Wow that's cheap compared to here. They are very expensive here, and that's without the hardware!
I looked into it for fun once but I'd be spending over a grand. How do toilet seats work on those, do you actually need to sit direct on the porcelain?
.. americans...
we CIVILIZED people who do not like skidmarks on our fancy european underwear have mastered the sacred art of the bidet, so here is what you should know.
1. yes, they have a hot water line. It comes out of a mixer faucet, two individual knobs, so you can set whatever temp is appropriate for your delicate poopchute. In the event that the hot water runs out, pleasedo not use the bidetMOVE TO A COUNTRY WHERE HOT WATER DOES NOT RUN OUT.
2. electronic bidets are an abomination.
A simple, as god intended bidet should be as such:
Amazon.it sells bidets for 80 EUR, if you're paying hundreds, you're getting ripped off.
Somehow, i feel that i need to specify that you would lay this next to the toilet. It drains down the same pipe, take water from the same tubes as the sink does. They are bolted down permanently, and AFAIK, unless tragedy strikes, are immortal.
3. you do not need a special spout to direct water up your browneye. However, should you happen to be of that persuasion, then yeah, why not. Keep in mind that we partly fill it, wash, and drain. We do not need a turbojet to cleans years on encrustment - YMMV.
.. less guns .. more bidets.
DAAAAYUM, those are some insane prices. I mean, here is what it costs in mamma italia: https://www.leroymerlin.it/catalogo...lo-muro-miky-new-ceramica-dolomite-36276835-p
Look .. you *can* live without a bidet. It's not the end of the world, but a bidet should last, well .. forever. Unless you break it, it's not going to fail because of use - it's a thick piece of ceramic, we have ceramics from a thousand years ago made with primitive methods that are still viable, a modern ceramic will not break unless you take a hammer to it. It will last forever. Even if it was a thousand bucks, dude, it's a good investment. I can see people not having a bath but only a shower, because baths are big. But a bidet take up very little space.
Wait, now i am going to really sell it to you: it's not just to wash your ass. You can soak your feet in it and because it's lower down, it's much easier to do your pedicure.
I would prefer a on-the-floor model to a on-the-wall model, as i would think the on-the-floor should be really indistructible, but the wall-mount ones exist as well: https://www.leroymerlin.it/catalogo/bidet-sospeso-idealmood-ideal-standard-36136541-p
OK, I'm not the only oneEverytime I read the topic I get Biden instead of Bidet at first heh.
OK, I'm not the only one
I have a Bio Bidet 6800 from Costco. They're usually $400, on sale for $199 until 3/14:
It's a little pricey but it's 100% worth the money! Rode out the TP shortage no problem lol. Has a remote control, warm water, just needs to tap into the water line (not dependent on a hot water line, it's electrically heated) & a plug nearby. Make sure to select either round or elongated for seat shape.
Thanks for chiming in This building's hot water is "always and instantly hot". But great point about the (un)likelyhood of just the cold water being cut off! Maybe my scenario isn't plausible, which is good - then the chance of butt burning is virtually zeroMy concern would be more like, will the water ever be warm in the first place and not freezing cold. Example: go to the bathroom sink and turn on full hot water. Do you actually have hot water or do you need to wait for it? Same thing will happen with the bidet.
I also can't really think of an example where cold water would be cut off but hot water still works.
It's quite common for a manual bidet to take "two inputs": a hot and a cold water line separately - one connects under your sink, the other to the toilet cold water line. The unit mixes without the need for a heater or pump. Just google or Amazon for "manual hot water bidet". These units are much simpler and cheaper than the electric ones.I've never heard of one with a hot water line. Not to mention, you would never have a hot water line run to your toilet already, which means running another line either from the sink or elsewhere.
Spend the money, get one with an electric heater and temperature control.
That's a pretty cool contraption! I hope a home attendant robot will handle all butt-wiping tasks in the future. Respect for taking care of your wife and helping her through the difficult times. In my case, I'm looking for a more hands-off approach where the caretaker would "automate" the cleaning with a press of a button, like a bidet.@SoftwareEng
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My wife had spinal fusion surgery many years ago, a full fiberglass shell she had to wear for 6 weeks limited her reach to the neither regions. Neither of us enjoyed the aforementioned tasks.
The local health supply place had the above. It worked great, and we were both happier.
The next re-check visit to the surgeon, who had explained before surgery all the limitations she would have for a while, never mentioned this aspect. WOW, she let him have it with both barrels, and told him he needed to add this to the list of things patients would need, along with the walker that she needed for a period.
Well yes, my dear European skidmark-free friend, but you also have castles with hidden bathrooms of large proportions, which you can retrofit with additional toilet bowls such as your example above Most American bathrooms lack the space to install this "intended bidet", not to mention non-modification rules for rental properties... americans...
we CIVILIZED people who do not like skidmarks on our fancy european underwear have mastered the sacred art of the bidet, so here is what you should know.
