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A suspicious stat that seems intentionally vague that's thoroughly unrelated to this event.
I'm surprized there wasn't some kind of barrier(s). Seems like the only barrier was a portable fence.
I may be wrong, someone please correct me if I am.
That's going to be a major new security feature / requirement for all public street / roadside gatherings.
Hell, any pubic event in a park or open /flat area.
Trying to get you guys to realize you're doing it wrong.
French president : "Following this, we will show real force and military action in Syria and Iraq."
What actions have I taken to support ISIS like groups? blah blah blah
If you supported Cheney's grand adventure in Iraq, approved of the use of torture, and still speak to justify and defend an administration's agenda that created ISIS at Camp Bucca, then congrats - you helped the powers that be create ISIS. Not a focal role obviously, not intentionally, and nothing bearing responsibility of course, but it's enough to make your sanctimonious talking down to these dreaded "leftists" sound even more pathetic than normal for your kind.
If you supported Cheney's grand adventure in Iraq, approved of the use of torture, and still speak to justify and defend an administration's agenda that created ISIS at Camp Bucca, then congrats - you helped the powers that be create ISIS. Not a focal role obviously, not intentionally, and nothing bearing responsibility of course, but it's enough to make your sanctimonious talking down to these dreaded "leftists" sound even more pathetic than normal for your kind.
Our current administration preserved the use of extraordinary rendition, we just make sure that the countries that we send the unpersons to pinky promise not to torture them. It's basically exactly the same as the old bad policy with a few rhetorical changes for optics.
What is it exactly that you think your doing about anything?
Is that really true? I certainly hope you are incorrect.
Under executive orders issued by Obama recently, the CIA still has authority to carry out what are known as renditions, secret abductions and transfers of prisoners to countries that cooperate with the United States.
Most of the torture treaty contains no geographic limitations. But its ban on cruel, inhuman or degrading treatment that falls short of torture is one of several provisions that apply to a states conduct in any territory under its jurisdiction. That phrase is ambiguous, and the administration of President George W. Bush took the view that the ban did not apply beyond domestic soil.
The Obama administration, after an internal debate that has drawn global scrutiny, is taking the view that the cruelty ban applies wherever the United States exercises governmental authority, according to officials familiar with the deliberations. That definition, they said, includes the military prison at Guantánamo Bay, Cuba, and American-flagged ships and aircraft in international waters and airspace.
But the administrations definition still appears to exclude places like the former black site prisons where the C.I.A. tortured terrorism suspects during the Bush years, as well as American military detention camps in Afghanistan and Iraq during the wars there. Those prisons were on the sovereign territory of other governments; the government of Cuba exercises no control over Guantánamo.
and we will accept more refugees in the country???
ISLAM AND WEST is not compatible
the sooner the west realize it the better
go to saudi arabia and see how peaceful and tolerant is the muslims to non muslims
you are not allowed to take your bible inside saudi arabia because you may try to spread Christianity in the country lol
your bible is but in an envelope and sealed and also is documented that you have one, when you live the country they check if you open the sealed and if you do then god have mercy on you
thats how tolerant they are
and this was from a friend of mine working as a truck driver
you can not be tolerant with the intolerant
pain and simple everything else is suicide
as for the leftist that think i am wrong please go to saudi Arabia for a week
and if you have the same ideas after you return we can have a discussion based on reality not fantasy
I have a better idea, how about you wrap your head around the fact that the muslim world is more than Sa'udi Arabia, and that the vast majority of muslims on this planet are not Wahabi. Are you aware that Qatar is a Wahabi state as well? That you can take your bible there, that they have a christian church in Doha? This may shock you but not every muslim country has a their own version of the Mutawa'een. I lived in Qatar for years and was always treated with respect and hospitality. A far cry from my years among the hyper-religious evangelicals in the Bible Belt, and I'm an American from a WASP background!
Yeah those Iraqis have sure done a number on Detroit. Cleaning the place up, opening businesses, sending their kids to secular or christian schools...cats and dogs, living together. Chaos!
In June 2014, a Muslim expatriate was sentenced to 40 lashes for consuming alcohol and driving under the influence. Judicial corporal punishment is common in Qatar due to the Hanbali interpretation of Sharia Law. Stoning is a legal punishment in Qatar. Apostasy is a crime punishable by the death penalty in Qatar.
