Muse: It is certainly overly simplistic of you to regard the two major parties as on the other side of a semi-transparent mirror, IOW, basically reflections of one another and essentially without significant differentiation. There are reasons 90% of blacks vote Democratic, reasons minorities tend to vote Democratic, reasons white evangelicals vote overwhelmingly Republican. Reasons the better educated, the urban, females lean significantly toward the Democratic Party. Reasons older white males tend to vote Republican.
M: When I said, "From my perspective everything establishment in the Democratic party needs to die. We have to go straight to class warfare. Democratic smarts needs to be applied to how to take Democracy back without authoritarian violence and victim revenge mentality. It is the system that needs to be change, not revenge that needs to be handed out.", I was expressing an opinion that implied there is an authoritarian reflexive response among liberals to right wing authoritarianism that I see as dangerous and identical if opposite to it and a fundamentally better way to react, what I would refer to as real or properly progress , one that integrates the opposites that divide and define the left and the right one that comes from understandings that flow from a higher state of conscious awareness.
You responded to that as follows:
"Pardon me, but can you point out where authoritarian violence and victim revenge mentality reside in the Democratic Party? I know it's deeply entrenched in Republican strongholds, but am not aware of it being endemic to that party's main opposition."
I didn't answer your question directly because I didn't want to make you a list: Instead I said:
"First off, you used the word endemic, not me."
You did not respond to that. I also said:
"Secondly, your post strikes me as being resistant and challenging to what I presented in my opinion which suggests to me there may be an unwillingness to see what is concealed in your question. I can't show you anything if you are unwilling to see it at an unconscious level. We can only see what we already believe, not the other way round as much as we dream. Thirdly, some insights are only possible when there is a groundwork of past perceptions only upon which a new perception can arise:"
Here I described why, in part, I didn't want to list. I wanted to say why, if you don't agree, a list won't necessarily help you see. I meant this as a generality not particularly just applicable to you. It went like so:
"The first of these is that humanity is asleep living in a dream, the one I mentioned above, the world we see is the one we believe is there and what we believe we believe because of conditioning. The realization that the left is potentially as authoritarian as the right rests on the understanding of man as a programmed machine, that it obeys the laws of programming, that we are just machines unless we have discovered our true nature, that is to say, died to all those dreams, or sacred cows out thousand tons of cabbage, as I like to call them."
Notice that I said potentially as authoritarian. That does not mean there is at the present time an equivalency. I am well aware of the differences between conservative and liberal thinking and fully believe that modern Trump Republicans are off the rails and profoundly authoritarian. I said also:
"In short sleeping humanity is trapped to a Karmic wheel, it obeys the laws that govern us in our sleep. One of these is that we create what we fear. That means that it is the fear on the right of the left that the left is programmed to destroy the sacred cows of the right will create a moral imperative that the ends justify the means, that one has a sacred duty to ones sacred cows to defend, let's just say God for now, against the atheist left. Thus any wrong can be justified because you are defending God.
So what happens on the left, there arises the fear of the Spanish Inquisition, along with the justification to bring down the clergy, to destroy the threat they pose by any means.
What this tells us is quite simple. If the right engages in authoritarian rule, the left will respond in kind. We create what we fear. Fear is the root of authoritarianism and fear creates fear. Whatever you fear you wind up becoming because the roots are already planted deep within. The right will not see their willingness to do evil to the other because they have labeled the other as the evil, and the left will not see they are just the same as what they also fear and hate.
Once you realize this truth will be realized regardless of intention, you will know the left and the right have the same authoritarian potential. and if one is present the other is too or is on its way. You can easily verify what I say is the truth if you will simply look at yourself and see that everything you hold sacred is a pile of bull shit. There is no such thing as good or evil. There is only heaven and it is all around you or if you prefer, within."
Notice that I said that both sides have the same authoritarian potential. You seem to me to be saying that because both sides are not at present fully equally effective in imposing authoritarianism of the country at the moment doesn't mean they can't become so or that the left can't outstrip them. That is my point. I am not accepting that I am practicing the both sides bullshit. I am saying that both sides is inevitable owing to mechanical laws that are inviolate when people are unaware of their inner conditioning.
Muse: You have a great predilection to develop complex theories that are rooted in your precious contemplations. It's what makes you you here, but you do yourself and others here a disservice when you conclude that people other than yourself do not share what you regard as your deep insights and that they and their contributions are therefore virtually worthless. You should have greater respect, yes, and greater humility.
You're not the only person capable of deep insights.
The insights I offered, why do you call them deep. They are obvious to me. Why would I bother to express them if I thought you couldn't get them? I am interested in truth, not in competition. And all that I understand about anybody is it is real is because I saw those truths within myself. I know what made me blind and what I had to pay to see the little I can see.