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Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Because you say it's true? Sorry, that don't cut it for me.

No, you have been in every thread where people point historical facts out about how we wound up closing the doors on unregulated numbers of immigrants in the 1920's and how the KKK itself was responsible for the studies given to congress of how new immigrants from western europe were a "sub-species" of superior eastern europeans. (that already came in by this point) They have prettied it up some in the past 90 years but it is still not large enough of a window for what we need in immigrants besides not being very american.
(and was not adjusted realilisticly becasue of cheap labor conservatives loving the corporate kickbacks from letting in a sub-class of laborers in to help squash union labor that at any time could be discarded by fearmongering the xenophobic part of our "legit" citizenry)
Are you only reading what you want so you can come in and rant about "illegals" becasue you obviously are not getting both sides of the picture.

What is so ironic about this literal gamble of playing the xenophobes off of the mexicans is it can be turned against the slavedriving conservatives who let this happen, give them full rights and unionize them ala what cesar chavez taught us. It would come right back to slap the jerks in the face and america gets its new middle class post-baby boomer.

Win-win for america.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Because you say it's true? Sorry, that don't cut it for me.

No, you have been in every thread where people point historical facts out about how we wound up closing the doors on unregulated numbers of immigrants in the 1920's and how the KKK itself was responsible for the studies given to congress of how new immigrants from western europe were a "sub-species" of superior eastern europeans. (that already came in by this point) They have prettied it up some in the past 90 years but it is still not large enough of a window for what we need in immigrants besides not being very american.
(and was not adjusted becasue of cheap labor conservatives loving the corporate advantages of letting in a sub-class of laborers to help squash union labor)
Are you only reading what you want so you can come in and rant about "illegals" becasue you obviously are not getting both sides of the picture.

What happened 90 years ago isn't relevant to the problem we have now in any way that I can see? We can do what we want/agree on because it is our country, that's just the way it works.

Let's face the facts here. Europeans will favor Europeans, Mexicans want to help other Mexicans, Blacks will help blacks. So we're all keeping scorecards to a certain degree. Throwing around the racist name doesn't help solve this problem.

In the last analysis, the illegals came here illegally. It doesn't matter what there intentions were, they broke the law. We gave them amnesty once and now it appears we've opened the floodgates. If all factors were equal, the fact they work cheaper wouldn't bother me, but there is a reason they work cheaper, an economic reason. they save as much as they can and send it home, where they will retire in comfort. The Mexican goverment is even looking at tax credits for "guest workers" to encourage them to build a home in Mexico.

Is that fair to the hard workingblue collar Americans? I don't think it is.

So what do we do about it?

Create a second class citizen? That seems to be the worst ide of them all to me.

Jump them ahead of the people trying to come here legally? Not fair.

Just keep looking the other way? The problem isn't going to solve itself.

Change the immigration laws? OK, but what do we do about the people here???

 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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I already laid this out in next part of previous post.

And no, if your going to pull the "face facts" bit with me then you might as well give up the whole issue and figure out how to get social security cards out, becasue they are not going anywhere in reality.

We already have a great american leader we celebrate who dealt with this issue that noone is talking about, check out cesar chavez and why he is so famous.

The answers are right under our nose, so close just about any calender has his birthday on it.

American history ftw.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I already laid this out in next part of previous post.

And no, if your going to pull the "face facts" bit with me then you might as well give up the whole issue and figure out how to get social security cards out, becasue they are not going anywhere in reality.

Repeat after me...NO AMNESTY.... not this time. If you think that makes me a racist, the fine. I think you are too.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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It is not going to happen, you are living a dream then, feel free to cheer with the xenophobes over this bill fantasy. But that is all it ever will be.

You cannot uproot 12 million working class people in this country and they would have every right to stop you from trying law or not. Your talking a mass deportation that would give the nazis a headache. Not to mention mothers taken away from their children etc etc.

For what? becasue some hate group through some neocon twit on tv told you they were trampling all over your sacred country? give me a break, your ancestors did the same thing.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
As I said, mexicos loss of motivated workers, our gain. They should have watched their borders.

it also would have been swell to be able to tax the $18billion sent home to Mexico, in cash, last year alone! ya... that would have been EXTRA swell, and it may have even paid for half of the operations the rest of us are forced to pay for when one of the illegals ends up in the hospital....DOH!
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
As I said, mexicos loss of motivated workers, our gain. They should have watched their borders.

it also would have been swell to be able to tax the $18billion sent home to Mexico, in cash, last year alone! ya... that would have been EXTRA swell, and it may have even paid for half of the operations the rest of us are forced to pay for when one of the illegals ends up in the hospital....DOH!



