, at the end of this election, humanity will consists of only maniacs and the insane.
We will no longer approach one another to shake hands, we will go right for the throat.
There will be no survivors.
Well only one... Donald Trump and his second term.
 
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ondma

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A battle for the soul (a made up concept, btw)... that's something Democrats do a lot. Nothing can be a discussion about how there are different viewpoints, instead everything is good vs. evil, the morally superior vs. the morally inferior, the fight of the righteous and virtuous (signaling) against the deplorables..
Got that backwards dont you? The republicans are the self-righteous hypocrites, pretending to support moral values while spreading hate and distrust of any group which does not fit their view of what they should be.
 
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Jhhnn

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contrary to what people around here tend to think, I have moments of clarity here and there

Yeh, you did bothsides the shit out of it, even dragged in Hillary.

Or are you claiming that there really were very fine people on both sides in Charlottesville? Trump sure as Hell did, and that's just plain wrong.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
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Yes. Funny you mention that, because I had called this out earlier this week and compared Democrats of today to the "moral majority" of yesteryear. They're doing those exact same things.

Post from Monday.

(And thank you for the search working for once.)

That's ridiculous. Conservatives gave up any claim to morality when they made Trump President, easily & obviously the most immoral person to hold that office in our lifetimes.

And you'll defend him any way you can, of course. Libs intolerance of intolerance makes them the intolerant ones. And the real authoritarians, too.
 

Jaskalas

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Jun 23, 2004
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Again..are you a bumbling idiot?? I did say you should vote for Biden! Had you read the entire thread !
As it is your being lazy and assuming things that are not true...sort of like Trump!

Read the thread and you won`t look like an idiot when you post!

Biden has announced, and there's a topic for him. Are we not supposed to ask, why him?
Carry on with the virtue signaling then, if that is all this topic is, though I expect you'll find it to be a rather dull affair.
Not like the entirety of social media hasn't been Trump Trump Trump since mid 2015. By all means, carry on soldier.

Sorry for asking about Biden...
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Are you so triggered you just jump to the conclusion there is some apologism in any of that? Our politicians suck on both sides of the spectrum. Rather than attack someone who demands better, demand better. It's Americas fault that Hillary and Trump were our choices. Neither of them should have been the front runners of their sides. 2020 looks to be just as bad so far. It feels like you are trying to say 'the only way to beat trump is to get someone even crazier and crooked in there'. That's not a solution.




What? republicans do this a ton as well. Hello, G.W.?

Is there any national political figure you find acceptable?
 

JEDIYoda

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Biden has announced, and there's a topic for him. Are we not supposed to ask, why him?
Carry on with the virtue signaling then, if that is all this topic is, though I expect you'll find it to be a rather dull affair.
Not like the entirety of social media hasn't been Trump Trump Trump since mid 2015. By all means, carry on soldier.

Sorry for asking about Biden...
Just because there is a post about Biden already doesn`t mean there cannot be more....
there are numerous posts about Trump and about AOC........go figure.....
What is wrong with pointing out something that has not been said in the manner that Biden said it??
There is a lot of triuth in what Biden said -- the "soul of this nation" is at stake if President Donald Trump wins re-election.
 

JEDIYoda

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Are you so triggered you just jump to the conclusion there is some apologism in any of that? Our politicians suck on both sides of the spectrum. Rather than attack someone who demands better, demand better. It's Americas fault that Hillary and Trump were our choices. Neither of them should have been the front runners of their sides. 2020 looks to be just as bad so far. It feels like you are trying to say 'the only way to beat trump is to get someone even crazier and crooked in there'. That's not a solution.




What? republicans do this a ton as well. Hello, G.W.?

I think and hope that we all can agree that the solution is NOT to re-elect Trump!!
 

JEDIYoda

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I PREDICT.......
(Queue the spooky lights and thunder)
And forget turning to god for help. God will be with the children, up in Canada.
God will have nothing to do with this shit that is about to take place.
let us also agree that when the Republicans and Evangelicals(some of them) contend that Trump is God`s choice to lead our country -- that is so far from the truth even God is probably throwing up!!
 

HomerJS

Lifer
Feb 6, 2002
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I'm not validating Trump at all. I'm being real. He certainly hasn't not helped at all and made things worse. No disagreement there. However, to say the US only started losing face when he took over is a bit extreme.
Who was the last President that contributed to the moral decay of the nation?
 

Vic

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Jun 12, 2001
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A battle for the soul (a made up concept, btw)... that's something Democrats do a lot. Nothing can be a discussion about how there are different viewpoints, instead everything is good vs. evil, the morally superior vs. the morally inferior, the fight of the righteous and virtuous (signaling) against the deplorables..

Are you saying that there are no such things are good and evil, right and wrong?

