Big mouth gets Hum-diddly-pwned by 3 fat chicks

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mugs

And I'm sure if it was the other way around with two large men following a woman around trying to instigate a fight and she pushed one of them away before trying to run away, you would take the guys' side, right?

Looking at the video, you see he really didn't even try to run away. He pushed her, and then he slowly walks around and then darts when he sees her lunge.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mugs

And I'm sure if it was the other way around with two large men following a woman around trying to instigate a fight and she pushed one of them away before trying to run away, you would take the guys' side, right?

Looking at the video, you see he really didn't even try to run away. He pushed her, and then he slowly walks around and then darts when he sees her lunge.

Nice dodge of the question. Reverse the sexes and see if you still agree. Should a woman pursued by three men and blocked from running be arrested?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mugs

And I'm sure if it was the other way around with two large men following a woman around trying to instigate a fight and she pushed one of them away before trying to run away, you would take the guys' side, right?

Looking at the video, you see he really didn't even try to run away. He pushed her, and then he slowly walks around and then darts when he sees her lunge.

Nice dodge of the question. Reverse the sexes and see if you still agree. Should a woman pursued by three men and blocked from running be arrested?

If she shoved the guys first? Absolutely. Also, it was only two women, not three at first. On top of that, if the guy simply turned around and walked away, it would've been settled. He was not blocked from running. If he goes away from the camera, the guy has a clear path to retreat.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mugs

And I'm sure if it was the other way around with two large men following a woman around trying to instigate a fight and she pushed one of them away before trying to run away, you would take the guys' side, right?

Looking at the video, you see he really didn't even try to run away. He pushed her, and then he slowly walks around and then darts when he sees her lunge.

Nice dodge of the question. Reverse the sexes and see if you still agree. Should a woman pursued by three men and blocked from running be arrested?

If she shoved the guys first? Absolutely. Also, it was only two women, not three at first. On top of that, if the guy simply turned around and walked away, it would've been settled. He was not blocked from running. If he goes away from the camera, the guy has a clear path to retreat.

he tried. he kept backing up and such. hell once he even tried walking around her.

also when he shoved her it sure looked like he shoved and tried to run around her to me.

there is no reason why all 4 of them were not arrested. they were the aggresors and escalated it. granted he did touch her first/

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mugs

And I'm sure if it was the other way around with two large men following a woman around trying to instigate a fight and she pushed one of them away before trying to run away, you would take the guys' side, right?

Looking at the video, you see he really didn't even try to run away. He pushed her, and then he slowly walks around and then darts when he sees her lunge.

Nice dodge of the question. Reverse the sexes and see if you still agree. Should a woman pursued by three men and blocked from running be arrested?

If she shoved the guys first? Absolutely. Also, it was only two women, not three at first. On top of that, if the guy simply turned around and walked away, it would've been settled. He was not blocked from running. If he goes away from the camera, the guy has a clear path to retreat.

he tried. he kept backing up and such. hell once he even tried walking around her.

also when he shoved her it sure looked like he shoved and tried to run around her to me.

there is no reason why all 4 of them were not arrested. they were the aggresors and escalated it. granted he did touch her first/

He was arrested for instigating it. It's actually rather common for this to happen. At a couple of bar fights in my hometown that I've witnessed, this is exactly what happened.

 

[sixone]

Originally posted by: DAGTA
In this video, the three women returned to a limo. This didn't appear to be a case of an abusive relationship. It appears to be women getting out of a limo to beat a guy that was mouthy on the street.

So, it's ok with you if three guys get out of cars to beat any woman that is mouthy on the street?

She hit him once, and he kept flapping his gums. He didn't have any reason to think she wouldn't hit him again, and he didn't shut up or get out. When they met is totally irrelevant.

 

[Akhen]

winnarsx100

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: DAGTA
In this video, the three women returned to a limo. This didn't appear to be a case of an abusive relationship. It appears to be women getting out of a limo to beat a guy that was mouthy on the street.

So, it's ok with you if three guys get out of cars to beat any woman that is mouthy on the street?

She hit him once, and he kept flapping his gums. He didn't have any reason to think she wouldn't hit him again, and he didn't shut up or get out. When they met is totally irrelevant.

so he kept flappign his gums. that does not give this heafer the right to strike him. NO MATTER WHAT HE SAID. this bitch should have been arrested.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: DAGTA
In this video, the three women returned to a limo. This didn't appear to be a case of an abusive relationship. It appears to be women getting out of a limo to beat a guy that was mouthy on the street.