So what? We rape them with nafta, your talking pennies here, (or pesos) please, save the BS right wing lies and so called "facts" out of hate groups propaganda. Noone who knows the facts even considers that an issue, what are you going to do? ban the mail? :roll:
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Maybe one of you anti-immigration folks should sue the country for falsely advertising 'Land of Opportunity', and ship that damn statue back too, it gives everyone a wrong idea.

get it through your overly-thick skull, we are anti-ILLEGAL-immigration, NOT what you said. it makes me sick when your type tries to put words in our mouths; and dont even for a second attempt to say that you didnt write that on purpose.

nice f'n try.

bah.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
It is not going to happen, you are living a dream then, feel free to cheer with the xenophobes over this bill fantasy. But that is all it ever will be.

Your right, I'll go for the "guest worker" bill rather then be blackmailed by illegals again.

They want to disrespect us and our laws, then fine they can have second class legal status. I better start planning the building of my hog confinement operation so I can take advantage of the cheap "guest worker" program. Problem solved, except they still don't get to vote?? Well, that's not my problem, they should have thought of that before they started breakin our laws.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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its so funny how you hold the word illegal so sacred in the discussion, you know why they push it? becasue it is all you have that disguises the real reasons behind the issue.

You take illegal out and all you have is "get the fvck out mexicans, and stop sucking my welfare you beaners" to sum it up.

Its the "we dont like your kind in our parts" arguement with a twist of a convienent law, always looking for a excuse to make others out to be a burden.

The illegal part is a really lame cover.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
As I said, mexicos loss of motivated workers, our gain. They should have watched their borders.

it also would have been swell to be able to tax the $18billion sent home to Mexico, in cash, last year alone! ya... that would have been EXTRA swell, and it may have even paid for half of the operations the rest of us are forced to pay for when one of the illegals ends up in the hospital....DOH!



So what? We rape them with nafta, your talking pennies here, (or pesos) please, save the BS right wing lies and so called "facts" out of hate groups propaganda. Noone who knows the facts even considers that an issue, what are you going to do? ban the mail? :roll:

ummm, that $18billion amount is taken out of the latest issue of Scientific American... hate literature? ya... right.

stick it Steeperot.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
its so funny how you hold the word illegal so sacred in the discussion, you know why they push it? becasue it is all you have that disguises the real reasons behind the issue.

You take illegal out and all you have is "get the fvck out mexicans, and stop sucking my welfare you beaners" to sum it up.

Its the "we dont like your kind in our parts" arguement, always looking for a excuse to make others out to be a burden.

Did you see the "Mind of Mencino" the other day. He was trashing blacks for complaining about all the illegals working construction in the rebuilding of New Orleans. He asked when was the last time you saw a black in line at Hopme Depot?? LMAO. He told them to back off and let the beaners build, they're good at that.

Kind of begs the question "Why can't they build up their own country???", don't you think?
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
As I said, mexicos loss of motivated workers, our gain. They should have watched their borders.

it also would have been swell to be able to tax the $18billion sent home to Mexico, in cash, last year alone! ya... that would have been EXTRA swell, and it may have even paid for half of the operations the rest of us are forced to pay for when one of the illegals ends up in the hospital....DOH!



So what? We rape them with nafta, your talking pennies here, (or pesos) please, save the BS right wing lies and so called "facts" out of hate groups propaganda. Noone who knows the facts even considers that an issue, what are you going to do? ban the mail? :roll:

ummm, that $18billion amount is taken out of the latest issue of Scientific American... hate literature? ya... right.

stick it Steeperot.



Well, you didnt name your source, youwho has been busted by me using terrorist groups as links.

Go look up what we do to them with nafta, we RAPE them, and there is a point where you have to think how much wealth we are taking that lead them to be so poor as to risk coming here also. But lou dobbs isnt gonna tell you that.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
its so funny how you hold the word illegal so sacred in the discussion, you know why they push it? becasue it is all you have that disguises the real reasons behind the issue.

You take illegal out and all you have is "get the fvck out mexicans, and stop sucking my welfare you beaners" to sum it up.

Its the "we dont like your kind in our parts" arguement with a twist of a convienent law, always looking for a excuse to make others out to be a burden.

The illegal part is a really lame cover.
back to calling everyone a racist again Steeple?

that's it. im done with you.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
its so funny how you hold the word illegal so sacred in the discussion, you know why they push it? becasue it is all you have that disguises the real reasons behind the issue.

You take illegal out and all you have is "get the fvck out mexicans, and stop sucking my welfare you beaners" to sum it up.

Its the "we dont like your kind in our parts" arguement, always looking for a excuse to make others out to be a burden.

Did you see the "Mind of Mencino" the other day. He was trashing blacks for complaining about all the illegals working construction in the rebuilding of New Orleans. He asked when was the last time you saw a black in line at Hopme Depot?? LMAO. He told them to back off and let the beaners build, they're good at that.

Kind of begs the question "Why can't they build up their own country???", don't you think?



Sounds like a real ass, you think this is funny or informative? or is it appealing becasue it plays into a stereotype you subsciribe to?
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: JacobJ
Originally posted by: Red Dawn

So even if it's true it's racist?

