Biker decides to brake check a car. WRONG THING TO DO!!!

[colonelciller]

the failure to get out of the passing lane when there was no traffic on the right.

fuck that

 

[gorcorps]

Except he wasn't driving 'slow' in the fast lane. He was passing cars on the right a good 20mph faster. It's not "fast as you can" or "as fast as the dude behind you" lane. It's 'fast lane' within the parameters of the posted limit, which the dude evidently was exceeding by a good amount.

I don't side with the biker by any means, but I also don't care for this mindset. If I am going faster than you then you better get the fuck out of the fast lane if you can. You do not get to punish me for how fast I'm going, that's for the police to do. If I want to tempt fate with that kind of speed, then that's my issue and I'll pay for it. If there are no cars you're currently passing you do not belong in the left lane... Period.

 

[Jeeebus]

So...how fast was the car going?

Relative to the biker with the brakes on? MUCH faster.

 

[colonelciller]

Get out of the left lane.

or as a human with a functioning brain, the motor cycle could have used the available right land to pass (as he did with zero problems), and then continue onwards at his chosen higher speed.

slamming his brakes in front of a car like an XYY Road-raging-infant got him exactly what he deserved. if he died the roads will be safer for it

 

[colonelciller]

I don't side with the biker by any means, but I also don't care for this mindset. If I am going faster than you then you better get the fuck out of the fast lane if you can. You do not get to punish me for how fast I'm going, that's for the police to do. If I want to tempt fate with that kind of speed, then that's my issue and I'll pay for it. If there are no cars you're currently passing you do not belong in the left lane... Period.

are you a moron who does not know how to pass on the right?
are you some kind of royalty to whom all must bow?

use your brain, pass on the right if the car in front chooses to remain inthe fast lane... or road rage like an infant and potentially cause an accident like an immature teenage idiot, the choice is yours

 

[_Rick_]

In most civilized nations (with left-hand side steering) passing on the right is quite dangerous, because it's where people in the left lane do not expect a vehicle to be, unless they've just overtaken one. Plus it's the side with worse visibility for the driver.

And as for gorcorps and his retarded mindset: It's not just you who will pay for it, that's why there is a speed limit. Roads are a common good, and so it's up to everyone to enforce that the commonly agreed upon rules for the safety and liberty of everyone are maintained.

 

[colonelciller]

In most civilized nations (with left-hand side steering) passing on the right is quite dangerous, because it's where people in the left lane do not expect a vehicle to be, unless they've just overtaken one. Plus it's the side with worse visibility for the driver.

And as for gorcorps and his retarded mindset: It's not just you who will pay for it, that's why there is a speed limit. Roads are a common good, and so it's up to everyone to enforce that the commonly agreed upon rules for the safety and liberty of everyone are maintained.

or as a mature civilized adult you can carefully assess the situation, pass on the right and be on with your life. tailgating every person who chooses not to travel at ludicrous speed is both dangerous and immature

 

[waggy]

are you a moron who does not know how to pass on the right?
are you some kind of royalty to whom all must bow?

use your brain, pass on the right if the car in front chooses to remain inthe fast lane... or road rage like an infant and potentially cause an accident like an immature teenage idiot, the choice is yours

yeah..i'm going to go ahead and call you a fucking idiot.

 

[Anubis]

are you a moron who does not know how to pass on the right?
are you some kind of royalty to whom all must bow?

use your brain, pass on the right if the car in front chooses to remain inthe fast lane... or road rage like an infant and potentially cause an accident like an immature teenage idiot, the choice is yours

i actually 100% agree with this post

i pass on the right and dont think anything of it if someone is going slow in the left lane and not getting over, i simply go around them and carry on.

the only time its an issue is if you cant pass on the right because of traffic and someone is holding everyone back. but then there is nothing you can do anyway short of ramming them off the road

 

[PingSpike]

And, if you want more idiocy from Florida, in 2005, Jeb Bush vetoed the law reserving the left lane for passing, saying that drivers blocking the left lane are "cautious and careful."

Nothing surprises me about Florida laws.

 

[waggy]

i actually 100% agree with this post

i pass on the right and dont think anything of it if someone is going slow in the left lane and not getting over, i simply go around them and carry on.

the only time its an issue is if you cant pass on the right because of traffic and someone is holding everyone back. but then there is nothing you can do anyway short of ramming them off the road

oh yeah you should stay left but to pass right is no big deal.

his post though itself is idiotic.

 

[yh125d]

Let's get some opinions on what led to me getting brake checked yesterday

Driving in the middle of 3 lanes, ~70 in a 65, no cars around, except a Lexus RX350 tailgating me, 2 car lengths max, for about 3 miles solid. After a bit, there are some signs that right lane merges into the middle lane, making me then in the right lane. Between the signs before the lane starts to merge, this broad starts to pass on the right. I keep my cruise on, don't do anything to help her, and she has to kinda get on the shoulder a bit to finish passing (not all the way, maybe 1/2 out on the end of the merge lane, it's a good shoulder anyways) then gets about 2-3 lengths past me then slows back down.

At this point, I actually have to knock my cruise down a couple notches, as she's now going slower than when she was tailgating me, so now I'm basically tailgating her. After about 1/4 mile, she brake checks me. Just a bit, nothing major. I back off a couple more lengths, and she exits after about a mile


I think it's pretty clear she was an asshole, by tailgating on a wide open highway, passing on the right with a completely open left lane, doing so AFTER signs that the right lane is merging very soon, and slowing down after passing. But was I?

 

[soulcougher73]

Lol too bad he didn't die, would set a better precedent for other douche riders.

 

[colonelciller]

oh yeah you should stay left but to pass right is no big deal.

his post though itself is idiotic.

passing to the right is no big deal, is not difficult and can be done safely.
perhaps you need some more road training?

