Bigots United . . .

[JacobJ]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
NO job should EVER exist in America that allows a person to stay in poverty. When Americans have to compete against foreigners our poverty level rises. When illegals fill the jobs supply and demand dictates that the wages will not be raised. We need to boycott them AND their low paying employers.

From the Merriam Webster Dictionary: ()

Main Entry: Amer·i·ca
Usage: geographical name
1 either continent (N. America or S. America) of the western hemisphere
2 or the Amer·i·cas /-k&z/ the lands of the western hemisphere including N., Central, & S. America & the W. Indies

 

[HardWarrior]

Originally posted by: JacobJ

Originally posted by: Jaskalas
NO job should EVER exist in America that allows a person to stay in poverty. When Americans have to compete against foreigners our poverty level rises. When illegals fill the jobs supply and demand dictates that the wages will not be raised. We need to boycott them AND their low paying employers.

From the Merriam Webster Dictionary: ()

Main Entry: Amer·i·ca
Usage: geographical name
1 either continent (N. America or S. America) of the western hemisphere
2 or the Amer·i·cas /-k&z/ the lands of the western hemisphere including N., Central, & S. America & the W. Indies

dictionary.com

United States of America

n : North American republic containing 50 states - 48 conterminous states in North America plus Alaska in northwest North America and the Hawaiian Islands in the Pacific Ocean; achieved independence in 1776

 

[1EZduzit]

Stolen from another thread:

Mexico Harsh to Undocumented Migrants

It looks like it's "Bigots United" south of the border too.

Although Mexico objects to U.S. authorities detaining Mexican immigrants, police and soldiers usually cause the most trouble for migrants in Mexico, even though they aren't technically authorized to enforce immigration laws.

And while Mexicans denounce the criminalization of their citizens living without papers in the United States, Mexican law classifies undocumented immigration as a felony punishable by up to two years in prison, although deportation is more common.

The number of undocumented migrants detained in Mexico almost doubled from 138,061 in 2002 to 240,269 last year. Forty-two percent were Guatemalan, 33 percent Honduran and most of the rest Salvadoran.

The poor people just come to do the work the Mexican's won't.

 

[palehorse]

you are all racist scum born of rightwing-nazi incest. you are underseving of your own rights, opportunities, and money. ALL of which should be immediately donated to the nearest poor person. they deserve it more than you do because...umm... it's their turn?

/sarcasm off

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Maybe one of you anti-immigration folks should sue the country for falsely advertising 'Land of Opportunity', and ship that damn statue back too, it gives everyone a wrong idea.

Isnt the topic ILLEGAL immigration? There's a difference you know...and while we get ready to ship the statue back perhaps you would be first in line to burn the constitution that protects AMERICANS (and not the whole world)???

People should know better now that we have all the whites we want that immigration is a outdated concept and should be only regulated to a few who go through our bureaucracy.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Maybe one of you anti-immigration folks should sue the country for falsely advertising 'Land of Opportunity', and ship that damn statue back too, it gives everyone a wrong idea.

People should know better now that we have all the whites we want that immigration is a outdated concept and should be only regulated to a few who go through our bureaucracy.

Racist much?

(the second line was /sarcasm if you didnt pick that up, it is making fun of anti-immigration peeps and the double standard of "waiting in line doing it the "right" way.)

It's true, this is how we got our current immigration laws. Racist tested, KKK aproved.

Please quote ONE law from our books regarding immigration that is racist...go ahead...we're waiting...

That's what I thought. You cant actually back your paper words up.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit


Next time you try to blackmail someone, just think about how you helped all those millions of illegals become legal...... second class maybe, but legal. Karl Rove just loves cheap labor. Apparently Karl Rove is laughing at you too.

