Big Bang - just admit we have no freaking idea

[SphinxnihpS]

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Everybody please turn to Genesis chapter 1. Genesis chapter 1, verse 1. BRB.

Actually, Bible says universe will be destroyed (in order to re-create a new and perfect universe, including a new earth) in great fire and melting of the elements. So it wouldn't be against Bible really to say that's the same way it came into existence. Big Bang is neither anti- nor pro-theistic, it just describes the initial moments after the universe sprung into existence. Like most things in life, it is subject to your own world view.

Actually the Bible is fucking retarded.

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: RESmonkey

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
if (spidey07 == 1)
printf("republican_antiscience_retard.txt")

oh come on.

I know, right? That if statement is always going to evaluate to true, no matter what. And the printf will only ever print a file name, not the file contents. For shame.

Fixed the first part; the second part's point was to just print "name.txt"; I believe it's an ATOT thing to scream "republican.txt" or "spidey.txt" whenever something like this is posted.

It's a Phokus P&N thing, which became an ATOT thing

 

[Ruptga]

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Everybody please turn to Genesis chapter 1. Genesis chapter 1, verse 1. BRB.

Actually, Bible says universe will be destroyed (in order to re-create a new and perfect universe, including a new earth) in great fire and melting of the elements. So it wouldn't be against Bible really to say that's the same way it came into existence. Big Bang is neither anti- nor pro-theistic, it just describes the initial moments after the universe sprung into existence. Like most things in life, it is subject to your own world view.

Actually the Bible is fucking retarded.

Actually you're fucking retarded.


Let's hear it for baseless subjective claims!

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS
Actually the Bible is fucking retarded.

Actually you're fucking retarded.

Let's hear it for baseless subjective claims!

IMO, neither of your claims is baseless.

 

[Ruptga]

Alright then, not baseless per se, but claims that he's not backing up at all. We can claim whatever we want all day long, but it's totally meaningless without proof or examples to back it up.

 

[JTsyo]

What I couldn't get my head around was how the 4 forces were one combined force at the beginning. I guess that's something that shows up in the math and not conceptual.

 

[DrawninwarD]

Originally posted by: spidey07
We're working with remnants of it, it all doesn't make any sense. That first sub-second, we, just, like totally don't understand.

2009, no unified theory and we're still scratching our head.

I love how you use correct grammar and punctuation, but still, like, talk, just like this.

 

[AyashiKaibutsu]

Originally posted by: DrawninwarD

Originally posted by: spidey07
We're working with remnants of it, it all doesn't make any sense. That first sub-second, we, just, like totally don't understand.

2009, no unified theory and we're still scratching our head.

I love how you use correct grammar and punctuation, but still, like, talk, just like this.

Two independant clauses can't be seperated with just a comma (first sentance). Punctuation fail.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Originally posted by: DrawninwarD

Originally posted by: spidey07
We're working with remnants of it, it all doesn't make any sense. That first sub-second, we, just, like totally don't understand.

2009, no unified theory and we're still scratching our head.

I love how you use correct grammar and punctuation, but still, like, talk, just like this.

Yeah, well, you know, that's, just, like, your opinion, man.

EDIT: Also, if you read that in William Shatner's voice it would be at least as good as in Christopher Walken's voice.

 

[surfsatwerk]

Originally posted by: spidey07
Sorry, posting while lit again. Carry on. It was one of those watching discovery channel moments where they said "and then there were particles!"

While screaming at the TV I was urged to post this. "What do you mean there were particles? What do you mean there was mass? Why are you spreading such lies!"

So you come to your informed opinion about the Big Bang from watching TV?

 

[RESmonkey]

Originally posted by: ADDAvenger

Originally posted by: SphinxnihpS

Originally posted by: Crono

Originally posted by: RedSquirrel
Everybody please turn to Genesis chapter 1. Genesis chapter 1, verse 1. BRB.

Actually, Bible says universe will be destroyed (in order to re-create a new and perfect universe, including a new earth) in great fire and melting of the elements. So it wouldn't be against Bible really to say that's the same way it came into existence. Big Bang is neither anti- nor pro-theistic, it just describes the initial moments after the universe sprung into existence. Like most things in life, it is subject to your own world view.

Actually the Bible is fucking retarded.

Actually you're fucking retarded.


Let's hear it for baseless subjective claims!

bible is made up stuff. like fiction; harry potter. u think hogwarts is real?

sry typing with 1 hand , punctuation = ugh.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: JTsyo
What I couldn't get my head around was how the 4 forces were one combined force at the beginning. I guess that's something that shows up in the math and not conceptual.

I have a really tough time getting my head around this too, I kind of just take it as a given. If someone has a book or article that explains this in an easily digestible way I'd be keen to read it.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: l0cke
Everyone knows that fusetalk created the universe by timewarping someone's post very, very, very far back in time.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

This is clearly the answer.

 

[AbAbber2k]

Originally posted by: destrekor

Originally posted by: UberNeuman

Originally posted by: spidey07
We're working with remnants of it, it all doesn't make any sense. That first sub-second, we, just, like totally don't understand.

2009, no unified theory and we're still scratching our head.

This is funny if you read it in Christopher Walken's voice....

:laugh: you are sooo right.
We now need to get Walken to actually record himself saying that in his classy voice.

Motion to replace all Morgan Freeman monologues with Christopher Walken.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
if ("spidey07.txt")
printf("republican_antiscience_retard.txt")

oh come on.

I know, right? That if statement is always going to evaluate to true, no matter what. And the printf will only ever print a file name, not the file contents. For shame.