 

[waggy]

passing to the right is no big deal, is not difficult and can be done safely.
perhaps you need some more road training?

/facepalm


so what returning member are you btw?

 

[soulcougher73]

I don't side with the biker by any means, but I also don't care for this mindset. If I am going faster than you then you better get the fuck out of the fast lane if you can. You do not get to punish me for how fast I'm going, that's for the police to do. If I want to tempt fate with that kind of speed, then that's my issue and I'll pay for it. If there are no cars you're currently passing you do not belong in the left lane... Period.

You do realize you tempting fate may involve other innocent people right? Go around if someone is going to slow and be on your way regardless of the lane.

 

[ensign_lee]

Biker shouldn't have provoked, but that doesn't excuse what happens after.

Driver is clearly an asshole. And he should get the F out of the left lane if he's not passing anyone. And on top of it all he checks on his own car first before the biker.

Kudos to the trucks in the opposite lane who stopped after seeing what happened.

 

[sci guy]

I bet the biker did not learn his lesson.

 

[W.C. Nimoy]

Except he wasn't driving 'slow' in the fast lane. He was passing cars on the right a good 20mph faster. It's not "fast as you can" or "as fast as the dude behind you" lane. It's 'fast lane' within the parameters of the posted limit, which the dude evidently was exceeding by a good amount.

I don't side with the biker by any means, but I also don't care for this mindset. If I am going faster than you then you better get the fuck out of the fast lane if you can. You do not get to punish me for how fast I'm going, that's for the police to do. If I want to tempt fate with that kind of speed, then that's my issue and I'll pay for it. If there are no cars you're currently passing you do not belong in the left lane... Period.

I don't fully agree with tcsenter, as it's not defined by the speed limit, but he's right in that it's not the "yield to the fastest, no matter what, period" etc. gororps is right in that you shouldn't punish those behind you for going faster than you, & especially don't try to enforce anyone else's speed, make them pass on the right when you can get over, but tcsenter is right in that if the driver in the fast lane is going faster than the immediate traffic to his right, he is not obliged to get over, & slow down himself just so that the person in the fast lane doesn't have to slow down. (I know you said "not immediately passing", but it can even be upcoming cars that would slow you down imo).

If no one's over there, in the right lane, and won't force you to slow down either, then yeah etiquette dictates you pull over.

 

[waggy]

I bet the biker did not learn his lesson.

i disagree. i bet he did.

he not only lost his bike (and i'm betting the lawsuit and insurance claim) but in pain for a while.

i suspect eh won't be brake checking anyone else while on a bike.

 

[bignateyk]

I'm all for "get the hell out of the fast lane if you aren't passing", but there was nobody in the right lane at all, so it's not like the biker had to go through much effort to pass the guy on the right.

The problem with passing on the right is when there are cars that you have to weave in and out of to get around the guy in the left lane.

 

[destrekor]

yeah, he's totally fscking with the car from the get go, regardless of passing. . . . biker did a FULL body turn around to look at the driver....good indication he's fscking with you! i hope he's okay but he totally deserved to get hit based on the evidence of the cam.

In this case, the biker got what he deserved.

I've seen a similar event and I totally approved of the biker's actions and worried momentarily for his safety:

It was a decent amount of traffic, and we were actually traveling together (similar speeds, passing the same people) for a fair while. Eventually it seemed he wanted to go faster than me, and I saw a gap to move right after passing a car or two so I did. He passes me, and a few cars up, some car moving slower than all of us gets in the left lane to pass someone in her lane. She basically completely cuts off the biker. As in, if it were a car, braking time probably wouldn't have been sufficient to prevent hitting her.
After she passes, he flies past her and then gets into her right lane, brake checks pretty damn hard (she brakes too), he completely turns around and flips her off.

I was laughing the whole time and I caught up with him during that moment and gave him a head nod and smile... don't know if he saw, was probably pretty shake up with nerves.
Bikers, regardless of how they are driving, I give as much road respect to as possible. It's not really possible for them to sneak into my blindspot, as I'm looking out especially for those kinds of instances. I give them as much room as possible, don't ride close to them, and really make sure they have a chance to see all signals I have to give.

 

[Genx87]

Seems like the car in the left lane was moving pretty quickly. I dont care if he could had been couteous and moved to the right lane. It didnt appear he was going slow at all. And that biker is a god damned idiot and deserved that crash.

 

[Exterous]

For those that are saying its fine to drive in the generally viewed as 'fast lane' - have you driven somewhere where people use common courtesy and respect that? Its amazing how much smoother the flow of traffic is. It may not be the law (although it might be) but its the courteous thing to do and I saw many places where he could have gotten over

Asshole vs. asshole

Agreed. If only a small nuclear explosion had taken both out...

passing to the right is no big deal, is not difficult and can be done safely.
perhaps you need some more road training?

Thats right - its not like it could be against the law someplaces or anything!

http://www.lawserver.com/law/state/connecticut/ct-laws/connecticut_statutes_14-233

 

[Exterous]

Seems like the car in the left lane was moving pretty quickly. I dont care if he could had been couteous and moved to the right lane. It didnt appear he was going slow at all. And that biker is a god damned idiot and deserved that crash.

Depending on the State his speed doesn't matter if he was inhibiting someone wanting to go faster. Some laws are ambiguously worded as 'impeding the flow of traffic' or 'yield to faster traffic'. The Virginia State Police says this still holds true if the person is speeding:

Tyler said that applies even if the vehicle trying to pass is speeding, following too closely or operating in any other reckless manner.

"Leave it up to police officers to deal with any violations they might be committing. We'll handle that," he said. "But the law still requires you to move to the right and let them pass."

http://www.fredericksburg.com/News/FLS/2006/022006/02092006/166829/index_html?page=2