Bill Clinton met with AG Loretta Lynch privately in Phoenix

[Hayabusa Rider]

Thanks, it looks like it needs to have been taken AND there needs to be knowledge that it was THEN they didn't report it. Some would argue that the transfer of classified material to her bathroom server was the "legally removed" aspect of this. Anybody who was aware of the server could be in trouble for this who sent her information in regards to the "national defense" through it.

That's answered in the law. Look immediately before (2). You'll see "or". If the law was contingent on both, then "and" would have been there.

In any event "no big deal" isn't true, because not treating restricted information appropriately can lead to dire circumstances. Again we're talking about a SoS, not some budget line item in a public construction project.

The legality? As I've been saying all along it depends on what's happened in fact. There have been reports of hacking, but anyone can say anything. There needs to be credible evidence or punishment would be immoral.

I hope we'll see.

 

[alcoholbob]

Mayberry Machiavellis aren't reasonable people so that pretty much shoots the whole thing right in the ass. For them, Clintons & all Democrats are always guilty until found innocent only if they can prove a negative.

Gotta love the use of the word "surreptitious" wrt something done right out in the open, too.

The "appearance of impropriety" stems from their attitudes rather than from reason.

If it was done in the open as you say the press at the tarmac that were breaking the story wouldn't have been barred from taking pictures or recording.

 

[LegendKiller]

If it was done in the open as you say the press at the tarmac that were breaking the story wouldn't have been barred from taking pictures or recording.

But that just adds to the openness. Most transparent presidency ever!

 

[Moonbeam]

Do you have any actual evidence to the contrary?

If not, all the accusations need to be framed properly as scurrilous speculation.

No the scurrilous speculations need to be prevented by the absence of bad optics.

 

[Jhhnn]

Here is what is hilarious. We need to have proof that he might have been trying to derail an investigation. If nobody can investigate them how can we ever get proof?

I really hope she gets indicted, if only to see you guys sputtering and spluttering and stammering and grasping for justifications on why this corrupt hag deserves to be president, because vagina.

You need no proof to speculate which is all you're doing.

It's a simple choice- a simple mistake vs implausible conspiracy theory. The first requires no explanation. The second requires jumping to conclusions unsupported by anything other than suspicion.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

If it was done in the open as you say the press at the tarmac...

There were press at the tarmac...

 

[Jhhnn]

No the scurrilous speculations need to be prevented by the absence of bad optics.

Yeh, but the bullshit smeared goggles make a real fashion statement on the right wing. Stupid fucking attitudes- don't leave home without them. I mean, everybody they know is wearing them.

 

[Artdeco]

There were press at the tarmac...

One reporter was tipped off, reportedly by Lynch's staff.... That ain't "press"

 

[LegendKiller]

You need no proof to speculate which is all you're doing.

It's a simple choice- a simple mistake vs implausible conspiracy theory. The first requires no explanation. The second requires jumping to conclusions unsupported by anything other than suspicion.

A mistake? Lol, this is a guy that was president after raising up through the political ranks and now running a pay for play scheme. He doesn't make mistakes. This was a blatantly obvious move, to what ends? Not sure yet.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

One reporter was tipped off, reportedly by Lynch's staff....

A reporter was tipped off by Lynch's staff...

 

[Artdeco]

A mistake? Lol, this is a guy that was president after raising up through the political ranks and now running a pay for play scheme. He doesn't make mistakes. This was a blatantly obvious move, to what ends? Not sure yet.

Yeah, unless he has some master plan, I wonder if he's losing it. He hasn't kept his cool with people in public well.

 

[LegendKiller]

Yeah, unless he has some master plan, I wonder if he's losing it. He hasn't kept his cool with people in public well.

The plan is likely to intimidate.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Nobody gets sharper with age. And living out of (as) intense scrutiny has made Bill a bit less vigilant I'm sure. But this is one big, fat juicy nothingburger.

 

[Artdeco]

Nobody gets sharper with age. And living out of (as) intense scrutiny has made Bill a bit less vigilant I'm sure. But this is one big, fat juicy nothingburger.

I dunno, he looks like hell... Damn, he's only 69

 

[LegendKiller]

Nobody gets sharper with age. And living out of (as) intense scrutiny has made Bill a bit less vigilant I'm sure. But this is one big, fat juicy nothingburger.

