Bigots United . . .

[Legend]

Originally posted by: Muftobration

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

Oh, ok. YOU don't *think* so. Well, I guess that means it's set in stone guys!

Noone really cares what you *think*. Trying to make people who are against illegal immigration seem like racists by your speculation is really a bad tactic.

I don't approve of illegal immigration because there are plenty of people I know personally who could really use a low paying job that they have lost to an illegal immigrant. I don't know what race they are and I don't care, but the employer is in West Virginia and I doubt that the illegal is a Mexican. Still, I protest the persons presence.

Yeah, seriously wtf.

There's millions of people crossing the border, consuming social services, not integrating into our culture, etc. BUT BECAUSE THEIR WHITE, ITS OKAY. :lol

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit


If that blanket has to come from my childs bed, the that poor shivering soul is SOL.

It is not, you are american and blessed and privileged in many many ways, so say you are not is foolish.

Your child is not going to freeze, you would go into the closet and get another, we are not a third world country yet. :roll:

You still don't get it. If I came into your house, stole your property, raided your fridge and medicine cabinet, would you be happy? Of course not, because you and your illegal friends justify a steal from the rich and give to the poor mentality. Until it happens to you.

I cannot fault you for thinking this, since you come from a family of illegals. Of course you think it's right, you know no other way to live, that's how you were raised. No amount of reasoning will change your narrow opinion that "Midwest and East Coast whites" are to blame, and that it's ok to steal.

There's the right way, and the wrong way. You can keep preaching theft, just as the cashier who steals a buck from their store everyday justifies it with the "I'm poor and have to eat, they are rich, they'll never miss it." Ignorance is bliss.

 

[brandonbull]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
I have neither the resources or the energy to help them all.

Like it or not they are and have been part of our workforce for years, and your baseless accusation that we cannot assimilate immigrants is wholly unfounded in history.

And just becasue someone sees a problem is not specific.

I see it as a problem also, doesen't mean I want to criminalize them.

I was just out to the farm yesterday and saw a new neighbor planting some ground next to me. He bought the ground a couple of years ago from a friend of mine who lost everything he had paying his wife's medical bills (cancer).

I drove down there to see what was going on and maybe meet the new owner. They had 2 people there and were just fisihing up planting some corn. One of the people came back to the truck and loaded a small front end loader they were using to pick rocks onto the semi and the other guy was about finished planting.

I got to talking with the young fellow and he had quite an accent, though he spoke very good english. After talking a while he warmed up and we were joking around. To make a long story short, he was from South Africa over here on a visa and had been in the country 2 weeks. He and a friend came over and were working for the same guy. The person running the big tractor was also from South Africa and had came over last year.

We have people from all over the world wanting to come to this country, and they even speak English. Why should the Mexicans have more of a right to come here then people who do it legally?? None that I can see?

Then you are obviously not looking at why they came here.

So tell me, you obviously have close ties to agri buisness, what do you think of NAFTA and subsidys?

I think I am starting to see why you are so against these people. Or am I totally off base?

NAFTA's impact on the US's GDP is ~0.05%.

 

[smut]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

As I was saying earlier but didnt get to elaborate because I was in a rush to leave is that it wouldn't matter if they were white, black, yellow, pink, purple or blue. Its the fact they are coming here ILLEGALLY and not going about getting citizenship the right way. They think if they can outrun border patrol and hop a few fences they are now citizens. Doesnt work that way my friend. I wish some of you would stop bringing race into the issue! I'd be just as pissed if they were white (the color the one guy brought up) and were coming here illegally and i'm sure most of the others would be to. Now stop bringing up the race card, the majority of people against illegals coming here DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THEY ARE! Usually when someone brings the race card out it just means you dont really have much of an argument to begin with!

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

I cannot fault you for thinking this, since you come from a family of illegals.

I am a american always have been. As for the rest of your right wing lame hate radio rant about omg teh immigrant invaders have landed oh teh noess!1!111 This is hugh!11! get a grip, we live in a big world, and we are not the center of it. Can the outraged american conservative xenophobic "save me from the evil illegal brown skinned people" whining.

Probably flies with your other "sp33dy" buddies in the trailerpark as you suck the glass pipe but it makes other americans look like hyocritical fools.