Also I find your comment about different viewpoints odd in this context, coming from someone who always intentionally mischaracterizes any viewpoint he doesn't agree with as some absurd evil.

As for deplorables, you chose that label. Anyone of you could've have stood strong and claimed to be in other basket. But instead you chose to associate yourself with genuine deplorables just so you could play the victim. Consequences aren't just for other people, guy.
 

0roo0roo

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Got that backwards dont you? The republicans are the self-righteous hypocrites, pretending to support moral values while spreading hate and distrust of any group which does not fit their view of what they should be.

Its the left censoring every platform online, burning books now. The new original sin is now racism, and justifies their lack of restraint. They are even the creationists now because their ideology of equality denies the reality of evolution which doesn't produce equality anywhere in the world. The complete denial of human nature requires a fundamentalist belief in a creationist god.

and so of course they must endlessly lie.



The cult of the left now produces booklets of language policing
https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/common-language

We've already seen free speech die in other western countries, notably Canada
https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/03/28/whatcott-discrimination-pay-morgane-oger-transgender/
 
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brycejones

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Its the left censoring every platform online, burning books now. The new original sin is now racism, and justifies their lack of restraint. They are even the creationists now because their ideology of equality denies the reality of evolution which doesn't produce equality anywhere in the world. The complete denial of human nature requires a fundamentalist belief in a creationist god.

and so of course they must endlessly lie.
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The cult of the left now produces booklets of language policing
https://www.commonwealmagazine.org/common-language

We've already seen free speech die in other western countries, notably Canada
https://www.citynews1130.com/2019/03/28/whatcott-discrimination-pay-morgane-oger-transgender/

Gamer gate is over that way.
 
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Bitek

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I like Joe well enough, but he blew his chance in 2016 by not running.

I get why not, but some doors stay shut when closed.

Instead we were left with Hillary, and thus Trump, and now the party is ready to move on to a new generation.

Only way I see him winning is if the rest of the candidates blow it, everyone gets cold feet and picks for a safe bet.
 

Muse

Lifer
Jul 11, 2001
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I can't argue with Biden's points and must say I have no idea who's going to win the nomination at this point. I was thinking that Biden's damaged goods last week, but am now thinking maybe he could topple the don.
 

Genx87

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Apr 8, 2002
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I totally agree that the soul of this nation is at stake!!
I find it ironic that politics is all about winning no matter who you hurt or what lies you tell in order to get people to believe you!
The irony of this is that those who believe the lies that Trump propogates are themselves liars and cowards and racists!
Who would have ever guessed that in one term as president a person would be able to tear down the goodwill and reputation of the United States!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-joe-biden-says-asked-obama-not-endorse-155741462--election.html
At a train station en route to Philadelphia, Biden said he "asked President Obama not to endorse" and "Whoever wins this nomination should win it on their own merit."

Asked what separates him from the rest of the massive Democratic field, Biden said, "That will be for the Democrats to decide."

Before walking away, Biden cheerily says, "Welcome to Delaware."

Biden has said the "soul of this nation" is at stake if President Donald Trump wins re-election.

The soul of the nation is at stake has been used every election in some form. Every election is the most important in history. This one is special ect ect.

That said I think Biden would wipe his ass with Trump. Biden runs in 2016 instead of the worst and least likeable candidate I can remember. Trump is back to his routine of bribing russians for real-estate deals. And getting piss poured on himself. While the GOP is back on the smaller govt train investigating President Biden over something.
 

JEDIYoda

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The soul of the nation is at stake has been used every election in some form. Every election is the most important in history. This one is special ect ect.
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Nice try . But wrong in so many ways! Context is one thing and this gravely true this time around! If you don`t see that to be the case then we have bigger problems than just Trump!
 

sandorski

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He's right about Trump, but Hillary said similar things and lost. He has to bring more to the table than this, which I'm sure he will. If he campaigns from the Establishment position, he is going to have a tough time with Bernie and other Progressive candidates though. They are offering far more than the status quo minus Trump.
 

Muse

Lifer
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From my perspective everything establishment in the Democratic party needs to die. We have to go straight to class warfare. Democratic smarts needs to be applied to how to take Democracy back without authoritarian violence and victim revenge mentality. It is the system that needs to be change, not revenge that needs to be handed out.
Pardon me, but can you point out where authoritarian violence and victim revenge mentality reside in the Democratic Party? I know it's deeply entrenched in Republican strongholds, but am not aware of it being endemic to that party's main opposition.
 

Genx87

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Nice try . But wrong in so many ways! Context is one thing and this gravely true this time around! If you don`t see that to be the case then we have bigger problems than just Trump!

Of course it is true this time around, just like it was the last 20 elections. It is so amusing to me to watch the same tropes thrown out there by politicians\media talking heads and the people will gulp it up every time. They wouldn't do it if it didn't work.
 
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