you agree that every single one of us who is opposed to illegal immigration is a racist and a biggot?
wow.
you agree that every single one of us who is opposed to illegal immigration is a racist and a biggot?Originally posted by: nergee
Steeplerot.....don't label all conservatives as those against the poor. My views tend
to lean on the conservative side but I do agree with you on this subject 100%.
Originally posted by: nergee
Steeplerot.....don't label all conservatives as those against the poor. My views tend
to lean on the conservative side but I do agree with you on this subject 100%.
Originally posted by: nergee
Steeplerot.....don't label all conservatives as those against the poor. My views tend
to lean on the conservative side but I do agree with you on this subject 100%.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: nergee
Steeplerot.....don't label all conservatives as those against the poor. My views tend
to lean on the conservative side but I do agree with you on this subject 100%.
Yes, let's help the poor people of this country out by importing more poor, uneducated people.
You two are absolutley brillant visonaries.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
you agree that every single one of us who is opposed to illegal immigration is a racist and a biggot?Originally posted by: nergee
Steeplerot.....don't label all conservatives as those against the poor. My views tend
to lean on the conservative side but I do agree with you on this subject 100%.
wow.
Current studies insicate that untaxed remittance cash accounts for an average of 10% of the GDP in all Central-American countries. according to you, that is "nothing"?!Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74
umm, they're not paying taxes! that's half of the problem right there!Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
The more labor we let into this country, the cheaper people will have to work.
Simple economics say this is not true as they pay more taxes and produce more product bringing more money to the economy.
Last year alone (2005), Mexicans sent $18 billion is un-taxed cash back to their families in Mexico. (source: current issue of Scientific American)
They do pay taxes and get NO returns. Some don't but every mexican worker I have ever known uses a SS card which is the easiest thing to counterfit, more BS.
Then add in how much we rape from mexico with NAFTA and that suppossed 18 billion is nothing.
Keep buying the BS to justify your pathetic little conservative crusade against the poor.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Current studies insicate that untaxed remittance cash accounts for an average of 10% of the GDP in all Central-American countries. according to you, that is "nothing"?!Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74
umm, they're not paying taxes! that's half of the problem right there!Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
The more labor we let into this country, the cheaper people will have to work.
Simple economics say this is not true as they pay more taxes and produce more product bringing more money to the economy.
Last year alone (2005), Mexicans sent $18 billion is un-taxed cash back to their families in Mexico. (source: current issue of Scientific American)
They do pay taxes and get NO returns. Some don't but every mexican worker I have ever known uses a SS card which is the easiest thing to counterfit, more BS.
Then add in how much we rape from mexico with NAFTA and that suppossed 18 billion is nothing.
Keep buying the BS to justify your pathetic little conservative crusade against the poor.
this has nothing to do with a "crusade against the poor," and everything to do with protecting American interests and finances.
consider this:
"A study by the Federation for American Immigration Reform estimated that in 2004 the annual uncompensated cost of medical care for illegal immigrants in California was $1.4 billion. Total uncompensated educational, health care and incarceration costs were estimated to be 10.5 billion."
im not "against the poor," rather, I am for protecting the economic well-being of legal citizens!
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is you who keeps making these assinine accusations.Originally posted by: palehorse74
you agree that every single one of us who is opposed to illegal immigration is a racist and a biggot?Originally posted by: nergee
Steeplerot.....don't label all conservatives as those against the poor. My views tend
to lean on the conservative side but I do agree with you on this subject 100%.
wow.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is you who keeps making these assinine accusations.Originally posted by: palehorse74
you agree that every single one of us who is opposed to illegal immigration is a racist and a biggot?Originally posted by: nergee
Steeplerot.....don't label all conservatives as those against the poor. My views tend
to lean on the conservative side but I do agree with you on this subject 100%.
wow.
ummm, what?! I could probably point to 40 posts in this thread alone wherein YOU label everyone who is opposed to you a racist or a biggot. You have repeatedly done so in every immigration thread!
hello? are you paying attention? wow... talk about lost!
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
If you cannot contribute go whine about tinfoil in a iraq thread ok? You are the one making broad assumptions of what I am saying becasue you do not grasp the big picture.
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is you who keeps making these assinine accusations.Originally posted by: palehorse74
you agree that every single one of us who is opposed to illegal immigration is a racist and a biggot?Originally posted by: nergee
Steeplerot.....don't label all conservatives as those against the poor. My views tend
to lean on the conservative side but I do agree with you on this subject 100%.
wow.
ummm, what?! I could probably point to 40 posts in this thread alone wherein YOU label everyone who is opposed to you a racist or a biggot. You have repeatedly done so in every immigration thread!
hello? are you paying attention? wow... talk about lost!
If you cannot contribute go whine about tinfoil in a iraq thread ok? You are the one making broad assumptions of what I am saying becasue you do not grasp the big picture.