 

[miketheidiot]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
IE is a real problem. Doing something about it does not make one a biggot.

what problem is it causing?

 

[rogue1979]

I live in southern New Mexico and illegal immigrants are a problem. I have no idea how to solve it, but I will say this:

The Mexicans that come across the border illegally come to work, not cause problems or post a threat to our national security.

And I see them taking jobs that other Americans, white or minorities do not want. So how are they stealing jobs? If we were to legalize all of them, then the government would get income tax and social security tax from them and come out ahead. I mean lets face it, unless we are willing to put up a 30 foot electrified fence and a minefield like the Russians did in East Germany before the fall of the iron curtain, we are not going to keep them out.

I think we need to worry more about people in our country from the middle east!

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

As I was saying earlier but didnt get to elaborate because I was in a rush to leave is that it wouldn't matter if they were white, black, yellow, pink, purple or blue. Its the fact they are coming here ILLEGALLY and not going about getting citizenship the right way. They think if they can outrun border patrol and hop a few fences they are now citizens. Doesnt work that way my friend. I wish some of you would stop bringing race into the issue! I'd be just as pissed if they were white (the color the one guy brought up) and were coming here illegally and i'm sure most of the others would be to. Now stop bringing up the race card, the majority of people against illegals coming here DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THEY ARE! Usually when someone brings the race card out it just means you dont really have much of an argument to begin with!

Thank you for responding without thinking, which is typical. My comment was to say that we aren't talking about illegal Irish immigrants that much, nor Bosnian, nor Russian, but just Mexican. We want to build a fence, blah blah blah. Nearly half of the illegals are from other countries, but we hear zero about them. I'm not downplaying or upplaying the importance of the issue, but the fact that we're focusing ONLY on Mexicans makes the dialogue suspicious in its intent.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Muftobration

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

Oh, ok. YOU don't *think* so. Well, I guess that means it's set in stone guys!

Noone really cares what you *think*. Trying to make people who are against illegal immigration seem like racists by your speculation is really a bad tactic.

I don't approve of illegal immigration because there are plenty of people I know personally who could really use a low paying job that they have lost to an illegal immigrant. I don't know what race they are and I don't care, but the employer is in West Virginia and I doubt that the illegal is a Mexican. Still, I protest the persons presence.

So why are we only talking about building a fence along the Mexican border without any measures toward the other 50% of the immigration problem. Where are the "solutions" to those? I've never said anything about anyone being a racist, but if that's the way you all want to take it... be stupid then.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Legend

Originally posted by: Muftobration

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

Oh, ok. YOU don't *think* so. Well, I guess that means it's set in stone guys!

Noone really cares what you *think*. Trying to make people who are against illegal immigration seem like racists by your speculation is really a bad tactic.

I don't approve of illegal immigration because there are plenty of people I know personally who could really use a low paying job that they have lost to an illegal immigrant. I don't know what race they are and I don't care, but the employer is in West Virginia and I doubt that the illegal is a Mexican. Still, I protest the persons presence.

Yeah, seriously wtf.

There's millions of people crossing the border, consuming social services, not integrating into our culture, etc. BUT BECAUSE THEIR WHITE, ITS OKAY. :lol

So why doesn't any single person talk about the caucasian illegal immigrants? They don't, which is why I wonder.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Do you think that if all Mexican illegals suddenly disappeared, would anybody care about the other 50% of illegals?

Would it be wall-to-wall TV coverage? Would there be draconian Congressional bills?

Face it folks. Some people are racists and look at it in a racist manner. That's just a fact of life.

Some people aren't racists and that's fine. Let's be sure to look at the WHOLE immigration problem, not just one set of people.

The media and Congress uses only the Mexicans because they are an easy focal point. The white illegals tend to blend in easier so they're harder to notice.

 

[Steeplerot]

Notice how you never really hear sh1t about the stampede of russian mafia types you see buying out every niteclub and bars across america, nope they just bash the brown skinned peeps picking strawberries and washing their dishes.