1. yes, they have a hot water line. It comes out of a mixer faucet, two individual knobs, so you can set whatever temp is appropriate for your delicate poopchute. In the event that the hot water runs out, pleasedo not use the bidetMOVE TO A COUNTRY WHERE HOT WATER DOES NOT RUN OUT.
2. electronic bidets are an abomination.
A simple, as god intended bidet should be as such:
Amazon.it sells bidets for 80 EUR, if you're paying hundreds, you're getting ripped off.
Somehow, i feel that i need to specify that you would lay this next to the toilet. It drains down the same pipe, take water from the same tubes as the sink does. They are bolted down permanently, and AFAIK, unless tragedy strikes, are immortal.
3. you do not need a special spout to direct water up your browneye. However, should you happen to be of that persuasion, then yeah, why not. Keep in mind that we partly fill it, wash, and drain. We do not need a turbojet to cleans years on encrustment - YMMV.
.. less guns .. more bidets.
meh, i'll take a fancy japanese electronic bidet over that old fashioned european toilet + faucet contraption
it's a waste of space to have a bidet separate from the toilet
and also i might not be able to switch between the two without... leaving a trail
We have the simple bidets with only cold water and honestly they work great. The cold water isn't really that big of a deal unless you keep the stream on for a long time. Only bad point is no dryer, so you have to use high-grade toilet paper to dry off (if you use cheap stuff it's going to dissolve and you won't be happy). I liked the design of this bidet so much that I installed them in all 3 toilets in our house:
3 months later and my family only likes to go #2 at home
Everytime I read the topic I get Biden instead of Bidet at first heh.
OK, I'm not the only one
Same here every time I see the word i think Biden lol.
Nice list of Pro's. Pssst... It's a conspiracy, and the toiler paper companies are in on it, that's why the bidets never caught on.Basically, bidets come in 3 types:
1. Basic (cold water, with a knob...avoid like the plague) $
2. Decent (warm water, wireless remote) $$
3. Ridiculous (self-cleaning, motorized lid, etc.) $$$
The 6800 model is nice for a few reasons:
1. It goes on sale for $200 to $250 (vs. $400 to $600). Still expensive but not like PS5 expensive lol.
2. It has a blue LED nightlight, super handy for midnight runs!
3. You can set the temp of the water (water-line, warm, hot)
4. The seat is heated (can turn on/off)
5. You can attach it aftermarket to any round (or elongated) toilet you want (no special $2,000 Toto-whatever required!)
6. You can adjust the position of the water spout, as well as the speed & pulse of the water
7. It does have a dryer in it, but it takes forever
8. Costco purchase + great customer service (I had to replace a cracked seat & they just mailed a whole one out for free!)
You'll never go back to "just" using TP, no joke. I don't know why these haven't caught on in America, they need to!! The 6800 is a really decent budget model. Lots of features, pricey but not insane, easy to install, etc. I picked up another one last Black Friday.
Nice list of Pro's. Pssst... It's a conspiracy, and the toiler paper companies are in on it, that's why the bidets never caught on.
Bidets are a big deal, especially for the ladies. They'll thank you, just make sure you go with a model that heats water. Bonus points for model with "Feminine modes," as being able to hose off the snootch without taking a shower is a game changer (I've had three different women tell me this).
To be fair, I've never looked very hard and I suspect that most all of the ones marketed here as "plug and play" are those that heat the water. To me, having a water line run from a sink to the toilet is far more unappealing than an electric cord, but neither of them present good options. Electric is at least a little easier to run than plumbing.It's quite common for a manual bidet to take "two inputs": a hot and a cold water line separately - one connects under your sink, the other to the toilet cold water line. The unit mixes without the need for a heater or pump. Just google or Amazon for "manual hot water bidet". These units are much simpler and cheaper than the electric ones.
To be fair, I've never looked very hard and I suspect that most all of the ones marketed here as "plug and play" are those that heat the water. To me, having a water line run from a sink to the toilet is far more unappealing than an electric cord, but neither of them present good options. Electric is at least a little easier to run than plumbing.
Just depends on what type of house design you have and where existing outlets / power are in your room. For me, I have an outlet on the same wall as the toilet, but on the opposite side of the wall, so I could simply drop a wire from that outlet down to a new outlet, cut a hole for a new box, put it in, and be ready to rock. Most outlets have double terminals since they are meant to be daisy chained, so if you get lucky and have the last outlet on a chain it's pretty simple. Similarly, if you have a switch box nearby, you can just drop a line from the switch box and tie into the hot, neutral, and ground from there.I've been doing some research since this thread came up. Appears most have a small water tank heated by electric, some high end models appear to have no tank but an instant hot water feature like electric tankless water heater.
Nobody seems to elaborate what the difference is between a 6800U the one sold for $4/500 and the Costco 6800 for $3/200. Only thing that is said is the costco version is inferior or has fewer features but nobody elaborates what those features or quality issues are. I suspect it is a separate model number just to sell to costco.
Wife would love this, only issue I have is getting power to it. I have replaced plugs and switches before but never run a new wire to a new plug before. I have some dudes who know what to do maybe I'll hit one of them up.