So, it's ok with you if three guys get out of cars to beat any woman that is mouthy on the street?

She hit him once, and he kept flapping his gums. He didn't have any reason to think she wouldn't hit him again, and he didn't shut up or get out. When they met is totally irrelevant.

So it's ok for me to hit a woman once, and if she keeps flapping her gums and doesn't run, I can keep on hitting her? Will you back me up in court on this?

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: DAGTA
In this video, the three women returned to a limo. This didn't appear to be a case of an abusive relationship. It appears to be women getting out of a limo to beat a guy that was mouthy on the street.

So, it's ok with you if three guys get out of cars to beat any woman that is mouthy on the street?

She hit him once, and he kept flapping his gums. He didn't have any reason to think she wouldn't hit him again, and he didn't shut up or get out. When they met is totally irrelevant.

so he kept flappign his gums. that does not give this heafer the right to strike him. NO MATTER WHAT HE SAID. this bitch should have been arrested.

And just because they're walking toward him to try to intimidate him into leaving doesn't give this guy a reason to shove her, which started the fight.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: DAGTA
In this video, the three women returned to a limo. This didn't appear to be a case of an abusive relationship. It appears to be women getting out of a limo to beat a guy that was mouthy on the street.

So, it's ok with you if three guys get out of cars to beat any woman that is mouthy on the street?

She hit him once, and he kept flapping his gums. He didn't have any reason to think she wouldn't hit him again, and he didn't shut up or get out. When they met is totally irrelevant.

So it's ok for me to hit a woman once, and if she keeps flapping her gums and doesn't run, I can keep on hitting her? Will you back me up in court on this?

Basically what I'm hearing here is this:

Women believe it's ok for women to hit men if the men say something they don't like ,but it's not ok for a man to ever hit a woman.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: DAGTA
In this video, the three women returned to a limo. This didn't appear to be a case of an abusive relationship. It appears to be women getting out of a limo to beat a guy that was mouthy on the street.

So, it's ok with you if three guys get out of cars to beat any woman that is mouthy on the street?

She hit him once, and he kept flapping his gums. He didn't have any reason to think she wouldn't hit him again, and he didn't shut up or get out. When they met is totally irrelevant.

So it's ok for me to hit a woman once, and if she keeps flapping her gums and doesn't run, I can keep on hitting her? Will you back me up in court on this?

If she strikes you first and starts a fight where it's pretty even, I sure as hell would.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: DAGTA
In this video, the three women returned to a limo. This didn't appear to be a case of an abusive relationship. It appears to be women getting out of a limo to beat a guy that was mouthy on the street.

So, it's ok with you if three guys get out of cars to beat any woman that is mouthy on the street?

She hit him once, and he kept flapping his gums. He didn't have any reason to think she wouldn't hit him again, and he didn't shut up or get out. When they met is totally irrelevant.

so he kept flappign his gums. that does not give this heafer the right to strike him. NO MATTER WHAT HE SAID. this bitch should have been arrested.

And just because they're walking toward him to try to intimidate him into leaving doesn't give this guy a reason to shove her, which started the fight.

100% correct.

but as video shows he was backing up. trying to avoid the situation. granted he could have turned around and ran and t he heifer wouldn't be able to do anything. hell first Fast food restaurant he passes she would lose interest.

All 4 should have been arrested. the guy for shoving her and the 3 heifers for hitting.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: DAGTA
In this video, the three women returned to a limo. This didn't appear to be a case of an abusive relationship. It appears to be women getting out of a limo to beat a guy that was mouthy on the street.

So, it's ok with you if three guys get out of cars to beat any woman that is mouthy on the street?

She hit him once, and he kept flapping his gums. He didn't have any reason to think she wouldn't hit him again, and he didn't shut up or get out. When they met is totally irrelevant.

So it's ok for me to hit a woman once, and if she keeps flapping her gums and doesn't run, I can keep on hitting her? Will you back me up in court on this?

If she strikes you first and starts a fight where it's pretty even, I sure as hell would.

Guess who will get arrested and get either an assault or a domestic violence charge?

Hint: it won't be any person that lacks a penis.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: DAGTA

Originally posted by: sixone

Originally posted by: DAGTA
In this video, the three women returned to a limo. This didn't appear to be a case of an abusive relationship. It appears to be women getting out of a limo to beat a guy that was mouthy on the street.