Sharia law is the main source of Qatari legislation according to Qatar's Constitution.[96][97] In practice, Qatar's legal system is a mixture of civil law and Sharia law.[98][99] Sharia law is applied to laws pertaining to family law, inheritance, and several criminal acts (including adultery, robbery and murder). In some cases in Sharia-based family courts, a female's testimony is worth half a man's.[100] Codified family law was introduced in 2006. Islamic polygamy is allowed in the country.[77]
More on Qatar from wikipedia:
Lets be clear here, their government is run by a nonexistent fairy in the sky and women are no more than chattel.
I am happy you were treated nice while living under a theocracy. However, as an atheist that is the last place I would want to live.
Possible confirmation attacker is jihadi... Police found papers of a French Tunisian, witnesses heard shouting "Allahu Akbar!"
I have a better idea, how about you wrap your head around the fact that the muslim world is more than Sa'udi Arabia, and that the vast majority of muslims on this planet are not Wahabi. Are you aware that Qatar is a Wahabi state as well? That you can take your bible there, that they have a christian church in Doha? This may shock you but not every muslim country has a their own version of the Mutawa'een. I lived in Qatar for years and was always treated with respect and hospitality. A far cry from my years among the hyper-religious evangelicals in the Bible Belt, and I'm an American from a WASP background!
Yeah those Iraqis have sure done a number on Detroit. Cleaning the place up, opening businesses, sending their kids to secular or christian schools...cats and dogs, living together. Chaos!
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/feb/01/nation/na-rendition1
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/13/us/us-to-revise-bush-policy-on-treatment-of-prisoners.html?_r=1
One of the very first reasons I haven't agreed with practically anything the man has done.
I have a better idea, how about you wrap your head around the fact that the muslim world is more than Sa'udi Arabia, and that the vast majority of muslims on this planet are not Wahabi. Are you aware that Qatar is a Wahabi state as well? That you can take your bible there, that they have a christian church in Doha? This may shock you but not every muslim country has a their own version of the Mutawa'een. I lived in Qatar for years and was always treated with respect and hospitality. A far cry from my years among the hyper-religious evangelicals in the Bible Belt, and I'm an American from a WASP background!
Yeah those Iraqis have sure done a number on Detroit. Cleaning the place up, opening businesses, sending their kids to secular or christian schools...cats and dogs, living together. Chaos!
Our current administration preserved the use of extraordinary rendition, we just make sure that the countries that we send the unpersons to pinky promise not to torture them. It's basically exactly the same as the old bad policy with a few rhetorical changes for optics.
I like how posters like you get frothy and indignant about an entire group of people, lumping a variety of viewpoints into one group for easier bashing, but when you are referred to in the same manner, well shit cue the butthurt and outrage.
If you supported Cheney's grand adventure in Iraq, approved of the use of torture, and still speak to justify and defend an administration's agenda that created ISIS at Camp Bucca, then congrats - you helped the powers that be create ISIS. Not a focal role obviously, not intentionally, and nothing bearing responsibility of course, but it's enough to make your sanctimonious talking down to these dreaded "leftists" sound even more pathetic than normal for your kind.
In case you missed it, you guys have a track record on being correct that hardly inspires confidence. If that's a problem for you, maybe it's time to re-evaluate your views.
Alive,
A lot of your opinion is being lost in translation. I can sort of see what you are trying to say but it is really difficult due to the language barrier. I take it English is not your first language?
I have a better idea, how about you wrap your head around the fact that the muslim world is more than Sa'udi Arabia, and that the vast majority of muslims on this planet are not Wahabi. Are you aware that Qatar is a Wahabi state as well? That you can take your bible there, that they have a christian church in Doha? This may shock you but not every muslim country has a their own version of the Mutawa'een. I lived in Qatar for years and was always treated with respect and hospitality. A far cry from my years among the hyper-religious evangelicals in the Bible Belt, and I'm an American from a WASP background!
Yeah those Iraqis have sure done a number on Detroit. Cleaning the place up, opening businesses, sending their kids to secular or christian schools...cats and dogs, living together. Chaos!