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K1052

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yes deny the elephant in the room
if it looks like a duck , it goes quack it MUST BE A DUCK

how many people must die before everyone realize that ISLAM IS THE PROBLEM

ISLAM and west can not mix plain and simple

and you know what the poor refugee say for the german
yes the poor refugee that live on welfare
do they say thank you germany for the support??
NO
they say they are disgusted by the german people because they eat pork lol
they are disgust because of all that pork sold in the streets


feed the snake during the winter to bite you in the summer

Speaking of deranged people...
 

ALIVE

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That is really important actually. Aren't these attacks almost exclusively 1st or 2nd generation Islamic immigrants? I have never heard of one of these attacks being done by a fully westernized muslim. My daughters best friend is a fully westernized secular muslim. I think she is representative of the vast majority of Muslims that live in America. I believe the problems are coming from people who recently immigrated from Islamic shitholes (or their children). From what I understand, every single muslim terror attack in America came from that source.

there was a difference in muslims in usa because they were isolated from the middle east
now that you have priests from iran talking in usa how a normal muslim needs to behave

geee in orlando in their mosque they talked that the penalty of death for homosexuality is death and they do it for compassion

the muslim community in usa will never be the same as it used to be
 

Jaskalas

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there was a difference in muslims in usa because they were isolated from the middle east
now that you have priests from iran talking in usa how a normal muslim needs to behave

geee in orlando in their mosque they talked that the penalty of death for homosexuality is death and they do it for compassion

the muslim community in usa will never be the same as it used to be

That is the power of the internet. Extremism is a cancerous contagion, and today it can spread like wildfire. Groups that spent years assimilating, and are truly innocent, are the first to suffer Middle East connections.
 

ALIVE

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I don't agree with sending them back. On the other hand, I would be very wary of letting in Islamic fundamentalists from failed and violent shitholes. The values they bring in tend not to be compatible with Western secularism.

there is no fundamentalist in islam
islam is so intolerant you are either a believer or an infidel there is nothing between

islam has religion police!!!!!!
yes RELIGION POLICE that monitors the people in the daily life and if they do not behave accordingly thay are punished., it is in the dogma a true believer muslim if see another fellow muslim doing something wrong he need to report him or punish him, not doing either of that he is worse than the siner.

they have all the population spying the whole population. thats why they do not produce art and literature as in the west.

and what ISIS is doing in the areas that captures??? kills all the muslims that refuge to be as true as they are. THEY ARE INTOLERANT
first they target and cleanse their group from any variation and then they target the rest
 

bshole

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there was a difference in muslims in usa because they were isolated from the middle east
now that you have priests from iran talking in usa how a normal muslim needs to behave

geee in orlando in their mosque they talked that the penalty of death for homosexuality is death and they do it for compassion

the muslim community in usa will never be the same as it used to be

Not true as evidenced by daughter's best friend. The vast majority of muslims in America have friends of all kinds of faiths. There was a study done on it actually. Problems arise when all of your friends are of the same faith, which is common with the new Islamic immigrants from shithole countries. It is the exposure and acceptance/tolerance of other people with different worldviews that is critical.

For the record, I tolerate people of faith but I know that they are delusional. Generally I have the good taste not to state as much to them and they can still be my friend. I am not a good liberal. I am a Sam Harris liberal. Actually I am so divided on my beliefs that I wouldn't classify myself as anything. I have progressive ideas, I have conservative ideas. I am a very confused guy.
 

ALIVE

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That is the power of the internet. Extremism is a cancerous contagion, and today it can spread like wildfire. Groups that spent years assimilating, and are truly innocent, are the first to suffer Middle East connections.

there are the muslim that live in their countries and behave freely and say freely their beliefs

and there the muslims in non muslim countries obliged by their holy book to lie to the infidels to give them momentum

how can have a honest discussion with a group that its basis is to lie to you???
there can not be we sit around and talk our differences because they DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT

for a muslim either it will be his way or death
there can be no other way

when the holy book says to you to kill the infidels
to marry 9 year old girls and have sex with them
if you do that you are not an extremist you are a normal obedient one

apart form the killing
is it extremism for a muslim to marry a 9 year old girl or not???
 

Capt Caveman

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there are the muslim that live in their countries and behave freely and say freely their beliefs

and there the muslims in non muslim countries obliged by their holy book to lie to the infidels to give them momentum

how can have a honest discussion with a group that its basis is to lie to you???
there can not be we sit around and talk our differences because they DO NOT WANT TO DO THAT

for a muslim either it will be his way or death
there can be no other way

when the holy book says to you to kill the infidels
to marry 9 year old girls and have sex with them
if you do that you are not an extremist you are a normal obedient one

apart form the killing
is it extremism for a muslim to marry a 9 year old girl or not???

Love how you paint all Muslims with a single brush. You're incorrect. My Muslim friends are peaceful and have no hate unlike you.
 

HumblePie

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Horrible incident. My heart goes out to the victims as it always does in these incidents. While I wish there was someway to stop evil in the world completely, I know that there really isn't a way and vigilance is the only way to keep evil deeds from spreading.

Now I'll speak to the other issue being discussed in this thread. Many feel those talking about gun rights are being insensitive to the subject of the incident of this terrorist/mass murder attack. Unfortunately, the culture on these boards is why these comments come up. Every time a mass murder happens with a gun, those looking to instill harsher levels of gun control, or outright bans of guns, come out of the woodwork with posts about their values on gun control. When invariably someone protecting the rights of gun owners points out that banning guns doesn't make the evil go away and that those seeking to do harm will use another method even if somehow magically guns disappeared, such ideas are scoffed at by those seeking gun control. Yet here we have a prime example of a mass murderer/terrorist using another method to carry out evil. The point being the root of the problem isn't the tool used to commit the evil deed, but the person behind it. Invariably it is the motivation of the person committing the deed that is the true source of evil. Removing all potential motivations for evil is never going to be feasible, but looking to remove some of them is a far better effort than trying to remove potential tools that evil doers will seek out to inflict their deeds.

While incidents like this is truly atrocious, and I hope it will never happen again, I unfortunately know it will. Evil isn't going away. I just hope this incident serves as a wake up call to people that there is evil out there in the world and there are better ways of controlling it than what some have been proposing in the past.
 

0roo0roo

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What the hell does it have to do with "The Left" to begin with.

If one sincerely believed everything the left claimed about the west, how racist, how illegitimate, how stolen the land, colonialist crimes, the oppression and global manipulations causing untold suffering, its not hard at all to see how a muslim would find it rather easy to rationalize such actions when combined with their own beliefs.

A good half of us are now "hitler" surely we deserve to die.


and really, what does it have to do with the left...
Clinton to Resettle One Million Muslim Migrants During First Term Alone
http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presi...one-million-muslim-migrants-first-term-alone/

Paul Ryan calls on Obama to reverse decision to censor Orlando shooter's 911 calls
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/paul-ry...ecision-to-censor-orlando-shooters-911-calls/
 

ALIVE

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Not true as evidenced by daughter's best friend. The vast majority of muslims in America have friends of all kinds of faiths. There was a study done on it actually. Problems arise when all of your friends are of the same faith, which is common with the new Islamic immigrants from shithole countries. It is the exposure and acceptance/tolerance of other people with different worldviews that is critical.

For the record, I tolerate people of faith but I know that they are delusional. Generally I have the good taste not to state as much to them and they can still be my friend. I am not a good liberal. I am a Sam Harris liberal. Actually I am so divided on my beliefs that I wouldn't classify myself as anything. I have progressive ideas, I have conservative ideas. I am a very confused guy.

no you are normal
you can not agree with everything
not everything liberals say is good
they are not gods
not everything conservatives say is bad
they are not the devil

the problem is if all people are the same faith LOL LOL
how idiotic is this statement?????

so the hindu in usa that prefer to be around with other hindu and preferably the same religion they blow themselves up because of that??

lets check the country india
no terrorism and all are hindu religion
lets check china
is Confucian tao Buddhist
no terrorism
lets check western countries
islam aspects of the society is the terrorist fuel of today

so the problem is not if my friends is all the same faith
the problem is ISLAM ISLAM ISLAM
usa has many minorities
the chinese they isolate themselves into china towns do they go out killing no chinese in terror attacks???
 

ALIVE

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Love how you paint all Muslims with a single brush. You're incorrect. My Muslim friends are peaceful and have no hate unlike you.

and i had a muslim friend
and he said to me
when the time comes and we take control
you will be the first to be slain

at least he told the truth
how unmuslim of him
 

0roo0roo

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and since people have short memories


Where is she?

It's been a month...

But yea, tell me about the NRA again...
 

ALIVE

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Love how you paint all Muslims with a single brush. You're incorrect. My Muslim friends are peaceful and have no hate unlike you.

and how muslim paint the world??
there are 2 categories of people
the believers of the book and the non believers

and what are the rights for the non believers??? a choice convert to islam or be executed

and for the fun of it
believer of the book is the believer of the bilbe so chirstians and jews are not be forced to change religion

but according to the koran all muslims must work towards the caliphate
which is 1 country in the whole world

so the fight the jew not because they are jew in religion but because they have a jewish country, the jews will be spared and will be allowed to live inside the caliphate as the christians

i pant them black and white??
and how they paint us????

if i am guilty of that they are also
it can not be i am guilty of intolerance and they are free to be intolerant
 

ultimatebob

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Time to ban guns and semis (specifically high capacity assault trucks) in France. That'll stop this.

That's a pretty "assholeish" comment, but this is a good reminder of the kind of domestic terrorist attacks we're going to see in the US if Clinton somehow actually gets "assault weapons" outlawed.
 
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you can not force opposite to be together
MULTICULTURALISM IS NOT WORKING
remove islam from west
sent all muslims to islamic countries
they will be happier there than the immoral west

first they beg to come to this immoral place
and then they start complaining how bad it is
WHY THE FUCK THEY COME HERE THE FIRST PLACE

if they do not like the west go the fuck back

its simple
the west is for people that they like the western civilization
if they do not embrace the values they can go back into their caves into their countries

this type of thinking has been the ugly underbelly of the US for a very long time. If it wasn't Chinese, it was the Irish, if it wasn't the Irish, it was the Italians, if it wasn't the Italians it was the Jews, if it wasn't the Jews it was the Catholics.










There will always be another culture to blame, and yes, isis is an evil that needs to be purged, but with 1.6 billion muslims in the world, the ratio of islamic extremists to peaceful muslim worshipers is pretty fucking small. but keep on raging, drumpf has your back.
 

Subyman

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and i had a muslim friend
and he said to me
when the time comes and we take control
you will be the first to be slain

at least he told the truth
how unmuslim of him

You gotta be pretty messed up to have abusive imaginary friends.
 

LegendKiller

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this type of thinking has been the ugly underbelly of the US for a very long time. If it wasn't Chinese, it was the Irish, if it wasn't the Irish, it was the Italians, if it wasn't the Italians it was the Jews, if it wasn't the Jews it was the Catholics.










There will always be another culture to blame, and yes, isis is an evil that needs to be purged, but with 1.6 billion muslims in the world, the ratio of islamic extremists to peaceful muslim worshipers is pretty fucking small. but keep on raging, drumpf has your back.
Ohh, so it's not gun owners or cops then, is it? Thanks for clarifying that extremists like yourself love to persecute groups of people for no reason. You must agree otherwise you are a hypocrite, correct?

24 hours after Orlando you dropped your slactivism facade and showed the world your true hypocrisy.
 

ALIVE

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That's a pretty "assholeish" comment, but this is a good reminder of the kind of domestic terrorist attacks we're going to see in the US if Clinton somehow actually gets "assault weapons" outlawed.

even if assault weapons is baned in usa
what makes you think the terrorist will not get a hand of them???

which all this muslim countries in the world even if it extremely expensive and with low success rate lets say 99% intercept by borders patrols
still there will be guns and bombs smuggled in to the terrorist

gee you can not stop drugs entering the country
you can not control borders for entering civilians in great numbers
and you fantasize gun control!?!??!?!?
KEEP DREAMING
 
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Ohh, so it's not gun owners or cops then, is it? Thanks for clarifying that extremists like yourself love to persecute groups of people for no reason. You must agree otherwise you are a hypocrite, correct?

24 hours after Orlando you dropped your slactivism facade and showed the world your true hypocrisy.

not even close dingus. you have become unhinged, seek help.
 

Capt Caveman

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and how muslim paint the world??
there are 2 categories of people
the believers of the book and the non believers

and what are the rights for the non believers??? a choice convert to islam or be executed

and for the fun of it
believer of the book is the believer of the bilbe so chirstians and jews are not be forced to change religion

but according to the koran all muslims must work towards the caliphate
which is 1 country in the whole world

so the fight the jew not because they are jew in religion but because they have a jewish country, the jews will be spared and will be allowed to live inside the caliphate as the christians

i pant them black and white??
and how they paint us????

if i am guilty of that they are also
it can not be i am guilty of intolerance and they are free to be intolerant

You're an idiot. Not everyone follows their religion by every word and the fact that you only paint Muslims this way shows your ignorance and hatred.

And yes, there are Christians that have killed b/c of their faith. Google violence at abortion clinics.

Oh, and Christians don't behead others?

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/30/w...eheaded-in-central-african-republic.html?_r=0
 
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