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Well, get the facts and stop being ignorant, your choice, and I am employed gainfully, thanks for your concern over my finances but I can take care of my own.Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Still preaching your racist bullcrap I see. Why don't you go get a job or do something otherwise constructive instead of slandering everybody who disagrees with you?
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I don't want to learn Spanish. What is my incentive to do so? Even if I did, it wouldn't change my opinion about illegals coming into the US.
Are you going to pay me to learn it? Shall I learn Chinese and Japanese too?
You are not forced to go to college either, but it is a big advantage the future of america is bilingual resist it all you want but you are the one impeding yourself.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Now the people coming into the US, an English speaking country have an incentive to learn English, or at least you would think they would.
We are not a "english speaking country" nor have we ever been, getting close to half and rising are spanish, soon to be the majority. the days of a white english speaking ruled country are done, kick and scream all you want it just makes you look like a bigot.
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Or are you saying they're not smart enough to learn English? Now that would be racist.
No, they are either too bigoted or lazy to think ahead or they think they are too good to educate themselves as the rest of the world and *gasp* learn another language. Trust me noone feels sorry for you, the rest of the world educates themselves in languages.
There are even studies that have shown bilingual people grow up to be smarter.
It is not americans fault alone though, we have a racist system set up that looks down on any other culture and language then our own, hence the big USA #1 complex we have, its just an extension of the whites racism issues we have had since day 1. Americas history is littered with white racial dominace over others. Our own history is against us here.
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
From here on out, ANYONE who plays the race card needs to dig up some facts before they start spewing crap out of their mouth.
I'm willing to bet most of the people who think it's WONDERFUL that we're marching our country toward 3rd worldism one million people a year.
Does anybody know what assimilating is? Does everyone here realize that since illegal immigrants are entitled to welfare EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD CAN COME HERE AND GET FREE MONEY!?!!
Explain why this is a good thing.
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
From here on out, ANYONE who plays the race card needs to dig up some facts before they start spewing crap out of their mouth.
I'm willing to bet most of the people who think it's WONDERFUL that we're marching our country toward 3rd worldism one million people a year.
Does anybody know what assimilating is? Does everyone here realize that since illegal immigrants are entitled to welfare EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD CAN COME HERE AND GET FREE MONEY!?!!
Explain why this is a good thing.
Then end welfare. It's pretty much done as is so I don't know what you're talking about. You can only be on welfare two years before they boot you and only if you have no job, no nothing. I've never seen a welfare person proabably because there are hardly any. Progam is less than 1% of federal budget.
Originally posted by: CaptnKirk
Red Neck States Not Even Near Mexico Unite!
Paranoid Klan Mentality Sweeps Nation !
Biggots flock in mass to seal Tennesee and Illinois border from the billions of Mexicans that are rushing in to
take usless low pay jobs away from 'Merican Rednecks that won't apply to work on medial jobs that aree
below their social status in the Wheeled Estates of Apalacha.
Ain't no way we'll let Mexicans take jobs the blackies don't want.
God lord, what in the hell is wrong with this country? Pinheads everywhere are embracing the mentality of the Klan,
it's the GOP Southern Strategy at work.
Originally posted by: palehorse74
i just find it hillarious that Steeple can attempt to deny that he has called everyone opposing him a racist or a biggot... that's just too funny. After all, that is ALL steeple has contributed... too fvckin funny if you ask me!
Originally posted by: ta8689
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
From here on out, ANYONE who plays the race card needs to dig up some facts before they start spewing crap out of their mouth.
I'm willing to bet most of the people who think it's WONDERFUL that we're marching our country toward 3rd worldism one million people a year.
Does anybody know what assimilating is? Does everyone here realize that since illegal immigrants are entitled to welfare EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD CAN COME HERE AND GET FREE MONEY!?!!
Explain why this is a good thing.
Then end welfare. It's pretty much done as is so I don't know what you're talking about. You can only be on welfare two years before they boot you and only if you have no job, no nothing. I've never seen a welfare person proabably because there are hardly any. Progam is less than 1% of federal budget.
Well that 1% could be used for things a hell of alot better than giving illegal immigrants beer money. Yeah, i know some illegal immigrants. They like it. They like to talk about the "free" money that this country gives them. Oh btw... no jobs, still manage to afford to drive a '98 truck and feed its gastank
edit: OH YEAH, AND THOSE ARE THE 2 OF THE 50 THAT ACTUALLY SPEAK ENGLISH. Why should we adapt thier language when they want to join our society illegally?
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: ta8689
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
From here on out, ANYONE who plays the race card needs to dig up some facts before they start spewing crap out of their mouth.
I'm willing to bet most of the people who think it's WONDERFUL that we're marching our country toward 3rd worldism one million people a year.