The cons are the one that have framed the issue into them being criminals so when a soloution to keep them here which inevitably has to be done goes through, people who like you will swallow a partial restriciton to full citzenship to get some kind of needed revenge and the neocons win keeping corporate profits up by second class citizen soloution, (and by dividing parties)
Noone is blackmailing anyone, borders and socio-economics factors = migration it is not blackmail, it is human nature. Mexicans have always came up here to work, matter of fact it was their home not so long ago.

Your imagination is rich and fertile, now you just need to tie it in with your intellect.

Why else would the cons be stirring up the xenophobes of their party? (dixiecrats) and pushing this all over their media?
They know that some good old american hate will keep the party together and maybe suck in a few more.
homosexuals are last years news, welfare queens? feh how 90s, now its the evil invaders, o0o0o0o they are so bad, they suck all our tax money, cons- "lets drive another wedge issue and get our slavedriving machine legit in the process by making the mexicans second class citizens."


The thing that makes me happy is the biggest thing they push at these immigration rallys is to VOTE these people out. I will be there with them too, this has rallied a LOT of voters of hispanic origins and almost every other minority into seeing how low the whites in power will push, they are going to lose big with this one, sure some cant vote yet, but a LOT can.
republicans, you just fvcked yourselves HARD on a huge voting block.

Correction nimwit...NONE of your beloved ILLEGAL immigrants can vote

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Noone is blackmailing anyone... Why do you think this?

Do you really think people came over to feed their familys looking to screw you or anyone over here?

As a matter of fact, YES. They intentientionally screwed the USA by not coming here legally. They have Z E R O respect for our laws.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Correction nimwit...NONE of your beloved ILLEGAL immigrants can vote

Yes but many parts of their familys can. 1 immigrant can = many voting family members

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Maybe one of you anti-immigration folks should sue the country for falsely advertising 'Land of Opportunity', and ship that damn statue back too, it gives everyone a wrong idea.

People should know better now that we have all the whites we want that immigration is a outdated concept and should be only regulated to a few who go through our bureaucracy.

Racist much?

(the second line was /sarcasm if you didnt pick that up, it is making fun of anti-immigration peeps and the double standard of "waiting in line doing it the "right" way.)

It's true, this is how we got our current immigration laws. Racist tested, KKK aproved.

Please quote ONE law from our books regarding immigration that is racist...go ahead...we're waiting...

That's what I thought. You cant actually back your paper words up.

Look up immigration act of 1921 and the KKK, this was our first bill that introduced a limit.

Old news, brush up on your history. Noone came here "legally" before 1921 they just came.

zero respect for laws is a major generalzation you break laws every day I will bet, even if you dont realize/care, the breaking a law things is a cheap excuse to justify this bill calling out millions of people that have done this country no wrong but to work and make a living as much as regular citizens, scapegoating a people to blame for societys ills.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Maybe one of you anti-immigration folks should sue the country for falsely advertising 'Land of Opportunity', and ship that damn statue back too, it gives everyone a wrong idea.

People should know better now that we have all the whites we want that immigration is a outdated concept and should be only regulated to a few who go through our bureaucracy.

Racist much?

(the second line was /sarcasm if you didnt pick that up, it is making fun of anti-immigration peeps and the double standard of "waiting in line doing it the "right" way.)

It's true, this is how we got our current immigration laws. Racist tested, KKK aproved.

Please quote ONE law from our books regarding immigration that is racist...go ahead...we're waiting...

That's what I thought. You cant actually back your paper words up.

Look up immigration act of 1921 and the KKK, this was our first bill that introduced a limit.

Old news, brush up on your history. Noone came here "legally" before 1921 they just came.

zero respect for laws is a major generalzation you break laws every day I will bet, even if you dont realize/care, the breaking a law things is a cheap excuse to justify this bill calling out millions of people that have done this country no wrong but to work and make a living as much as regular citizens, scapegoating a people to blame for societys ills.

and here we go again with you equating illegal entry into the US to speeding on your way to work, or jaywalking.

total.fvcking.nonsense.

this is the 21st century. Laws such as those governing entrance to our sovereign nation can no longer be ignored; no matter how often you point to the racism of 1921 to excuse the modern crimes...

like i said, everything you think and write is total.fvcking.nonsense.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Maybe one of you anti-immigration folks should sue the country for falsely advertising 'Land of Opportunity', and ship that damn statue back too, it gives everyone a wrong idea.