They will deny they are bigots becasue most of them get this crap from hate radio personalities that are freakin nazis, and they accept it pretty much as normal, thus to them they have a moderate view and are not racist. (plus the radio jerks always try to push the limits on bigotry to get away with more sensalitist crap for ratings)

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Notice how you never really hear sh1t about the stampede of russian mafia types you see buying out every niteclub and bars across america, nope they just bash the brown skinned peeps picking strawberries and washing their dishes.

Some of them are probably racist, but some of them aren't. They've just had their attention diverted from the entirety of the situation.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Notice how you never really hear sh1t about the stampede of russian mafia types you see buying out every niteclub and bars across america, nope they just bash the brown skinned peeps picking strawberries and washing their dishes.

Some of them are probably racist, but some of them aren't. They've just had their attention diverted from the entirety of the situation.

I think the majority are not racist or bigots, just really hopped up on rating whore right wing radio hosts or talking heads on tv trying to be offensive and over the top as possible.

Still though, ignorance excuses nothing this is millions of peoples families we are talking about, these people are fvcked, and I don't mean the mexicans.

 

[smut]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

As I was saying earlier but didnt get to elaborate because I was in a rush to leave is that it wouldn't matter if they were white, black, yellow, pink, purple or blue. Its the fact they are coming here ILLEGALLY and not going about getting citizenship the right way. They think if they can outrun border patrol and hop a few fences they are now citizens. Doesnt work that way my friend. I wish some of you would stop bringing race into the issue! I'd be just as pissed if they were white (the color the one guy brought up) and were coming here illegally and i'm sure most of the others would be to. Now stop bringing up the race card, the majority of people against illegals coming here DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THEY ARE! Usually when someone brings the race card out it just means you dont really have much of an argument to begin with!

Thank you for responding without thinking, which is typical. My comment was to say that we aren't talking about illegal Irish immigrants that much, nor Bosnian, nor Russian, but just Mexican. We want to build a fence, blah blah blah. Nearly half of the illegals are from other countries, but we hear zero about them. I'm not downplaying or upplaying the importance of the issue, but the fact that we're focusing ONLY on Mexicans makes the dialogue suspicious in its intent.

Of course your the almighty one that tells other people when they think and dont think, yeah okay. the MAJOR influx of people is the one people will talk about most. Please compare the numbers then you will understand why THEY (newspeople, etc etc, not ME JACKASS) seem to bring up mexicans first. Of course its not right, prove where I ever said that it was. You keep putting everyone that doesnt support ILLEGAL immigration into a pile of "racists and blah blah" Your always generalizing acting like im the policticians, newscaster, writers that always seem to single a certain culture/race out. Pick the right person to start your argument with. And thank you for responding without thinking my friend because in my post if you read it correctly (you obviously didnt as you missed the whole point of it) I already said that I dont what your color is, if you came here illegally your still illegal.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Notice how you never really hear sh1t about the stampede of russian mafia types you see buying out every niteclub and bars across america, nope they just bash the brown skinned peeps picking strawberries and washing their dishes.

Some of them are probably racist, but some of them aren't. They've just had their attention diverted from the entirety of the situation.

I think the majority are not racist or bigots, just really hopped up on rating whore right wing radio hosts or talkign heads on tv trying to be offensive and over the top as possible.

Still though, ignorance excuses nothing

Focusing on one group is a sure way to garner ratings.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

As I was saying earlier but didnt get to elaborate because I was in a rush to leave is that it wouldn't matter if they were white, black, yellow, pink, purple or blue. Its the fact they are coming here ILLEGALLY and not going about getting citizenship the right way. They think if they can outrun border patrol and hop a few fences they are now citizens. Doesnt work that way my friend. I wish some of you would stop bringing race into the issue! I'd be just as pissed if they were white (the color the one guy brought up) and were coming here illegally and i'm sure most of the others would be to. Now stop bringing up the race card, the majority of people against illegals coming here DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THEY ARE! Usually when someone brings the race card out it just means you dont really have much of an argument to begin with!

Thank you for responding without thinking, which is typical. My comment was to say that we aren't talking about illegal Irish immigrants that much, nor Bosnian, nor Russian, but just Mexican. We want to build a fence, blah blah blah. Nearly half of the illegals are from other countries, but we hear zero about them. I'm not downplaying or upplaying the importance of the issue, but the fact that we're focusing ONLY on Mexicans makes the dialogue suspicious in its intent.

