Biden hits the nail on the head!!No mincing words---

[JEDIYoda]

I totally agree that the soul of this nation is at stake!!
I find it ironic that politics is all about winning no matter who you hurt or what lies you tell in order to get people to believe you!
The irony of this is that those who believe the lies that Trump propogates are themselves liars and cowards and racists!
Who would have ever guessed that in one term as president a person would be able to tear down the goodwill and reputation of the United States!!

https://www.yahoo.com/news/latest-joe-biden-says-asked-obama-not-endorse-155741462--election.html
At a train station en route to Philadelphia, Biden said he "asked President Obama not to endorse" and "Whoever wins this nomination should win it on their own merit."

Asked what separates him from the rest of the massive Democratic field, Biden said, "That will be for the Democrats to decide."

Before walking away, Biden cheerily says, "Welcome to Delaware."

Biden has said the "soul of this nation" is at stake if President Donald Trump wins re-election.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Trump certainly has made it worse, but let's be honest it was on a downhill slope long before him.

 

[woolfe9998]

Watch Biden's first advert:

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article229663094.html

It's a well made ad, but I question going right for the identity politics first. If it's just an opening shot to grab the attention of minority voters for the primary and he doesn't plan to emphasize it too much down the road, then it's fine.

Either way, Biden will not be my choice.

Buttigieg 2020

 

[JEDIYoda]

Trump certainly has made it worse, but let's be honest it was on a downhill slope long before him.

Here we go again using the past to validate Trump!
If we are going to be honest -- Trump Fuckede things up royally no matter what was happening before Trump took office!!
The problem with discussing threads like this is that somebody will always claim things were worse and set out to prove their point!
Yet that same person won`t admit that there was a lot more good than there is now!

 

[ImpulsE69]

I'm not validating Trump at all. I'm being real. He certainly hasn't not helped at all and made things worse. No disagreement there. However, to say the US only started losing face when he took over is a bit extreme.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Watch Biden's first advert:

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article229663094.html

It's a well made ad, but I question going right for the identity politics first. If it's just an opening shot to grab the attention of minority voters for the primary and he doesn't plan to emphasize it too much down the road, then it's fine.

Either way, Biden will not be my choice.

Buttigieg 2020

Did I mention anything about voting for Biden??? NO!!
All I did was point out that his statement is 100% accurate!!
I will vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee!! I have not made up my mind!!

 

[woolfe9998]

Did I mention anything about voting for Biden??? NO!!
All I did was point out that his statement is 100% accurate!!
I will vote for whoever is the Democratic nominee!! I have not made up my mind!!

I didn't say that you did. I just stated my own preference which right now is Buttigieg.

 

[ImpulsE69]

I really am hoping that by 2020 enough of the republicans come to their senses that someone more sensible runs. Unfortunately there isn't a democratic candidate I care for either. It's going to be 2016 all over again.

 

[Jhhnn]

Trump certainly has made it worse, but let's be honest it was on a downhill slope long before him.

Thanks to decades of relentless right wing propaganda & agitprop. The GOP built Shit Mountain & Trump planted his flag atop it.

 

[dawheat]

I really am hoping that by 2020 enough of the republicans come to their senses that someone more sensible runs. Unfortunately there isn't a democratic candidate I care for either. It's going to be 2016 all over again.

Ah the false equivalency between someone potentially not great vs. historically terrible.

 

[Jhhnn]

Watch Biden's first advert:

https://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/white-house/article229663094.html

It's a well made ad, but I question going right for the identity politics first. If it's just an opening shot to grab the attention of minority voters for the primary and he doesn't plan to emphasize it too much down the road, then it's fine.

Either way, Biden will not be my choice.

Buttigieg 2020

WTF are you talking about with the "identity politics" routine? Biden is telling us that we, America, have to stand up to bigotry of all sorts. He tells us that the events in Charlottesville weren't perpetrated by very fine people at all & that our President characterizing them as such is complicity.

 

[Jaskalas]

I totally agree that the soul of this nation is at stake!!

Sure, in the general.
Why should I vote for Biden in the primary?

What he said does not set him apart, if all Democrats agree on it.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Ah the false equivalency between someone potentially not great vs. historically terrible.

Ah the false sense of you have any clue how I vote.

Forgive me for wishing our choices of shit and shittier weren't better.

 

[Jhhnn]

I really am hoping that by 2020 enough of the republicans come to their senses that someone more sensible runs. Unfortunately there isn't a democratic candidate I care for either. It's going to be 2016 all over again.

That's ridiculous apologism for Trump & his supporters. Democrats cannot possibly field a candidate as corrupt & malevolent as Trump. That candidate does not exist & Dems wouldn't for for them anyway.

 

[SlowSpyder]

A battle for the soul (a made up concept, btw)... that's something Democrats do a lot. Nothing can be a discussion about how there are different viewpoints, instead everything is good vs. evil, the morally superior vs. the morally inferior, the fight of the righteous and virtuous (signaling) against the deplorables..

 

[Jhhnn]

A battle for the soul (a made up concept, btw)... that's something Democrats do a lot. Nothing can be a discussion about how there are different viewpoints, instead everything is good vs. evil, the morally superior vs. the morally inferior, the fight of the righteous and virtuous (signaling) against the deplorables..

A battle for the soul (a made up concept, btw)... that's something Democrats do a lot. Nothing can be a discussion about how there are different viewpoints, instead everything is good vs. evil, the morally superior vs. the morally inferior, the fight of the righteous and virtuous (signaling) against the deplorables..

So persecuted!

 

[ImpulsE69]

That's ridiculous apologism for Trump & his supporters. Democrats cannot possibly field a candidate as corrupt & malevolent as Trump. That candidate does not exist & Dems wouldn't for for them anyway.

Are you so triggered you just jump to the conclusion there is some apologism in any of that? Our politicians suck on both sides of the spectrum. Rather than attack someone who demands better, demand better. It's Americas fault that Hillary and Trump were our choices. Neither of them should have been the front runners of their sides. 2020 looks to be just as bad so far. It feels like you are trying to say 'the only way to beat trump is to get someone even crazier and crooked in there'. That's not a solution.

A battle for the soul (a made up concept, btw)... that's something Democrats do a lot. Nothing can be a discussion about how there are different viewpoints, instead everything is good vs. evil, the morally superior vs. the morally inferior, the fight of the righteous and virtuous (signaling) against the deplorables..

What? republicans do this a ton as well. Hello, G.W.?

 

[SlowSpyder]

Are you so triggered you just jump to the conclusion there is some apologism in any of that? Our politicians suck on both sides of the spectrum. Demand better.




What? republicans do this a ton as well. Hello, G.W.?

I'm not suggesting that the right has never used something similar, when they were the "moral majority" that is all they did. But, today the left is in full FUD mode when it comes to anything Trump. It also used to be the old GOP playbook to create a boogeyman and exploit that fear for votes. Today the left has taken ownership and improved that process.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Sure, in the general.
Why should I vote for Biden in the primary?

What he said does not set him apart, if all Democrats agree on it.

Again..are you a bumbling idiot?? I did say you should vote for Biden! Had you read the entire thread !
As it is your being lazy and assuming things that are not true...sort of like Trump!

Read the thread and you won`t look like an idiot when you post!

 

[JEDIYoda]

A battle for the soul (a made up concept, btw)... that's something Democrats do a lot. Nothing can be a discussion about how there are different viewpoints, instead everything is good vs. evil, the morally superior vs. the morally inferior, the fight of the righteous and virtuous (signaling) against the deplorables..

Another person wanting 4 more years of this presedential idiot in office!

 

[JEDIYoda]

I'm not suggesting that the right has never used something similar, when they were the "moral majority" that is all they did. But, today the left is in full FUD mode when it comes to anything Trump. It also used to be the old GOP playbook to create a boogeyman and exploit that fear for votes. Today the left has taken ownership and improved that process.

Trump is responsible for FUD mode! Trump did it to himself!!

 

[Ventanni]

Are you so triggered you just jump to the conclusion there is some apologism in any of that? Our politicians suck on both sides of the spectrum. Rather than attack someone who demands better, demand better. It's Americas fault that Hillary and Trump were our choices. Neither of them should have been the front runners of their sides. 2020 looks to be just as bad so far. It feels like you are trying to say 'the only way to beat trump is to get someone even crazier and crooked in there'. That's not a solution.

This man speaks wisdom right here. Our politicians are nothing but a reflection of our own selves.

 

[ImpulsE69]

This man speaks wisdom right here. Our politicians are nothing but a reflection of our own selves.

contrary to what people around here tend to think, I have moments of clarity here and there

 

[Moonbeam]

From my perspective everything establishment in the Democratic party needs to die. We have to go straight to class warfare. Democratic smarts needs to be applied to how to take Democracy back without authoritarian violence and victim revenge mentality. It is the system that needs to be change, not revenge that needs to be handed out.

 

[dank69]

WTF are you talking about with the "identity politics" routine? Biden is telling us that we, America, have to stand up to bigotry of all sorts. He tells us that the events in Charlottesville weren't perpetrated by very fine people at all & that our President characterizing them as such is complicity.

The only thing independents and conservatives are going to absorb from Biden's ad and posts like yours is "see? leftists are the real bigots."