People should know better now that we have all the whites we want that immigration is a outdated concept and should be only regulated to a few who go through our bureaucracy.

Racist much?

(the second line was /sarcasm if you didnt pick that up, it is making fun of anti-immigration peeps and the double standard of "waiting in line doing it the "right" way.)

It's true, this is how we got our current immigration laws. Racist tested, KKK aproved.

Please quote ONE law from our books regarding immigration that is racist...go ahead...we're waiting...

That's what I thought. You cant actually back your paper words up.

Look up immigration act of 1921 and the KKK, this was our first bill that introduced a limit.

Old news, brush up on your history. Noone came here "legally" before 1921 they just came.

zero respect for laws is a major generalzation you break laws every day I will bet, even if you dont realize/care, the breaking a law things is a cheap excuse to justify this bill calling out millions of people that have done this country no wrong but to work and make a living as much as regular citizens, scapegoating a people to blame for societys ills.

and here we go again with you equating illegal entry into the US to speeding on your way to work, or jaywalking.

total.fvcking.nonsense.

this is the 21st century. Laws such as those governing entrance to our sovereign nation can no longer be ignored; no matter how often you point to the racism of 1921 to excuse the modern crimes...

like i said, everything you think and write is total.fvcking.nonsense.

No, your pathetic justifications and double standards are the BS. If your looking to paint someone with a broad brush try looking hypocrite up in a dictionary, it describes you anti-migration people well.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: blackangst1

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: 1EZduzit

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Maybe one of you anti-immigration folks should sue the country for falsely advertising 'Land of Opportunity', and ship that damn statue back too, it gives everyone a wrong idea.

People should know better now that we have all the whites we want that immigration is a outdated concept and should be only regulated to a few who go through our bureaucracy.

Racist much?

(the second line was /sarcasm if you didnt pick that up, it is making fun of anti-immigration peeps and the double standard of "waiting in line doing it the "right" way.)

It's true, this is how we got our current immigration laws. Racist tested, KKK aproved.

Please quote ONE law from our books regarding immigration that is racist...go ahead...we're waiting...

That's what I thought. You cant actually back your paper words up.

Look up immigration act of 1921 and the KKK, this was our first bill that introduced a limit.

Old news, brush up on your history. Noone came here "legally" before 1921 they just came.

zero respect for laws is a major generalzation you break laws every day I will bet, even if you dont realize/care, the breaking a law things is a cheap excuse to justify this bill calling out millions of people that have done this country no wrong but to work and make a living as much as regular citizens, scapegoating a people to blame for societys ills.

and here we go again with you equating illegal entry into the US to speeding on your way to work, or jaywalking.

total.fvcking.nonsense.

this is the 21st century. Laws such as those governing entrance to our sovereign nation can no longer be ignored; no matter how often you point to the racism of 1921 to excuse the modern crimes...

like i said, everything you think and write is total.fvcking.nonsense.

No, your pathetic justifications and double standards are the BS. If your looking to paint someone with a broad brush try looking hypocrite up in a dictionary, it describes you anti-migration people well.

correction, we are anti-ILLEGAL-immigration.

After all, I am a legal immigrant.

duh.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

After all, I am a legal immigrant.

duh.

Your parents came here after 1921? If not you are neither legal or illegal, just a migrant.

 

[marincounty]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
Umm what mexicans are you paying for, you live in freakin marin county, a place so white they will not allow the bart train to go there as they are afraid of "undesireables"

The same type of people buying the same BS complaining about mexicans, one from south dakota and one from marin, the beverly hills of nocal. *slaps forehead*

And anyhow no mexican took the black janitors job, the union busting republicans did that in the 80s under reagan most likely.