You totally should have just made it a variable that FuseTalk can use to start a thread with, also just merge the different Spidey files.

$spidey = "republican_antiscience_antigay_antiatheist_antihealthcare.txt";

Do one on Phokus/sandumski/Craig666.

 

[RESmonkey]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
if ("spidey07.txt")
printf("republican_antiscience_retard.txt")

oh come on.

I know, right? That if statement is always going to evaluate to true, no matter what. And the printf will only ever print a file name, not the file contents. For shame.

You totally should have just made it a variable that FuseTalk can use to start a thread with, also just merge the different Spidey files.

$spidey = "republican_antiscience_antigay_antiatheist_antihealthcare.txt";

Do one on Phokus/sandumski/Craig666.

aren't you the other crazy antiscience who thinks 'engineers are a dime a dozen'?

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: RESmonkey

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
if ("spidey07.txt")
printf("republican_antiscience_retard.txt")

oh come on.

I know, right? That if statement is always going to evaluate to true, no matter what. And the printf will only ever print a file name, not the file contents. For shame.

You totally should have just made it a variable that FuseTalk can use to start a thread with, also just merge the different Spidey files.

$spidey = "republican_antiscience_antigay_antiatheist_antihealthcare.txt";

Do one on Phokus/sandumski/Craig666.

aren't you the other crazy antiscience who thinks 'engineers are a dime a dozen'?

link?

 

[RESmonkey]

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: RESmonkey

Originally posted by: JS80

Originally posted by: TruePaige

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Regs

Originally posted by: RESmonkey
if ("spidey07.txt")
printf("republican_antiscience_retard.txt")

oh come on.

I know, right? That if statement is always going to evaluate to true, no matter what. And the printf will only ever print a file name, not the file contents. For shame.

You totally should have just made it a variable that FuseTalk can use to start a thread with, also just merge the different Spidey files.

$spidey = "republican_antiscience_antigay_antiatheist_antihealthcare.txt";

Do one on Phokus/sandumski/Craig666.

aren't you the other crazy antiscience who thinks 'engineers are a dime a dozen'?

link?

Might be JD50 or some similar name. Not too sure who it was.

 

[Zensal]

It makes your brain hurt to think about these things.

What was before the big bang? Was it another universe like ours? What is beyond the reaches of where our universe has expanded/exploded out too? Are their other "big bangs" happening out there? Where did it all come from? Why were those men with blue hands chasing River?

*head explodes*

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Zensal
It makes your brain hurt to think about these things.

What was before the big bang? Was it another universe like ours? What is beyond the reaches of where our universe has expanded/exploded out too? Are their other "big bangs" happening out there? Where did it all come from? Why were those men with blue hands chasing River?

*head explodes*

The words "before the big bang" don't make any sense.

 

[HeroOfPellinor]

Originally posted by: GodlessAstronomer

Originally posted by: Zensal
It makes your brain hurt to think about these things.

What was before the big bang? Was it another universe like ours? What is beyond the reaches of where our universe has expanded/exploded out too? Are their other "big bangs" happening out there? Where did it all come from? Why were those men with blue hands chasing River?

*head explodes*

The words "before the big bang" don't make any sense.

Neither does the big bang theory, so it works, you know.

 

[Kadarin]

Topic Title: Big Bang - just admit we have no freaking idea

"We don't know yet" is a perfectly valid answer, you know. It's much better than "we don't know, so God must have done it" or "there are some things that science can't answer" because both of those answers make assumptions that aren't necessarily true.

 

[StageLeft]

There is a gap in our understanding at the first TINY fraction of a second due to the lack of a unified theory, and there is some friendly scientific controversy in areas such as supersymmetry and inflationary universe theory, but in general our understanding of big bang is damn solid.

So what created all that mass, what came before it or did it just magically appear?

The words "before the big bang" don't make any sense.

In science something precedes everything. Everything is cause and effect, so of course it makes sense--if you want to define it in a scientific manner. If you say nothing came before it you're tacitly stating that science cannot explain it within its own rules.

 

[GodlessAstronomer]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

There is a gap in our understanding at the first TINY fraction of a second due to the lack of a unified theory, and there is some friendly scientific controversy in areas such as supersymmetry and inflationary universe theory, but in general our understanding of big bang is damn solid.

So what created all that mass, what came before it or did it just magically appear?

The words "before the big bang" don't make any sense.

In science something precedes everything. Everything is cause and effect, so of course it makes sense--if you want to define it in a scientific manner. If you say nothing came before it you're tacitly stating that science cannot explain it within its own rules.

Time as a construct did not exist until the big bang. Like every other dimension, time was squished down to a single point. To use the age old analogy, grab a globe and follow a logitude line northwards. This represents traveling in the time dimension. Now move your finger along the line until you reach the north pole. Can you continue to move north? What's north of the north pole? Similarly, let's run physics backwards in time until the big bang. In the same way, once we reach the moment when the universe inflated out to the dimensions we live in, it makes no sense to continue moving backwards. It's a flawed concept, a flaw in our intuitive understanding of time.

 

[Jeff7]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

The words "before the big bang" don't make any sense.

In science something precedes everything. Everything is cause and effect, so of course it makes sense--if you want to define it in a scientific manner. If you say nothing came before it you're tacitly stating that science cannot explain it within its own rules.

In science based in a universe where time exists, yes, causality can exist and be defined.
If time also resulted from the Big Bang, you can't have a "before," at least not as we would define it, hence asking "what came before the Big Bang?" is a nonsensical question. You might as well travel to Flatland and ask the nearest denizen to point "up".


Edit: Drat, beaten to the punch.