Of course your the almighty one that tells other people when they think and dont think, yeah okay. the MAJOR influx of people is the one people will talk about most. Please compare the numbers then you will understand why THEY (newspeople, etc etc, not ME JACKASS) seem to bring up mexicans first. Your always generalizing acting like im the policticians, newscaster, writers that always seem to single them out. Pick the right person to start your argument with.

You see, the focus isn't on Mexicans first. It's Mexicans ONLY. I'm for focusing on the whole situation, but most folks aren't. Why that is, I'm not sure, whether it be racism or lack of knowledge or lack of focus. The debate needs to encompass the entirety of the problem.

 

[smut]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

As I was saying earlier but didnt get to elaborate because I was in a rush to leave is that it wouldn't matter if they were white, black, yellow, pink, purple or blue. Its the fact they are coming here ILLEGALLY and not going about getting citizenship the right way. They think if they can outrun border patrol and hop a few fences they are now citizens. Doesnt work that way my friend. I wish some of you would stop bringing race into the issue! I'd be just as pissed if they were white (the color the one guy brought up) and were coming here illegally and i'm sure most of the others would be to. Now stop bringing up the race card, the majority of people against illegals coming here DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THEY ARE! Usually when someone brings the race card out it just means you dont really have much of an argument to begin with!

Thank you for responding without thinking, which is typical. My comment was to say that we aren't talking about illegal Irish immigrants that much, nor Bosnian, nor Russian, but just Mexican. We want to build a fence, blah blah blah. Nearly half of the illegals are from other countries, but we hear zero about them. I'm not downplaying or upplaying the importance of the issue, but the fact that we're focusing ONLY on Mexicans makes the dialogue suspicious in its intent.

Of course your the almighty one that tells other people when they think and dont think, yeah okay. the MAJOR influx of people is the one people will talk about most. Please compare the numbers then you will understand why THEY (newspeople, etc etc, not ME JACKASS) seem to bring up mexicans first. Your always generalizing acting like im the policticians, newscaster, writers that always seem to single them out. Pick the right person to start your argument with.

You see, the focus isn't on Mexicans first. It's Mexicans ONLY. I'm for focusing on the whole situation, but most folks aren't. Why that is, I'm not sure, whether it be racism or lack of knowledge or lack of focus. The debate needs to encompass the entirety of the problem.

I totally agree with you, never said it was mexicans only. Im just saying whether your mexican, russian, bosnian, african etc etc if you came here illegally its still wrong.

Think about it, one of the reasons they focus on the Mexicans so much is because they are talking about the MEXICAN border. Thats where the mexicans cross over at. Most of the other illegals come from the east coast or west coast. It seems like they arent worried about policing our coasts, just the mexican border which is why they would bring the mexicans up. Russians and bosnians and whoever else is coming here illegally as well arent coming in through the Mexican border, we all know that. I think instead of just focusing on the Mexicans and the Mexican border they should be focusing on every person that comes here illegally EVERYWHERE all on all coasts/borders.

 

[Darkhawk28]

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

As I was saying earlier but didnt get to elaborate because I was in a rush to leave is that it wouldn't matter if they were white, black, yellow, pink, purple or blue. Its the fact they are coming here ILLEGALLY and not going about getting citizenship the right way. They think if they can outrun border patrol and hop a few fences they are now citizens. Doesnt work that way my friend. I wish some of you would stop bringing race into the issue! I'd be just as pissed if they were white (the color the one guy brought up) and were coming here illegally and i'm sure most of the others would be to. Now stop bringing up the race card, the majority of people against illegals coming here DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THEY ARE! Usually when someone brings the race card out it just means you dont really have much of an argument to begin with!

Thank you for responding without thinking, which is typical. My comment was to say that we aren't talking about illegal Irish immigrants that much, nor Bosnian, nor Russian, but just Mexican. We want to build a fence, blah blah blah. Nearly half of the illegals are from other countries, but we hear zero about them. I'm not downplaying or upplaying the importance of the issue, but the fact that we're focusing ONLY on Mexicans makes the dialogue suspicious in its intent.

Of course your the almighty one that tells other people when they think and dont think, yeah okay. the MAJOR influx of people is the one people will talk about most. Please compare the numbers then you will understand why THEY (newspeople, etc etc, not ME JACKASS) seem to bring up mexicans first. Your always generalizing acting like im the policticians, newscaster, writers that always seem to single them out. Pick the right person to start your argument with.

You see, the focus isn't on Mexicans first. It's Mexicans ONLY. I'm for focusing on the whole situation, but most folks aren't. Why that is, I'm not sure, whether it be racism or lack of knowledge or lack of focus. The debate needs to encompass the entirety of the problem.

I totally agree with you, never said it was mexicans only. Im just saying whether your mexican, russian, bosnian, african etc etc if you came here illegally its still wrong.

Sigh. I never said YOU did. I'm saying that many people ARE focusing on Mexicans only and that includes the media and Congress. If all illegal Mexicans just up and disappeared one day, would there be a illegal immigration debate? Probably not, because the media wouldn't cover it. 50% of the problem is still there, just not as easy to focus on one group. Same goes for Congress.

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: CaptnKirkIt could be even more effective with our Southern border - we already have manufacturing facilities
in Mexico built to deliver goods to the US - especially in the automotive industry.
Instead of a wall or a fence being put up, why not put the same amount of energy & investment in
facilities, housing and schools on the Mexican side of the border to provide a way for them to improve their plight there.
It's almost a minimal annexation of the 51st state of Mexico and brings their trade capabilities and
domestic policy in the direction that we have long held with the Canadians, without the damn Hockey. :shocked:

This is all very altruistic and such, but where is all this money going to come from for this plan? We?re already near $9 trillion in the red and financing two occupations with low-yield T-bills. Mexico is a sovereign nation. Why can't THEY be responsible for seeing to the needs and aspirations of their own citizens? Perhaps Mexican?s, being as industrious and saintly as some of you seem to think they are, should dedicate themselves to correcting the obvious political, social and economic problems at home.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: SP33Demon

I cannot fault you for thinking this, since you come from a family of illegals.

I am a american always have been. As for the rest of your right wing lame hate radio rant about omg teh immigrant invaders have landed oh teh noess!1!111 This is hugh!11! get a grip, we live in a big world, and we are not the center of it. Can the outraged american conservative xenophobic "save me from the evil illegal brown skinned people" whining.

Probably flies with your other "sp33dy" buddies in the trailerpark as you suck the glass pipe but it makes other americans look like hyocritical fools.

You clearly stated that members of your family were illegals. Your POV is clearly biased against "Midwest and East Coast Whites" (I'm still laughing at that one btw), as you cannot help but to troll with the race card. Only the moronic would accept anything you say as fact; the intelligent are cognizant enough to spot a fraud.

I could care less if they're brown, yellow, or white as long as they waited in line like my mother and the other 675,000 immigrants per year. Too bad your family couldn't do the same, they lack morality just like the 10-12 million who couldn't wait in line and are undercutting their own people for jobs. Sad, I'm glad the Repubs will put this to rest in 6 months, it's about time they put something back into the cookie jar for once.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: Legend

Originally posted by: Muftobration

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

Oh, ok. YOU don't *think* so. Well, I guess that means it's set in stone guys!

Noone really cares what you *think*. Trying to make people who are against illegal immigration seem like racists by your speculation is really a bad tactic.

I don't approve of illegal immigration because there are plenty of people I know personally who could really use a low paying job that they have lost to an illegal immigrant. I don't know what race they are and I don't care, but the employer is in West Virginia and I doubt that the illegal is a Mexican. Still, I protest the persons presence.

Yeah, seriously wtf.

There's millions of people crossing the border, consuming social services, not integrating into our culture, etc. BUT BECAUSE THEIR WHITE, ITS OKAY. :lol

So why doesn't any single person talk about the caucasian illegal immigrants? They don't, which is why I wonder.

If you've read this and other threads, it's quite clear that there are 50K Irish illegals in NYC alone who should be deported. Nobody is against their deportation either.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Do you think that if all Mexican illegals suddenly disappeared, would anybody care about the other 50% of illegals?

Would it be wall-to-wall TV coverage? Would there be draconian Congressional bills?

Face it folks. Some people are racists and look at it in a racist manner. That's just a fact of life.

Some people aren't racists and that's fine. Let's be sure to look at the WHOLE immigration problem, not just one set of people.

The media and Congress uses only the Mexicans because they are an easy focal point. The white illegals tend to blend in easier so they're harder to notice.

Most of the people in this thread have used the term illegal immigrants, not Mexicans. You've fallen for Steeple's race card agenda, sadly.

There are some people who do not like aspects of the Mexican culture, such as unwillingness to assimilate with normal Americans. Do you think this is or isn't true? That's about the only singling out of the Mexicans that I've seen. I'm sure other cultures act the same way, but there isn't such a mass of them so it's not magnified.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Notice how you never really hear sh1t about the stampede of russian mafia types you see buying out every niteclub and bars across america, nope they just bash the brown skinned peeps picking strawberries and washing their dishes.

They will deny they are bigots becasue most of them get this crap from hate radio personalities that are freakin nazis, and they accept it pretty much as normal, thus to them they have a moderate view and are not racist. (plus the radio jerks always try to push the limits on bigotry to get away with more sensalitist crap for ratings)

Link to proof that illegal Russian immigrants are buying out niteclubs and bars? Oh that's right, because you just made that up.

Yeah, I think there are tons of illegal Indians buying 7-11's too! :roll:

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28

Originally posted by: smut

Originally posted by: Darkhawk28
Would there be this much of an uproar if all the illegals were white?

I don't think so.

As I was saying earlier but didnt get to elaborate because I was in a rush to leave is that it wouldn't matter if they were white, black, yellow, pink, purple or blue. Its the fact they are coming here ILLEGALLY and not going about getting citizenship the right way. They think if they can outrun border patrol and hop a few fences they are now citizens. Doesnt work that way my friend. I wish some of you would stop bringing race into the issue! I'd be just as pissed if they were white (the color the one guy brought up) and were coming here illegally and i'm sure most of the others would be to. Now stop bringing up the race card, the majority of people against illegals coming here DON'T CARE WHAT COLOR THEY ARE! Usually when someone brings the race card out it just means you dont really have much of an argument to begin with!

Thank you for responding without thinking, which is typical. My comment was to say that we aren't talking about illegal Irish immigrants that much, nor Bosnian, nor Russian, but just Mexican. We want to build a fence, blah blah blah. Nearly half of the illegals are from other countries, but we hear zero about them. I'm not downplaying or upplaying the importance of the issue, but the fact that we're focusing ONLY on Mexicans makes the dialogue suspicious in its intent.

Of course your the almighty one that tells other people when they think and dont think, yeah okay. the MAJOR influx of people is the one people will talk about most. Please compare the numbers then you will understand why THEY (newspeople, etc etc, not ME JACKASS) seem to bring up mexicans first. Your always generalizing acting like im the policticians, newscaster, writers that always seem to single them out. Pick the right person to start your argument with.

You see, the focus isn't on Mexicans first. It's Mexicans ONLY. I'm for focusing on the whole situation, but most folks aren't. Why that is, I'm not sure, whether it be racism or lack of knowledge or lack of focus. The debate needs to encompass the entirety of the problem.

I totally agree with you, never said it was mexicans only. Im just saying whether your mexican, russian, bosnian, african etc etc if you came here illegally its still wrong.

Think about it, one of the reasons they focus on the Mexicans so much is because they are talking about the MEXICAN border. Thats where the mexicans cross over at. Most of the other illegals come from the east coast or west coast. It seems like they arent worried about policing our coasts, just the mexican border which is why they would bring the mexicans up. Russians and bosnians and whoever else is coming here illegally as well arent coming in through the Mexican border, we all know that. I think instead of just focusing on the Mexicans and the Mexican border they should be focusing on every person that comes here illegally EVERYWHERE all on all coasts/borders.

If your femoral artery is bleeding, or you pricked your finger, which would you attend to first? In an ideal system, everything would be tied to a national database that all employers have to get approval from before hiring someone. But first things first, the Southern border needs to be secured, then maybe they can come up with a plan to weed all of them out.