So, it's ok with you if three guys get out of cars to beat any woman that is mouthy on the street?

She hit him once, and he kept flapping his gums. He didn't have any reason to think she wouldn't hit him again, and he didn't shut up or get out. When they met is totally irrelevant.

So it's ok for me to hit a woman once, and if she keeps flapping her gums and doesn't run, I can keep on hitting her? Will you back me up in court on this?

If she strikes you first and starts a fight where it's pretty even, I sure as hell would.

Guess who will get arrested and get either an assault or a domestic violence charge?

Hint: it won't be any person that lacks a penis.

Which is something I stated in the past I highly disagree with and realize it's a huge double standard in the system. However, in this case, I really don't feel the man was arrested simply because he was a man.

 

[GiLtY]

It must've been mighty embarrassing to get decked by a 300-pound woman.
--GiLtY

 

[Beige]

lol...that must have hurt.

 

[quakefiend420]

Originally posted by: Amused
Nice double standard:

Guy beats girl, guy goes to jail.

Girl beats guy, guy STILL goes to jail.

The girls should be charged with assault.

my thoughts exactly

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: BigJ
If she shoved the guys first? Absolutely. Also, it was only two women, not three at first. On top of that, if the guy simply turned around and walked away, it would've been settled. He was not blocked from running. If he goes away from the camera, the guy has a clear path to retreat.

Yeah I'm sure. If it was a woman being pursued by guys, the argument would be that she had no choice.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many of them tried to avoid a confrontation? 1. The guy. He kept trying to walk away, she pursued him.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many got involved in an altercation that was already started? 2, the second and third fat chicks.

Of the 4 people on the video, who RAN and JUMPED on a guy who was already being pretty easily handled? 1, the fat chick.

The third fat chick should DEFINITELY have been arrested.

The second fat chick should have been arrested.

The first fat chick probably should have been arrested.

I'm on the fence about the guy.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: BigJ
If she shoved the guys first? Absolutely. Also, it was only two women, not three at first. On top of that, if the guy simply turned around and walked away, it would've been settled. He was not blocked from running. If he goes away from the camera, the guy has a clear path to retreat.

Yeah I'm sure. If it was a woman being pursued by guys, the argument would be that she had no choice.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many of them tried to avoid a confrontation? 1. The guy. He kept trying to walk away, she pursued him.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many got involved in an altercation that was already started? 2, the second and third fat chicks.

Of the 4 people on the video, who RAN and JUMPED on a guy who was already being pretty easily handled? 1, the fat chick.

The third fat chick should DEFINITELY have been arrested.

The second fat chick should have been arrested.

The first fat chick probably should have been arrested.

I'm on the fence about the guy.

he should have been arrested also. he did try to shove her granted i think it wa smore to try to get away.

All 4 should have been arrested.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: BigJ
If she shoved the guys first? Absolutely. Also, it was only two women, not three at first. On top of that, if the guy simply turned around and walked away, it would've been settled. He was not blocked from running. If he goes away from the camera, the guy has a clear path to retreat.

Yeah I'm sure. If it was a woman being pursued by guys, the argument would be that she had no choice.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many of them tried to avoid a confrontation? 1. The guy. He kept trying to walk away, she pursued him.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many got involved in an altercation that was already started? 2, the second and third fat chicks.

Of the 4 people on the video, who RAN and JUMPED on a guy who was already being pretty easily handled? 1, the fat chick.

The third fat chick should DEFINITELY have been arrested.

The second fat chick should have been arrested.

The first fat chick probably should have been arrested.

I'm on the fence about the guy.

If the guy wanted to avoid the confrontation, he could've. It's that simple. The guy kept hanging around the women at a distance and kept on spouting his crap. To me, that's not trying to avoid a confronation, that's try to escalate and provoke. At ANY time before the first shove, he could've walked away. Hell, if he walked a block the ladies probably would've been too winded to keep up with him.

The guy went after the 2nd fat chick too after he pushed the 1st fat chick. Once he did that, it's free reign for the 2nd fat chick to get involved.

The third fat chick is the only one I'm on the fence about. She saw her friend get caught by a hooking right from the guy and came in and bowled him over. Of the girls, she's the only one that comes close to assault. But hell, if two of my friends were holding onto a guy and one got a hell of a right from a much larger guy, I'd probably jump in there too to break it up.