It's the willing ignorance, the complete lack of humanity, the subjugation and classification of human beings based solely on "law" that is that is wrong. The fact that people are only concerned with the law in terms of ONE specific racial group -- well -- that is racist.
Wth is wrong with you? This has nothing to do with one specific racial group, your attempts to fuel a racial war is unfounded and I'm calling you out. Oh wait, 50K Irish illegals don't count b/c they're white. Illegal Indians and Asians don't count either... stop posting.
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
its so funny how you hold the word illegal so sacred in the discussion, you know why they push it? becasue it is all you have that disguises the real reasons behind the issue.

You take illegal out and all you have is "get the fvck out mexicans, and stop sucking my welfare you beaners" to sum it up.

Its the "we dont like your kind in our parts" arguement, always looking for a excuse to make others out to be a burden.

Did you see the "Mind of Mencino" the other day. He was trashing blacks for complaining about all the illegals working construction in the rebuilding of New Orleans. He asked when was the last time you saw a black in line at Hopme Depot?? LMAO. He told them to back off and let the beaners build, they're good at that.

Kind of begs the question "Why can't they build up their own country???", don't you think?

Sounds like a real ass, you think this is funny?
Carlos Mencia is a latino comic, and just so happens to be one of the funniest men on the planet.

dee de deeeeeee
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
its so funny how you hold the word illegal so sacred in the discussion, you know why they push it? becasue it is all you have that disguises the real reasons behind the issue.

You take illegal out and all you have is "get the fvck out mexicans, and stop sucking my welfare you beaners" to sum it up.

Its the "we dont like your kind in our parts" arguement, always looking for a excuse to make others out to be a burden.

Did you see the "Mind of Mencino" the other day. He was trashing blacks for complaining about all the illegals working construction in the rebuilding of New Orleans. He asked when was the last time you saw a black in line at Hopme Depot?? LMAO. He told them to back off and let the beaners build, they're good at that.

Kind of begs the question "Why can't they build up their own country???", don't you think?



Sounds like a real ass, you think this is funny or informative? or is it appealing becasue it plays into a stereotype you subsciribe to?

Ahh, he's a famous Mexican comedian with a weekly show on the comedy channel??
 

SP33Demon

Lifer
Jun 22, 2001
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74

bah, forget it. I know where I stand, and it has NOTHING to do with race, regardless of how many times Steeplerot says so.

Oh course not, the law is a great way to hide behind this issue.

This is why this illegal arguement is pounded into the racist part of america, it's a easy cop-out.

Trust me, the average germans had their own cop-outs just like this to condemn the jews.

I mean it was "the law" and has nothing to do with race. riiight, same deal as labeling muslims insane, just another easy way to dehumanize for your own agenda.
Keep pulling the race card, and we'll keep laughing at you. This is from one minority to another.

 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Ahh, he's a famous Mexican comedian with a weekly show on the comedy channel??

Plenty of people will use the plight own people to profit.Heck concentration camps were policed at times by fellow jews trying to save their own skins.

Is this acceptable?

Ok, so is it funny becasue he plays into a stereotype you buy into?
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Gonna try to step out of the neocon generalzations of pathetic "race card" accusations to cover their asses on this issue seems the limbots have arrived.
 

1EZduzit

Lifer
Feb 4, 2002
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Ahh, he's a famous Mexican comedian with a weekly show on the comedy channel??

Plenty of people will use the plight own people to profit.Heck concentration camps were policed at times by fellow jews trying to save their own skins.

Is this acceptable?

Ok, so is it funny becasue he plays into a stereotype you buy into?

As opposed to the sterotype you want me to believe in?? :laugh:
 

palehorse

Lifer
Dec 21, 2005
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Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74


that's it. im done with you.

You already explained how you hate them for treading on your godly soil, no loss to me seeya.
I NEVER, in my entire life, said any such thing, or anything even remotely close to it. DO NOT put words or slanderous BS remarks in my mouth.

thankyou.

I am against ANYONE, of ANY color, from ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, coming into America illegally. I don't care if you're white, black, brown, yellow, green, or purple; you either come here legally, or not at all.

period.

now kindly #%@# off Steeple.
 

Steeplerot

Lifer
Mar 29, 2004
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Originally posted by: palehorse74
Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Originally posted by: palehorse74


that's it. im done with you.

You already explained how you hate them for treading on your godly soil, no loss to me seeya.
I NEVER, in my entire life, said any such thing, or anything even remotely close to it. DO NOT put words or slanderous BS remarks in my mouth.

thankyou.

I am against ANYONE, of ANY color, from ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD, coming into America illegally. I don't care if you're white, black, brown, yellow, green, or purple; you either come here legally, or not at all.

period.

now kindly #%@# off Steeple.


who you calling illegal pilgrim? bye bye
 
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