Yeah, it's nothing when the subject of the investigation, and the potential future boss of the head investigator, meets that investigator 2 days before she pushes out email disclosures 2 years and rules on charges.

This is banana republic shit.

 

[LegendKiller]

I dunno, he looks like hell... Damn, he's only 69

Slaying 1000 kitties puts a lot of miles on the engine.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

Yeah, it's nothing when the subject of the investigation, and the potential future boss of the head investigator, meets that investigator 2 days before she pushes out email disclosures 2 years and rules on charges.

This is banana republic shit.

Bill Clinton basically launched Lynch onto her path to the AG. If there is a fix in it didn't happen during an impromptu social visit as the investigation is winding down.

 

[Jhhnn]

A mistake? Lol, this is a guy that was president after raising up through the political ranks and now running a pay for play scheme. He doesn't make mistakes. This was a blatantly obvious move, to what ends? Not sure yet.

Which explains how he was the only President since Andrew Johnson who was impeached but not convicted. Bill obviously makes mistakes.

 

[Artdeco]

Slaying 1000 kitties puts a lot of miles on the engine.

Hillary's 68 and having health issues already, the stress of POTUS is going to age her pretty rapidly...

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

Bill Clinton basically launched Lynch onto her path to the AG. If there is a fix in it didn't happen during an impromptu social visit as the investigation is winding down.

I think your are missing a larger point that Lynch has quite openly admitted. Harm to her department's credibility is not determined by a deal which we could not know about if it happened, but the appearance of impartiality. Whether or not he launched her career is immaterial as well. Clinton visited at a time when it would have created an appearance of some skulduggery, threatening the investigation and any trust she might have.

She got it. I'm not sure why people are arguing against her.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Hillary's 68 and having health issues already, the stress of POTUS is going to age her pretty rapidly...

Trump is no youngster ether and I've predicted that no matter who wins the White House this go round they are going to be a 1 term president.


Brian

 

[Jhhnn]

I think your are missing a larger point that Lynch has quite openly admitted. Harm to her department's credibility is not determined by a deal which we could not know about if it happened, but the appearance of impartiality. Whether or not he launched her career is immaterial as well. Clinton visited at a time when it would have created an appearance of some skulduggery, threatening the investigation and any trust she might have.

She got it. I'm not sure why people are arguing against her.

She claims a simple & regrettable lapse in judgment. There's no evidence it was anything more than that.

 

[Gonad the Barbarian]

I think your are missing a larger point that Lynch has quite openly admitted. Harm to her department's credibility is not determined by a deal which we could not know about if it happened, but the appearance of impartiality. Whether or not he launched her career is immaterial as well. Clinton visited at a time when it would have created an appearance of some skulduggery, threatening the investigation and any trust she might have.

She got it. I'm not sure why people are arguing against her.

In an absolute sense she's not wrong. But in relative sense where, say, a Supreme Court justice refusing to recuse himself from a case where his spouse is actively involved in one side vs. the other this same media would barely be making a peep over it. And that's just one of about a million examples. But since this is a Clinton it's a scandal.

 

[Hayabusa Rider]

In an absolute sense she's not wrong. But in relative sense where, say, a Supreme Court justice refusing to recuse himself from a case where his spouse is actively involved in one side vs. the other this same media would barely be making a peep over it. And that's just one of about a million examples. But since this is a Clinton it's a scandal.

It is a Clinton, but it's also a powerful friend with great influence visiting at a crucial time. If Trump had done the same he should damn well have the same treatment. Lynch for her part is no fool. Perhaps it was bad judgement and I'll go with that since I have no factual basis for malicious intent. What it did however was force her out of participation. I'm not saying that would have been the case otherwise as I think it's very wise for her to pass this to Comey. By doing so whatever conversation she had with Bill is moot since the ball is in someone else's court. What really happened? Lord knows, but I have no good reason to suspect her in collusion. Sometimes very smart people do dumb crap. I suspect that was the case here.

 

[Moonbeam]

She claims a simple & regrettable lapse in judgment. There's no evidence it was anything more than that.

How could there be. The meeting was private. Just imagine somebody saying there is no evidence it was anything but evil. You are just one edge of a two edged sword brain dead to the inevitability of the other edge, absolutely certain that only your edge has any right to exist. You do not know.