In fights, depending on your jurisdiction is how they handle who gets arrested/ticketed. In some cases, the person who instigated it gets the charge. In others, everyone involved in the confrontation gets a ticket/charged.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: BigJ
If she shoved the guys first? Absolutely. Also, it was only two women, not three at first. On top of that, if the guy simply turned around and walked away, it would've been settled. He was not blocked from running. If he goes away from the camera, the guy has a clear path to retreat.

Yeah I'm sure. If it was a woman being pursued by guys, the argument would be that she had no choice.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many of them tried to avoid a confrontation? 1. The guy. He kept trying to walk away, she pursued him.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many got involved in an altercation that was already started? 2, the second and third fat chicks.

Of the 4 people on the video, who RAN and JUMPED on a guy who was already being pretty easily handled? 1, the fat chick.

The third fat chick should DEFINITELY have been arrested.

The second fat chick should have been arrested.

The first fat chick probably should have been arrested.

I'm on the fence about the guy.

he should have been arrested also. he did try to shove her granted i think it wa smore to try to get away.

All 4 should have been arrested.

I think I'd agree if I was sure he pushed her, but it's just not clear from the video. She blocked our view of him, and there was no obvious effects from the push. It looked like he faked the punch to try to scare her off, and he may have lunged to try to scare her off too... all we can see is that she pushes him.

 

[DAGTA]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: BigJ
If she shoved the guys first? Absolutely. Also, it was only two women, not three at first. On top of that, if the guy simply turned around and walked away, it would've been settled. He was not blocked from running. If he goes away from the camera, the guy has a clear path to retreat.

Yeah I'm sure. If it was a woman being pursued by guys, the argument would be that she had no choice.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many of them tried to avoid a confrontation? 1. The guy. He kept trying to walk away, she pursued him.

Of the 4 people on the video, how many got involved in an altercation that was already started? 2, the second and third fat chicks.

Of the 4 people on the video, who RAN and JUMPED on a guy who was already being pretty easily handled? 1, the fat chick.

The third fat chick should DEFINITELY have been arrested.

The second fat chick should have been arrested.

The first fat chick probably should have been arrested.

I'm on the fence about the guy.

If the guy wanted to avoid the confrontation, he could've. It's that simple. The guy kept hanging around the women at a distance and kept on spouting his crap. To me, that's not trying to avoid a confronation, that's try to escalate and provoke. At ANY time before the first shove, he could've walked away. Hell, if he walked a block the ladies probably would've been too winded to keep up with him.

The guy went after the 2nd fat chick too after he pushed the 1st fat chick. Once he did that, it's free reign for the 2nd fat chick to get involved.

The third fat chick is the only one I'm on the fence about. She saw her friend get caught by a hooking right from the guy and came in and bowled him over. Of the girls, she's the only one that comes close to assault. But hell, if two of my friends were holding onto a guy and one got a hell of a right from a much larger guy, I'd probably jump in there too to break it up.

In fights, depending on your jurisdiction is how they handle who gets arrested/ticketed. In some cases, the person who instigated it gets the charge. In others, everyone involved in the confrontation gets a ticket/charged.

But, it's not that way in this situation because there is bias on the sexes. Substituting a woman in for the guy and men in for the women would completely change the situation. The excuse that, 'she could have gotten away anytime she liked' would not justify three men beating on her.

As for the third woman running, she was trying to land with her knee in his crotch.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: mugs

I think I'd agree if I was sure he pushed her, but it's just not clear from the video. She blocked our view of him, and there was no obvious effects from the push. It looked like he faked the punch to try to scare her off, and he may have lunged to try to scare her off too... all we can see is that she pushes him.

Mugs, concentrate on the guy, not the fat chick. You can see he impacts her and she goes to push his hands away as he makes contact with her. You can see the push if you look for it.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: DAGTA

But, it's not that way in this situation because there is bias on the sexes. Substituting a woman in for the guy and men in for the women would completely change the situation. The excuse that, 'she could have gotten away anytime she liked' would not justify three men beating on her.

As for the third woman running, she was trying to land with her knee in his crotch.

It's all about the amount of force. 2 large guys versus a small woman is going to be a much more unfair fight than 2 fat women and a kid who looks in relatively decent shape.

The strenght of two large guys would've been easily able to handle all 4 of the people in the video, let alone a small chick.

Also, the fact that he could've gotten away but continued to stick around can play greatly in certain cases.

If a person starts a fight and makes a "college try" to leave the area and people keep on persuing him, they can be charged with assault. But if they stay around when the situation could've been diffused, they're still a part of the fight.