Does anybody know what assimilating is? Does everyone here realize that since illegal immigrants are entitled to welfare EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD CAN COME HERE AND GET FREE MONEY!?!!
Explain why this is a good thing.
Then end welfare. It's pretty much done as is so I don't know what you're talking about. You can only be on welfare two years before they boot you and only if you have no job, no nothing. I've never seen a welfare person proabably because there are hardly any. Progam is less than 1% of federal budget.
Well that 1% could be used for things a hell of alot better than giving illegal immigrants beer money. Yeah, i know some illegal immigrants. They like it. They like to talk about the "free" money that this country gives them. Oh btw... no jobs, still manage to afford to drive a '98 truck and feed its gastank
edit: OH YEAH, AND THOSE ARE THE 2 OF THE 50 THAT ACTUALLY SPEAK ENGLISH. Why should we adapt thier language when they want to join our society illegally?
That's thier choice weather to speak english language or not. Many don't need it.I spent some time at a farm in ElCentro and every forman is spanish speaking, every worker was too. so they could co-exist perfectly. Even the business that catered to them spoke spanish. Most Mexican owned but utility companies and general services did too. So it's not really nessesary to wokr and be productive. I do think they may be limiting thier opportunity but that's thier choice too.
I reject you notion they are on welfare. Whites make up the majority of welfare roles followed by blacks. Americans, who were given everything. Most mexicans I see work very hard.
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: ta8689
Originally posted by: Zebo
Originally posted by: BlancoNino
From here on out, ANYONE who plays the race card needs to dig up some facts before they start spewing crap out of their mouth.
I'm willing to bet most of the people who think it's WONDERFUL that we're marching our country toward 3rd worldism one million people a year.
Does anybody know what assimilating is? Does everyone here realize that since illegal immigrants are entitled to welfare EVERY SINGLE PERSON IN THE WORLD CAN COME HERE AND GET FREE MONEY!?!!
Explain why this is a good thing.
Then end welfare. It's pretty much done as is so I don't know what you're talking about. You can only be on welfare two years before they boot you and only if you have no job, no nothing. I've never seen a welfare person proabably because there are hardly any. Progam is less than 1% of federal budget.
Well that 1% could be used for things a hell of alot better than giving illegal immigrants beer money. Yeah, i know some illegal immigrants. They like it. They like to talk about the "free" money that this country gives them. Oh btw... no jobs, still manage to afford to drive a '98 truck and feed its gastank
edit: OH YEAH, AND THOSE ARE THE 2 OF THE 50 THAT ACTUALLY SPEAK ENGLISH. Why should we adapt thier language when they want to join our society illegally?
That's thier choice weather to speak english language or not. Many don't need it.I spent some time at a farm in ElCentro and every forman is spanish speaking, every worker was too. so they could co-exist perfectly. Even the business that catered to them spoke spanish. Most Mexican owned but utility companies and general services did too. So it's not really nessesary to wokr and be productive. I do think they may be limiting thier opportunity but that's thier choice too.
I reject you notion they are on welfare. Whites make up the majority of welfare roles followed by blacks. Americans, who were given everything. Most mexicans I see work very hard.
Mexicans are also founders of the gang system in California that has led to rampant crime and a rapid expansion of the prison system. There's two sides to every coin.
Originally posted by: 5150Joker
Mexicans are also founders of the gang system in California that has led to rampant crime and a rapid expansion of the prison system. There's two sides to every coin.
Originally posted by: pkme2
Well we are in for a rude awakening or we have been overrun by the fact that imigration, legal or otherwise is here to stay. Talking is not going to stop it.
I've seen the newcomers adapt to the American scene and in a few years rise to heights of success. Isn't the American Way marvelous?
So you want to bring up the negative issues. What the hecK? You're an American and you can b*tch forever. Write your congress person and express your concerns. This forum only gets you more upset.
What do I know? There are smarter people than me out there. I just happen to be in the minority when it comes to this thread. Maybe?!
Originally posted by: Zebo
The only people bitching
again with the namecalling... too fvckin funny. so now everyone who disagrees with you is a racist, bigotted, welfare-using, white-trash redneck from the south? this gets better every time you post!Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: Zebo
The only people bitching
The worst ones in here with anger against them sound to me like someone cut them off in the welfare line and they are mad.
so wait, are you suggesting that we should make it even easier for the illegals to work here in some bass-ackwards attempt to reduce crime? are you excusing their criminal behavoir based on the fact that it's too hard for them to find legitimate employment as an illegal alien?!Originally posted by: Zebo
Normal too. The new immigrants always were the bootleggers and opium runners etc (italians & irish mobs) they intergrated, mexicans will intergrate too. If we did'nt shut them out from economic opportunity wether by racism or having to have employment I9 forms they wouldnt have to result to such measures to support themselves.