What the hell would you know about marin, living in New Jersey? And we have tons of mexicans here, thank you very much. My friends neighborhood is nearly all mexicans.
Nice try with the race card though.

 

[CaptnKirk]

Points to Ponder

<WashPost Op-Ed>

Lays out the dificulties for both sides of the argument.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

After all, I am a legal immigrant.

duh.

Your parents came here after 1921? If not you are neither legal or illegal, just a migrant.

wrong.. both my mother and I are legal immigrants to the US. In other words, we came here through one of the legal methods of entry; as opposed to coming here through the illegal methods.

1) We did it the right way in 1975. (ie. correct, legal, rightful, good, etc) = legal immigrants, or "legal resident alien status" if you wish to get specific.

2) There are over 12 million who came here the wrong way. (ie. criminal, illegal, wrongful, incorrect, bad, etc) = illegal immigrants or illegal aliens, aka CRIMINALS!

see how that works?

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

After all, I am a legal immigrant.

duh.

Your parents came here after 1921? If not you are neither legal or illegal, just a migrant.

wrong.. both my mother and I are legal immigrants to the US. In other words, we came here through one of the legal methods of entry; as opposed to coming here through the illegal methods.

1) We did it the right way in 1975. (ie. correct, legal, rightful, good, etc) = legal immigrants, or "legal resident alien status" if you wish to get specific.

2) There are over 12 million who came here the wrong way. (ie. criminal, illegal, wrongful, incorrect, bad, etc) = illegal immigrants or illegal aliens, aka CRIMINALS!

see how that works?

And what difference do you think it makes if you think it is illegal?

You going to call in the gestapoo to remove 12 million people and their famlies?
All this crying over spilled milk, what do you expect people to do? You would do the same thing.

You are pissing in the wind stirring the race pot becasue you think you can feel outraged over a pointless cause, tell us where your outrage is coming from.

All you are doing is making an ass out of america acting like a spoiled child because you were lucky enough to get citizenship on a technicality, and you condemn others for being illegal in their historic homeland over a technicality, this is america a country of immigrants wake up and lose the attitude, you are no better, at least these people worked to come here to seek freedom and oppurtunity instead of getting a handout.

Life is not fair and rules are made to be broken, suck it up, they have just as many valid reasons to be here as you do, if not a few more since their famlies were here.
If you are going to be outraged over something get outraged over injustices this administration is putting forth upon us, join the fight to keep this country free, or join the crowd making this place a sh1thole that soon noone would want to immigrate to anyway. -Your choice.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

After all, I am a legal immigrant.

duh.

Your parents came here after 1921? If not you are neither legal or illegal, just a migrant.

wrong.. both my mother and I are legal immigrants to the US. In other words, we came here through one of the legal methods of entry; as opposed to coming here through the illegal methods.

1) We did it the right way in 1975. (ie. correct, legal, rightful, good, etc) = legal immigrants, or "legal resident alien status" if you wish to get specific.

2) There are over 12 million who came here the wrong way. (ie. criminal, illegal, wrongful, incorrect, bad, etc) = illegal immigrants or illegal aliens, aka CRIMINALS!

see how that works?

And what difference do you think it makes if you think it is illegal?

You going to call in the gestapoo to remove 12 million people and their famlies?
All this crying over spilled milk, what do you expect people to do? You would do the same thing.

You are pissing in the wind stirring the race pot becasue you think you can feel outraged over a pointless cause, tell us where your outrage is coming from.

All you are doing is making an ass out of america acting like a spoiled child, a country of immigrants.

i dont "think" it is illegal, IT IS ILLEGAL! you dolt...

as for the solution, i've posted it several times, and none of it involves any gestapo's removing anyone.

STEP 1: physically lock down all border crossing locations totally and ocmpletely. This includes the entire border with Mexico and other ports of illegal entry. This is the most crucial step in the entire process. If not done correctly or effectively, then the rest is absolutely pointless, and we may as well give up now.

