Biden resorts to Trump tactics: flat out lies and misleading claims

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Amused

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blackangst1

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OK, but did you start a thread DURING his admin???

Or did you just jump on the dead body?

Hey, here is a good test of your ACTUAL current position: Trump and Biden are on the ballot in 2024. No one else. Who do you vote for?
We're 2 years away from seeing who is on the next POTUS election. I cant answer that. And Trump isnt on the 2024 ballot, yet.
 

blackangst1

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You didn’t care about truth or facts until Biden got into office. You have zero credibility when it comes to honesty
Youre full of shit. Wanna make a deal? I post 10 posts where I criticized Trump and you send me $1000. Deal?
 

Pohemi

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Captante

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Sorry, but in a democracy there will never be such thing as equal economic status. If thats what youre looking for, try communism.

Seriously bro what's your point?

"Equal" economic status isn't the objective only fairness.

The middle class in America IS dying which is bad news for everyone INCLUDING the very wealthy in the long-term.

Thing is though I'm NOT "okay" with that and apparently you are?
 
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Pohemi

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Wow, Americans really have no awareness of history, do they? Are you all 12 years old?
That's just as easily dishonesty as it is ignorance. Could be either...you choose.
Why bitch about someone who hasnt been in office almost 2 years? WTF?
Where are all your threads about the dishonesty while he was in office for 4 years? Pull em up! /wontholdbreath
 

Amused

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Ah yes. Ignore the article I posted and just base it on your and my taxes. Smart!

Hint: MEANINGFUL WAY.


On the whole, low-income families appear to have received the least savings, while high-income families saved the most. Middle-class families saw mixed results. The biggest winners from Trump’s tax cuts were probably businesses. Between 2017 and 2018, corporations paid 22.4% less income tax. The total value of refunds issued by the IRS to businesses also increased by 33.8% nationally.


Surprise tax bills for some middle-class families
The lower income tax rates should have helped Americans throughout the year because employers generally withheld less income tax from employee paychecks, increasing their after-tax income. Unfortunately, many workers didn’t know they needed to make changes on their W-4 forms to counteract the changes. The result was that some workers had more take-home pay, but then underpaid their income taxes and owed the IRS thousands of dollars on Tax Day.

High-income taxpayers saw the biggest benefit
High-income taxpayers likely saw more benefit overall because of the cumulative effect of having the rates for six of the seven tax brackets lowered. (That is, the lower your income was, the less you saved from each tax bracket, because your income fell into fewer total tax brackets.)

In addition to the standard income tax brackets, Trump’s tax cuts lowered the capital gains tax brackets. Individuals with high investment income likely benefited the most because the changes allowed more high-income individuals to qualify for a lower capital gains tax rate.
 

blackangst1

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Hint: MEANINGFUL WAY.


On the whole, low-income families appear to have received the least savings, while high-income families saved the most. Middle-class families saw mixed results. The biggest winners from Trump’s tax cuts were probably businesses. Between 2017 and 2018, corporations paid 22.4% less income tax. The total value of refunds issued by the IRS to businesses also increased by 33.8% nationally.


Surprise tax bills for some middle-class families
The lower income tax rates should have helped Americans throughout the year because employers generally withheld less income tax from employee paychecks, increasing their after-tax income. Unfortunately, many workers didn’t know they needed to make changes on their W-4 forms to counteract the changes. The result was that some workers had more take-home pay, but then underpaid their income taxes and owed the IRS thousands of dollars on Tax Day.

High-income taxpayers saw the biggest benefit
High-income taxpayers likely saw more benefit overall because of the cumulative effect of having the rates for six of the seven tax brackets lowered. (That is, the lower your income was, the less you saved from each tax bracket, because your income fell into fewer total tax brackets.)

In addition to the standard income tax brackets, Trump’s tax cuts lowered the capital gains tax brackets. Individuals with high investment income likely benefited the most because the changes allowed more high-income individuals to qualify for a lower capital gains tax rate.
So why havent Democrats fixed this?
 
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cytg111

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And it shouldnt be. Thats my point. I think the two party system has outlived its usefulness.
Sure…. but take a trip in this rocket and take a view from above… How many coalitions, deals, tradeoffs must one make with a shit ton of people, groups, segments, classes to reach a common denominator in the first place to even get the nomination to begin with? Its almost that old saying that the deal that noone is satisfied with is probably the best deal.
 

Amused

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So why havent Democrats fixed this?

Because they do not have the filibuster proof majority that Trump had.

They've done as much as they could. And when he got the facts incorrect on their effort to increase corporate taxes, you called him a liar.

I mean, is this a serious question?
 
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