STEP 2: Replace the SS Card with a National ID System. Only legal residents could obtain the new digitized card. The uses and benefits of such a card are endless...

STEP 3: Spend $$ and time working with the primary countries of origin for most of our illegals and make the legal methods of entry more efficient! this will allow more legal immigration and make running, swimming, and jumping for it less attractive.

STEP 4: Crack down on any/all employers who try to employ illegal immmigrants. Fine them heavily, jail them, etc. the new National ID card will make enforcement much easier, as forging should/would be nare impossible if the card is done right.

STEP 5: Take the existing 12-20 million illegals and transfer them over to an alternate legal method of obtaining citizenship. In order to remain in the USA, they would pay some fines and/or extra taxes during the duration, etc. the entire goal for them, and every other immigrant, would be to obtain the golden National ID at the end of the tunnel. (thus encouraguing them to come out of the woodwork). This solution eliminates the need for mass deportation, and thanks to STEP 1 above, it limits the number of illegals down the road.

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Now, Steeple, just how fvcking racist is my solution!? how evil am I? huh? ya, that's what I thought.

you know nothing steeple. you're a waste of oxygen.

 

[blackangst1]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Steeplerot

Originally posted by: palehorse74

After all, I am a legal immigrant.

duh.

Your parents came here after 1921? If not you are neither legal or illegal, just a migrant.

wrong.. both my mother and I are legal immigrants to the US. In other words, we came here through one of the legal methods of entry; as opposed to coming here through the illegal methods.

1) We did it the right way in 1975. (ie. correct, legal, rightful, good, etc) = legal immigrants, or "legal resident alien status" if you wish to get specific.

2) There are over 12 million who came here the wrong way. (ie. criminal, illegal, wrongful, incorrect, bad, etc) = illegal immigrants or illegal aliens, aka CRIMINALS!

see how that works?

LOL owned

 

[Steeplerot]

I know plenty, I know for one you have totally flip flopped on your stance, when you fought with me tooth and nail against what you are posting now for a few weeks, good to see you are making progress and seeing reality finally, congrats for you for showing you can use your head to be human being.

Now work on the war part and you are on your way to being a rational american.

 

[alphatarget1]

Wow, Mexico is REALLY tolerant of illegal immigrants.

 

[Steeplerot]

Uhh, when was america mexico? We all know that place is a hole, their people come here to get away.

Really sad when americans use third world countries track record as an example to defend how crappy we have become.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I know plenty, I know for one you have totally flip flopped on your stance, when you fought with me tooth and nail against what you are posting now for a few weeks, good to see you are making progress and seeing reality finally, congrats for you for showing you can use your head to be human being.

Now work on the war part and you are on your way to being a rational american.

you're so full of sh*t... on day 2 of this issue I posted the same solution and hashed it out further with several other folks; we narrow it down to the points I just showed you. none of that matters though because you have failed to pay attention, and you've never once retracted all of your slanderous attacks on everyone here.

I (WE) are not racists, but that seems to be what you fall back on every single time we OWN you in debate.

g'day steeple, and I really hope you wake the hell up soon.

 

[Steeplerot]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
I know plenty, I know for one you have totally flip flopped on your stance, when you fought with me tooth and nail against what you are posting now for a few weeks, good to see you are making progress and seeing reality finally, congrats for you for showing you can use your head to be human being.

Now work on the war part and you are on your way to being a rational american.

you're so full of sh*t... on day 2 of this issue I posted the same solution and hased it out with several other folks to the points I just showed you. none of that matter though because you have failed to pay attention, and you've never once retracted all of your slanderous attacks on everyone here.

I (WE) are not racists, but that seems to be what you fall back on every single time we OWN you in debate.

g'day steeple, and I really hope you wake the hell up soon.

BS, you paid some lip sevice and went right back to ranting about them being criminals that should be deported when another anti-immigration wingnut came in and puffed on your e-peen. :roll: